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Partial Service History 2017 A4

  • 25-09-2021 7:48am
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭ chris_ie


    Looking at a 172 Audi A4. Inside the car is in good nick. Test driven a few times and no majors issues. Decent enough price. It’s from a local car dealer/garage. UK reg but they’re putting in on Irish plates and laying VRT and Nox.

    On the site they had it up as full service history. When I asked for the book they could only get the recent service, done at 60k December last year. Only 7-8k miles done since that service. Usual service notes, oil change, brake pads etc.

    The full service history mentioned on the site seems to be a copy/paste error. They use the same sort of template for all cars and remove/edits parts from what I see.

    I’d made an offer but said I wanted the full service history which they are trying to get at the minute. I’ve asked for an extended warranty if not. They upped the warranty to 6 months (usually they do 3 months).

    They have a decent reputation here and have been around for a long time. Heard no bad stories about them as yet.

    Am I being too cautious with regards the FSH?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,943 ✭✭✭✭ Toyotafanboi


    Wouldn't be wild about anything you've said tbh.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭ chris_ie




  • Registered Users Posts: 12,943 ✭✭✭✭ Toyotafanboi


    Yeah.


    Look a 2017 A4 never came with a physical service book, thr records are online only. You're only chance would be to find out which UK dealer originally supplied the car, contact them and see do they have record of the first service. If they dont i wouldn't bother with the car.


    If there is 60k kms on it, it should have had a minimum of 2 services by now, if you meant 60k miles then it should have had 3 services.


    IMO 6 months is a paltry warranty on a car like that, even the thought of someone thinking they can get away with offering 3 months warranty on what i assume is a €20-25k car is a joke and screams a bit of a piss take, particularly when the car is hot off the boat and has no paperwork behind it.


    They are a nice car but not without some risk attached, anyone who isn't putting a decent warranty on something like that i would run a mile from tbh unless you are prepared you may have to sink a couple of €k into it at any random point.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 33,765 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Seth Brundle


    If they don't have the full service history now, it's unlikely that they will ever have it. Also, I doubt that it was a copy/paste error.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭ chris_ie


    Cheers lads. Yeah I asked them to bump the warranty to 12 months if they didn’t get the full service history and I’d think about it. They said they’d only do 6 but I pointed out they do 12 if you pay €200 extra. They said they’d do that if paid but I said I wouldn’t, I’d want it as part of the offer.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭ chris_ie


    Ya reckon 12 month warranty with just the record of a single service still too risky? (I think I know the answer..)



  • Registered Users Posts: 50,125 ✭✭✭✭ bazz26


    Get the UK reg and ring Audi UK and see if the partial history conforms to what they have on record. Also as the car is 5 years old it should have been through the MOT a few times, put the UK reg in here: https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/. Join the dots from there. I'd also do your own history check on the car and see if there is any record of it being Cat S or N insurance write off in the UK.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,943 ✭✭✭✭ Toyotafanboi


    Agreed, cowboys Ted.


    Single service over 60k would put me off, no matter what warranty.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭ chris_ie


    Would Audi UK just give out the service history if I rang with registration? I didn’t think they would..



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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,943 ✭✭✭✭ Toyotafanboi


    They wont give you a copy of it, but you can ask the question, do they have a history and they can confirm yes or no and the mileages, no issue with that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭ chris_ie


    Cheers. Got through to them. They gave me the number of the selling garage. Said they were getting stricter about the service history or something. Couldn’t get through to them so it’ll be Monday.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,943 ✭✭✭✭ Toyotafanboi


    If you want to pm me a chassis number I can check it for you.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭ Stallingrad


    So many A4's out there why risk anything with a question mark over it? A better one will be along shortly.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭ chris_ie


    I’m close to ruling this one out. I’ve been looking for a brave while!! Not many up here with spec, tech and price range I’m after. Unless I order online from down the country and don’t test drive, which I don’t fancy doin.



