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Boards.ie email address issue July 2021

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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 21,772 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Very honest of you @Shield.

    I wasn't aware of the email issue until today. I did see personal information on the now removed Activities page as it wasn't obvious it was public. I PMed one user to tell them and also one of the Boards employees so that it could be removed.

    The activities page was pointless, no one needs to know if someone moves up a level based on their post count, or if someone changes their avatar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,271 ✭✭✭✭Deja Boo


    @Leg End Reject If ^ that is the case, I wouldn't put it past google that the info was already seized upon and harvested ...Since google instantly harvests every open and available speck of data it can, then posts it openly (as they do with every post, image, avatar etc associated with our username). It would seem safest just to close accounts altogether.

    I do wish we had the option to delete pms, given such unforeseen breaches of privacy, but this site doesn't even give us that option (except to lol, "leave the conversation" which isnt the same - the data remains.)

    👉️ KEEP BOARDS ALIVE 👈️ there's a new donate option

    ….and check out Forum of Games



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,824 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    <snip>

    Found these in 5 seconds using google

    Post edited by Mickeroo on


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    Well, the option is clearly there to let others see it. It was in the old websit too. I've never seen people who enabled it for everyone to see but I never went looking on Google.

    Screenshot_20210802_214035.jpg

    However, if this option was enabled by default and their email addresses were made visible then that's a big problem. Mine was disabled by default.

    Post edited by Mickeroo on


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,897 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    It can seen by a simple Google search when I’m signed out. I’ll use an existing example. I should not be able to see this because it’s in a different browser that I never use for Boards, thus I’m not a “member”…

    @Boards.ie: Niamh and @Boards.ie: Mark and @Boards.ie: Odhran it looks like we have a data leak. I can see this SIGNED OUT!



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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 21,772 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    @Shield I don't know what terms you're using to search. Can you see my email? It's a burner and non-identifiable so not an issue for me, but is for anyone who's email contains their real name.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 846 ✭✭✭teachinggal123


    Oh dear oh dear.

    What an absolute fu3k up. Boards in big, big trouble here.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,514 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭noplacehere


    Hang on how do I know if this is possible? I set my profile to private as soon as I realised I needed to on the new side.


    as an aside wtf is going on with that image? It’s illegible



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,478 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    I just took 5 random users from here and can see the email address for all 5 from a simple Google search.

    Then I checked yours Leg End Reject an your email is not displayed.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 21,772 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Cheers!

    It looks like some users ticked the box mistakenly believing it would hide their email? Or a bug?



  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    Are you saying you can see email addresses on Google that are supposed to be hidden on their profiles? Or that email addresses that are visible on profiles come up on Google searches?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭noplacehere


    I think he’s saying the latter. I had to manually change my setting since the move to vanilla to make mine invisible. I understood from a thread I was reading I needed to but actually I wonder if most people even saw that thread



  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,605 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    The only profiles that have them visible are ones with the "make email visible...." box ticked far as I can see



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭-=al=-


    I think I may have unticked the private email box previously? I'm not sure, but was unticked as is.

    I also have a bigger problem in that I can't even make my profile private because of the equals symbol in my username. I get this error when I confirm the changes to my profile - "Usernames must be 3-20 characters and consist of letters, numbers, and underscores."

    Even if I wanted to tick/untick the box - which I do, I can't because the characters interfere with the system. Pretty big problem for some users.

    I'd be more than happy to have all my data wiped from this site and start fresh. It's my preference at this stage to restart my account. The goalposts have changed.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,298 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    This is an example of someone who is part of a community and a mod, a type of member who can get static often enough and yet here he is seeing a problem that could affect this community and those in it whether they see themselves as part of it or not, and pointing it out. Fair play.

    If this is a repeatable screwup and lord knows we've had enough with this changeover and the management behind it and any randomer can see people's email adresses with a simple google then WT actual F is going on?

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,664 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,897 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    “…other members…”

    I can see the email addresses when I’m signed out AND in a Google search. I will PM you the unredacted version so you can see what you’re working with.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,298 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I can confirm this; It's not a "mod thing" signed out or not I can see some member's email addresses. Well the ones I've looked at so far(three).

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,605 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Yes, I can see it in their profile that it's ticked.

    Being still able to see it logged out seems like a bug though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭sioda


    This is extremely serious tbh. This whole changeover has been an unmitigated failure.


    We as members and content creators have been given an insecure and still in many ways unusable site. Data moved to outside the EU without permission.Boards have been sold a pup imho.


    As someone who has been around here for years it's a huge kick in the arse to see a site built by users for users being so badly migrated.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,897 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    Given that it’s a bug that’s affecting our users’ privacy on a scale yet to be determined (more than 1), is there anything you can do as a site administrator that could frustrate the ability of bad actors to help themselves to the email addresses of our users?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,478 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    I'm not too sure about that Mikeroo. I have "Allow other members to see your email?" unticked from day one yet I can see my own email addy with a google search. It's not my real name so not that important, still not good though.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 8,424 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    If you log out of boards, can you still see it? I logged out and I can then still see other details of my profile but not my email.

    I have that box unticked from day one also.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 21,772 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,478 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,605 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    I unticked the box on the three profiles linked above, nothing else I can do. I don't know whether they ticked it themselves in the first place or not.


    Your one's not showing up for me when I Google search like the others is even when I'm logged in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    This was the same for me and the "display email" option on my profile was not ticked. However I have set my profile to private now.

    Regardless of how this has happened, why the hell was it even an option to display your email? Just not needed. I am trying to be supportive of Boards.ie during all of this as I think it is a great site. However, I am getting more and more frustrated with how it has all been handled.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,954 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Has there been any response from boards staff to any of this? Even privately?

    The total silence in response to these posts (even if they turn out to be false alarms, they're being made in good faith from what I can see) is deafening



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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 21,772 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject




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