So I see the pure evil serial killer Alcala died recently. Good

AMKC

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_Alcala

That evil bustard was aloud to live to long and really should have got the electric chair for what he done to his victims.

Zither two who should have got the electric chair is The Hilside Stranglers. They were pure evil too. Them bastards even electrocuted a poor young women and gased another poor young woman after first expiremanting on the poor woman. The raped and murdered two young girls two.

If you ask me justice can be far to lenient sometimes. Them bastards deserved to die more than once.

If I had of been there judge I can tell you they would have before eventually getting the electric chair.

So what are everyone else's thoughts on these or any other serial killers?

Jequ0n

My only strong opinion is that I am very glad that you do not have a say in the jurisdiction process. Or the reporting on anything for that matter.

martingriff

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058201223/so-i-see-the-pure-evil-serial-killer-alcala-died-recently-good

I disagree they should live with the freedoms taken away with a reminder of what they have done. The victims friends and family have to remember it forever so should the evil people (had other words but do not want to be banned)

Feisar

It's not about justice or right or wrong or some other notional bullshít.

It's should be about removing the likes of that from society. Bullet to the head and into a grave.

But then I'm a bit of a softy.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117675397#Comment_117675397

A bullet to the head is too good for people like that. That's a quick and virtually painless death for them. Do you think any of there victims got that. I doubt it. There victims were raped and tortured before they finally killed them. If they have to be locked up it should be in a dark cold solitary cell with only one meal a day and no medical help. See how long they would last then.

Cyclonius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117675507#Comment_117675507

I don't think many of us would be too bothered to see these sorts of evil fúckers coming to a bad end, but I'd personally like to see them rot in a supermax prison for the rest of their natural lives, in a small windowless cell, in which they sit, on their own, for 23 hours a day. ADX Florence, for instance, has been described as a clean version of hell, by some of those in the know. Some of the ISIS psychopaths didn't fear the death penalty, but they did fear ending up in a place like that. The electric chair, or a bullet to the brain, are far too quick an end for these types; they don't deserve the mercy.

Feisar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117675507#Comment_117675507

A nice sentiment my cold calculating self has no interest in.

patrickbrophy18

Going by the stats next to "Criminal charge" and his overall "Conviction(s)" in the article, it would appear as though he has no conscience given the sheer seriousness of the offences are and the amount of times he committed them. So, I don't think he spent one day in prison regretting what he did. Ergo, no matter how long the prison term is, it won't make a shred of difference and wont provide justice to the victims families.

Having said that, the fact that his father abandoned him and his siblings when he was a toddler could very possibly have planted the seeds for his later antisocial personality disorder diagnosis later on.

Jequ0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117675507#Comment_117675507

Their crimes can't be worse than yours against every linguistic law in existance. Maybe calm down a bit until you come to the realisation that you'll never get a chance to act on these fantastic fantasies of yours. Unlike the people you criticise so much.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117676058#Comment_117676058

Lol.

2ndcoming

He has a point. Although "fantastic fantasies" isn't going to gain any marks from an English teacher either.

Leg End Reject

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117676058#Comment_117676058

Ahem, existence.

It's always best to proofread if you're going to be pedantic.

Jequ0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117676323#Comment_117676323

touché

Atlantic Dawn

The US has one of the most severe sentencing systems in the civilised world up to and including death. His life in the prison was likely hell from interactions with the other prisoners, particularly if he was in general population, the longer he lived the better.

Hangdogroad

Can't believe no ones posted this yet.

https://youtu.be/12PXvKfWdZs

Bobblehats

Sooo… biopic. Hasselhoff?

AMKC

Actually Any trekkers here who has watched Voyager and the Season 3 episode "The Chute" will know what I am on about when I say that is what should be done with people who have no place in a civilised society as long as they have been proven to be guilty first of course. For those who have not seen it and want to check out its "Star Trek Voyager" season 3 episode 3.

ShatterAlan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117675507#Comment_117675507

The purpose of justice is threefold. Punishment, removing the threat from society and rehabilitation. These ideas are probably a little too complex for you to get your head around so you go for the cave-man revenge option.

Sgt Hartman

I clocked on the link this morning while on the bus and I ended up going down a rabbit hole, looking up the wiki profiles of quite a few of the inmates at the Supermax prison. The Unabomber, The Shoe Bomber, The Underwear Bomber, The Boston Marathon Bomber, The Aryan Brotherhood Leader, El Chapo, Abu Hamza...it's like a who's who of high profile criminals and terrorists.

bb12

that girl on the show had a lucky escape. she refused point blank to go out with after finding him creepy. even the other bachelors felt something off about him and you can see the guy sitting to his left leaning away from him at all times. they found a hundred photos of women in his lockup some of which they're still trying to identify today i believe as they think he also killed them.

watched a documentary on the green river killer recently. his wife had no idea. the truck stop killer is particularly heinous in what he did.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117679986#Comment_117679986

But punishment is what he is asking for. Punishment isn’t revenge by the way, since that’s personal. State punishment is dispassionate.

as for rehabilitation that’s not going to work with murder. Plenty of murders are once off actions, particularly crimes of passion. A man who kills his wife isn’t necessarily a threat to society afterwards. A drunk driver who kills 5 children might be totally shamed out of drinking and happy to never drive again (thus rehabilitated). When we jail him it’s for retribution.

the reason to not support state sanctioned murder is that the state shouldn’t be killing people in most cases, and the system isn’t 100% perfect.

Tony EH

I've always been in two minds about the death penalty. One the one hand, those type of laws remain on the books and can be abused by nefarious parties which can, hypothetically, make such laws a danger themselves. On the other hand, people like Alcala have amply proven their extreme danger and with such people there is no coming back as they are too far gone. Too far gone to even justify a life behind bars one might say.

Alcala belongs to a minutely small group of people for whom the life of others has no meaning, whatsoever, and they are an extremely dangerous offshoot of criminal that, frankly, society (even prison society) is far better off without. People like this kind of multiple murderer is one where there is a clear cut case for state execution.

This combats the opposite opinion that I would hold, in that the state shouldn't be able to have the power to take life due to the danger of it being abused or used in a mistaken manner. The Nazis, for example and without trying to Godwin the point, largely used existent German law to do away with their opponents and have the likes of The White Rose students executed.

Both thoughts, I suppose, are an example of a human being being able to hold two opposing opinions at the same time. But looking at Alcala's rap sheet really makes for chilling reading I have to say.