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When will they stop announcing case numbers daily?

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  • 08-08-2021 1:33pm
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    I just don't see why daily case numbers are still a thing 20 months on, especially now with 75% of the population vaccinated.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 932 ✭✭✭darconio


    And especially considering that you can be positive even if vaccinated



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,147 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Most likely when/if the link between cases and hospitalisations is severed.

    They're still a very valuable piece of information



  • Registered Users Posts: 583 ✭✭✭crooked cockney villain


    Amazing that NPHET are still peddling the lie that they can't provide daily death figures due to the HSE hack.


    They won't provide them because day after day figures of "1482 cases, no deaths, 1680 cases, no deaths, 1720 cases, no deaths, 1632 cases, one death, 1796 cases, no deaths" doesn't quite keep the population in fear the way they would like it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    And this "there is x amount in hospital with Covid" bullshit needs to stop. If I'm in there with a broken leg and have Covid I shouldn't be added to those no's. Tell us how many are in due to Covid. And get rid of these daily numbers as op said. Do it weekly.



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    The data will be on the hub anyway so someone will report it. Interesting now how little alarm nearly 2K daily cases are causing.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 583 ✭✭✭crooked cockney villain


    Probably because in a fully vaccinated society Covid is less dangerous than the winter flu. Imagine we reported flu numbers every December.



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    That data is actually recorded by the HSPC anyway and we occasionally hear commentary about it, usually in the context of encouraging people to get a flu' shot. One problem with flu levels is the very low takeup of flu' shots by HCWs.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Why aren't deaths announced anymore? Hard/impossible to find them, are they really low? I assume they are.

    I couldn't care less about the cases tbh, most people I know at this stage have stopped following the whole thing and are essentially back to normal, me included.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,258 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Just give us the information that is available and we can process it ourselves.

    Some may chose to ignore it if they like.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,097 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Either give us all the information or none of it, stop cherrypicking whatever can be used best to stoke the fear meter.

    How many deaths lads, stop hiding behind a **** hack from months ago.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 42 nonsheep7


    The overzealousness of certain sections of the media of the daily reporting of 'cases' set alarm bells ringing for many people (those that can think for themselves) a long time ago.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭basill


    Isn't it ironic that at the start of the pandemic you couldn't get tested for love nor money. Many of the tests taken were having to be sent overseas at considerable cost. It was almost like there was an agenda to under report. Roll on 18 months and the gravy train has come full circle. Test test test, even pop up mobile testing in "hot spots". Incident rates, case numbers versus vaccinated/non vaccinated/underlying conditions are all absent due to the nasty Russian hackers. Just headline numbers that of course will be high if you continue to ramp up the testing. Scaremongering about Delta and they have started mentioning Echo and whatever other variant not even dreamed up yet.

    And the daily hospital figures have to take the cake. No clarification that the 20 odd in ICU might well be positive with Covid but also just happened to be in hospital for someit else like a heart attack etc.

    18 months on and if they were so worried about Covid bringing the hospital system to its knees what exactly has been done about it? Any hospitals privatised? New consultants? Emergency departments? What about all those doctors and nurses that came home to save the day or the retired medics willing to stump up? And how are the old folks homes doing? Has the HSE taken over any to ensure that any Covid outbreaks don't kill off all of the residents, erm nope.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭Bit cynical


    Deaths are still available. Deaths with the virus are very low at the moment and Ireland is below the EU average right now.

    For historical context,

    Deaths with the virus are historically very low both in comparison to other EU countries and past waves in Ireland.



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,290 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    We are now getting them weekly. TBH at the level they are currently at (1 or 2 per day), I think that's adequate at present



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,290 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Most countries continue to provide daily information as evidenced by Worldometers. I presume the WHO also require regular updates until they determine the pandemic stage is over. While we are in the hundreds or indeed thousands of new infections daily I think we will continue to see those figures produced daily. If and when it drops to the tens I would imagine they may start producing updates once or twice a week



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Time for boycotting of testing for those fully jabbed .pointless and just being used as a weapon of fear.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,018 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    And if they provide the death numbers, it'll be "Oh, they were old, they were one of the large proportion of the population who had an underlying illness, they were an anomaly".. Ditto the hospital and ICU cases. Quite a bit of info seems to be required before they actually count in the eyes of some.. And yet, a premises wanting to know if you might be bringing in an infectious disease is invasive and refusal is an infringement upon your civil liberties..



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭basill


    Front page of todays Irish Times...."Officials state that one of the reasons for the increase in the case numbers is increased testing". Unfortunately the great unwashed fail to grasp basic maths and understand this principle so believe the fodder they are being fed. Also in same paper over 80% of those in hospital with covid are UNvaccinated. So 80% of a very small number and proportion of the population in anycase. No details given of age ranges but you would have to assume given the science we understand to date that the hospitalised cases are highly unlikely to be those in the younger cohorts. That leads you to the conclusion that the ones in hospital are likely to be either the anti vaxxers, or the old/vulnerable who for whatever medical reason were unable to get jabbed up until now.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,517 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997



    if its "fodder" how come you're able to get information from it, and thus "believe" it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,517 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997



    What's ironic about something with low availability at the start, and lots when it gets going.

    They did a load of stuff. Its well documented.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,457 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Testing does not increase the number of cases, it merely provides a more accurate measurement of the number of cases.

    And the old and vulnerable who could not get jabbed are put at risk by the large number of cases.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,517 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    More testing doesn't increase the numbers. But it allows us to see more of them. Which is worth spelling out on this thread...



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,956 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    We really shouldn't be testing fully vaccinated adults at this stage. There is 200 people in hospital out of 5m people, this thing is so over.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,032 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Don't be silly. People on this thread - unlike "the great unwashed" as mentioned above - know that the people really responsible for the pandemic are those evil people who invented the test to detect it.

    If we didn't have a test to detect it then it never would have happened


    (apparently)



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,517 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,457 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    The day the HSE stop reporting numbers, the same people will be going bananas that the HSE is keeping people in the dark, hiding data, only telling the people what THEY want us to hear and the sheeple didn't even notice.

    Is it not exhausting being outraged about everything?



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    Another missing piece of information, besides the deaths is the turnover in hospitals.

    eg 200 in hospital today. 100 in 95 out since yesterday. 20 people in hospital over 3 days. 5 in hospital over 7 days.

    That kind of stat. But they have their reasons for not giving them out.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,701 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Well they give the figures for discharges daily, you can see here https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/pages/hospitals-icu--testing

    So that's 26 in, 9 out over the past 24hrs.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,651 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The in and out has been available for months, HSE outage excepted, on the tracker app.

    The headline figure will stop being reported by the media when it stops being newsworthy. That would either be a prolonged period of relatively low figures and no serious hospitalisation / death spikes, or it reaching and remaining at zero which we know now is very unlikely to occur.

    The HSE can't stop reporting or people will claim it's a cover-up. The media won't stop reporting til the articles stop getting clicks



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