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,864 ✭✭✭✭ mickdw


    You can bet that car is not legit.

    A UK Diesel A4 4 year old with no history, showing small mileage and well priced.

    It smells bad from here and I've not even seen a picture of it.

    Add in the short warranty and its a certainty.

    Can you give us the reg?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭ chris_ie


    Is 68k miles for a 4 year old car low? Isn’t it above average?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,739 ✭✭✭ Buddy Bubs


    Probably about normal for something like an a4 diesel. Not low or high really. I've a 7 year old a6 with just under that but that's waaaay below average for other 7 year olds for sale. Bottom 10% or so. On a 4 year old I'd expect it to be in around the median



  • Registered Users Posts: 50,125 ✭✭✭✭ bazz26


    68k miles is about average for a 4 year old diesel car. Mine is the same age and only has 55k miles done.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,507 ✭✭✭ Old diesel


    If its a known to be excellent dealer and the car is right then buying from down the country is fine imo.

    My brother needed a new car in early stages of Covid.

    Bought over the phone from a main dealer in Kildare based on seeing it online (my brother is in Co Cork).

    Got delivered by truck because of Covid.

    An excellent car from a good dealer from far away is better then an iffy car from a not great dealer locally.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭ chris_ie


    Decided against that car. Theres an SLine up here, lovely car but when I test drove I thought it was pretty low getting in and out. Got on to them again and they've said its got the standard suspension, not sports. I'll give that another test drive but don't think it was simply the seat height. Cheers for the advice on here lads.



  • Registered Users Posts: 50,125 ✭✭✭✭ bazz26


    The A4 is not a very low down car even with S Line suspension. The S Line suspension just drops the standard car down a few mm but it's not like it's low enough where you have to crawl into the car unless the previous owner modified it. What are you comparing it to?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭ chris_ie


    Comparing it against the A4 we were looking at with regards to this post. Both myself and my wife noticed it when getting in and out of the SLine. Didn't notice the same for the other A4.

    It was the first A4 I test drove and we're currently in a Qashqai, so maybe I'm more used to the lower cars now from a few test drives 😄

    Doesn't look that low :

    Edit: Think that cars gone now too 😫

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  • Registered Users Posts: 194 ✭✭ Zylias


    I own a 14 A4 and I wouldn't go near one without an extensive service history they can be extremely costly to fix issues on. Most people who are legit and own cars like these have no issues keeping service records. I get all the big services done at main dealer along with things like timing belt and then the oil and filter maintenance services done at a reliable independent mechanic.

    If someone is selling a premium vehicle for premium money they need to have premium history. I've heard and read too many horror stories of guys buying these types of cars only to hear a rattle or feel something is off and it turns out it's crashed or undeclared damages that have been patched up.


    Pay a bit more for something that checks out. Buy nice and not twice.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,739 ✭✭✭ Buddy Bubs


    My SUV driving friends say my A6 is really low and awkward to get into. Don't find that myself but maybe just what you're used to.



  • Registered Users Posts: 50,125 ✭✭✭✭ bazz26


    I think there lies your problem, your just too accustom to sitting in a crossover with an elevated seating position. It's like being used to driving small cars and suddenly a bigger car feels like your on the Titanic.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭ chris_ie


    Whats your opinions on a max mileage for a 4 year old Audi (assuming full service history etc)?



  • Registered Users Posts: 194 ✭✭ Zylias


    I wouldn't really worry too much about the mileage if your planning on keeping it for a few years or your doing massive mileage yourself


    I'd say around 130k km would be fair for a car of that age. A good amount of them would be leased cars I imagine going on long motorway journeys



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭ chris_ie


    Yeah kinda the range I was looking at. I won't be doing massive miles, probably just average or slightly under. If any of you know any highly recommended dealers selling Audis, fire them at me 😉



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  • Registered Users Posts: 50,125 ✭✭✭✭ bazz26


    Why not consider a petrol A4 then?



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