C.E. Scheme - can you be penalised for not taking up a job offer?

I am me123 · 15-08-2021 10:40am #1

Are C.E. scheme participants treated the same as other social welfare recipients e.g. JSA, JSB, etc. when it comes to looking for full time paid employment?

Do C.E. scheme participants face penalties for not taking up an offer of full time paid employment?

Hypothetical question.

Thanks in advance.

wiz569 · 15-08-2021 10:49am

Typically if doing a CE scheme you will not be engaging with Intreo/Social welfare dept.

I am me123 · 15-08-2021 10:52am

Would a C.E. participant be penalised for not accepting a job offer of full time paid employment ( if offered this while on a C.E. scheme contract) ?

ari101 · 15-08-2021 4:32pm

Citizens Advice: "If you have the opportunity of full-time work, you can take one period of temporary unpaid leave with your sponsor’s agreement for up to 26 weeks. If the work opportunity continues beyond 26 weeks, you must leave the CE scheme."

This infers there may be some flex on not taking jobs although it is not stated that way directly. I assume if you are working toward a qualification, leaving mid scheme is not always in your best interest in the longer term... In any case, how will they know you don't take an offer of full time employment if you don't tell them, unless you live somewhere small/very interconnected local community etc...

Mrs OBumble · 15-08-2021 5:23pm

Not by welfare.

You would be penalised in that you would continue to only get the dole plus travel allowance, vs a full time wage. Surely its a no-brainer to take the job.

Gatling · 15-08-2021 5:26pm

And if and when you finish your scheme if you don't have secure employment it's back to jobseekers

I am me123 · 15-08-2021 8:30pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117758356#Comment_117758356

Basically if your hypothetical job offer contract is a short term temporary contract - you can take up this position and return to C.E. after the contract ends.

But

If the hypothetical job contract is a long term full time job, you must leave the C.E. scheme altogether and take up this employment.

Would this be right?

16-08-2021 8:47am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117759392#Comment_117759392

No. You take a break from the CE Scheme. If the new job works out, you leave the CE Scheme after 6 months. If the job ends or doesn’t work out for some reason, then you’re back on the CE Scheme. Don’t overthink it. Give the job a go. You’ve got nothing to lose and everything to gain. Good Luck.

C.E. Scheme - can you be penalised for not taking up a job offer?

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