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NCT miss or Garage rip off.

  • 03-08-2021 12:59pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 389 ✭✭ Vaccinated30


    My car passed NCT in March, advisory on tyres due to age, which were replaced. Car has drove less than 200kms since. I put it in for a service in a well known autoservice place as there hadn't been one done in 3 years. I told them there was a small rattle and I think the heat shield needs to be fixed Anyway they rang me to say they couldn't find any rattle under the car but the 2 front lower ball joints are burst and leaking grease and will cost 200e to repair and 65 to align the car. Now I can't believe the NCT would miss 2 ball joints, one maybe but 2, no way!

    They also had a list of things like bulbs/blades/tyres (tyres were only replaced last month to part worn good quality tyres! Far from bare!) And the total charge would now be 650 euros.

    I'd like to add I'm a bleach blonde female but I am not clueless when it comes to cars but not an expert either, however I feel like these shower are trying to rip me off!

    I rang a local garage that was recommended to me by a friend and he said it would be 120 to have them replaced and aligned but he can't believe the NCT missed this either and will check himself tomorrow.

    So would the NCT miss 2 ball joints or is someone chancing their arm.



Comments

  • Registered Users Posts: 389 ✭✭ Vaccinated30


    I only bought it last month! Hence why I got it in for a service, don't blame me



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,364 Mod ✭✭✭✭ magicbastarder


    i've heard stories of obvious things being missed at the NCT (e.g. a colleagues car passed with what should have been a dangerous fail on suspension), and also of garages trying to rip people off. just get a second opinion.

    a main dealer once quoted me €1600 to get my car through an NCT, and €400 more of work they recommended needed to be done, but not NCT specific; i spent €270 on the car elsewhere (there was an issue with the rear brakes i knew about) and the car got through the NCT.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,631 ✭✭✭ zilog_jones


    Regarding the ball joints, if you don't trust their verdict then you could just jack up the car, take off the wheels and inspect them yourself - or take it to another mechanic.

    Bulbs and wiper blades could be easily inspected and replaced by yourself, and you can get a tyre tread depth gauge for about a fiver.

    NCT is not infallible, and things can happen in four months.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 389 ✭✭ Vaccinated30


    Reading the report it just says lower ball joints have grease out, so perhaps it's just started recently. I will be getting a second opinion and cheaper repair tomorrow. Did the bulb when I got home, I actually had the bulbs here but never got round to it the weekend, and new wipers on the way from micks garage.

    I feel like the clutch is a bit high but they never mentioned anything about it so maybe not a worry for now.

    I will say when driving the car home it felt lovely and smooth to drive.



  • Registered Users Posts: 49,833 ✭✭✭✭ bazz26


    Does the place that serviced it and gave you the report happen to sell the likes of tyres/bulbs and wipers too? Some of these places are very eager to upsell these things so can be "proactive" about them needing replacing, if you catch my drift.



  • Registered Users Posts: 389 ✭✭ Vaccinated30


    Yes it does. This was my first thought. To be honest had they just said the ball joints I would have paid the 200euro to get it over with, but when they threw everything else in like 65e to align the car I thought no way, these are taking the **** and now it's saved me 80e for the joints and the new garage does alignment with the job so almost 150e saved.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,575 ✭✭✭ jmreire


    I'm sure that it will work out fine you. Balljoint's are serious though, but again, shop around and get the best price you can. How long remaining in the NCT? And what make of car? For the clutch, sit in the car, start the engine, put your foot on the brake and apply / pull the handbrake up to the max,select 1st gear and while the engine is ticking over, ( dont rev it up) let your foot off the clutch slowly. If the clutch is good, the engine will cut out, If its worn, it will slip..the engine will stay running, but the car will not move.The other items you mention, you seem to be doing fine sorting them out.



  • Registered Users Posts: 389 ✭✭ Vaccinated30


    Nct is not out untill March 22 and Tje car is an Avensis. Thank you for the clutch tip I will do that today!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,575 ✭✭✭ jmreire


    Generally, Toyotas are good reliable cars, but like all cars, they can have faults too, Google "common avensis faults" and you will see what I mean. In any case, it still has a long NCT. You will be fine, I'd say.



  • Registered Users Posts: 150 ✭✭ Gary Scrod


    Second hand tyres? Is that still a thing?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭ Miscreant


    They most certainly are. Plenty of places around still do them and there is nothing wrong with buying a part worn tyre as long as you know what you are getting. A decent part worn "named" brand tyre would still be better than a cheap plastic ditch finder.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭ Spook_ie


    Plus a million, car went into mechanic for leaky water pump and replace cambelt, paid the bill and took the car home hadn't even got home when a big thunk from nearside and a scraping sound when turning. Spring gone though it was fine when having the WP done!



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,575 ✭✭✭ jmreire


    Passenger side spring? No surprise there ( or Driver side either) but especially on secondary country roads the potholes breed at ferocious speed, and broken springs and damaged wheel rims and suspensions are far too common. And they can happen in a split second.



  • Registered Users Posts: 389 ✭✭ Vaccinated30


    The 2nd garage said the car is fine, ball joints are fine, rubbers are all fine.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,575 ✭✭✭ jmreire


    Thats the problem.....and unless either you or a friend have mechanical experience, you are pretty much at the mercy of unscrupulous dealers. Well, at least now you have found someone who is honest. Hang on to him.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,796 ✭✭✭ Isambard


    5 months since NCT, anything could happen in that time



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