Mayo GAA Discussion

PressRun

Kind of felt it was going to be ugly with the injury list growing and it was apparent within the first 10 minutes that we weren't at the pitch of it at all. Thought we seriously lacked pace at the back. Stephen Coen's form has been awful the entire league and it's a bit of an elephant in the room at this stage - dunno if Horan has the guts to drop him since he's captain. Midfield struggled badly at times too and the injury to Jordan Flynn looked concerning, though he did eventually walk off so hopefully not as bad as it looked. The lack of conviction and penetration up front is a persistent problem that isn't going to be solved this year unfortunately. Orme isn't ready physically for this level yet. Jack Carney a year or two off too.

Only positives were the return of Cillian and Carr was decent I thought.

Hopefully the return of key players for the Galway game will make a difference but I don't think the forward problem is going to be solved this year to seriously compete for an All Ireland.

km79

Byrne showed he is a capable deputy for Hennelly

Plunkett kicked two good scores

Cillian back

That’s all the positives

Huge question marks over Horans in game management again too

2018na

del for o’hora. Shut your mouth and play football

PressRun

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118875326#Comment_118875326

Thought some of Byrne's kickouts were wobbly and he shouldn't have come off his line for the first goal imo.

Always_Running

Bad day at the head office for Mayo. Probably the worse defensively performance for a number of years.

MacDanger

Hard to say for sure who was marking who from watching on TV but I think Hession switched to P Clifford in the 2nd half and seemed to do okay on him

Blackjack

No doubt this thread will have a number of new visitors this evening.

Fr Tod Umptious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118875210#Comment_118875210

I don't think it was a reality check, I think they knew what to expect all day long.

Kerry have been playing with a full deck since the first day of the McGrath Cup, and they were not going to change that today.

Mayo on the other hand had done nothing but experiment throughout the league, many times out of necessity because of injuries.

I actually think Mayo's appearance in this final was a foregone conclusion once they beat Dublin.

That's a game they have not won in years and it was two points in the bag they have not had for years, so even the loses to Kerry and Tyrone did not hamper them.

They could have got to that final losing to Kildare.

So they were in the final and a bit like a mule with a spinning wheel, danged if they knew how they got there and danged if they knew what to do with it.

And they played that way, they tried what they tried and hopefully have learned something from it.

Put it this way.

Who would you prefer to be ?

The team that didn't really care about the final who got hammered, or the team who really wanted to get to and win the final that lost by a point.

I know which I'd be happier with.

Avon8

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118875337#Comment_118875337

It really was humiliation on his part. The entire country was watching the messing and sledging and hoping he got embarrassed. Clifford duly obliged

Squatman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118875462#Comment_118875462

Terrible analagy. Who do you prefer to be. The team that got bitch whipped worse than our worst John maughan final or the team that won. There was no team that lost by a point today. Foolish idealisation of a Team and management team that owes more to their fans. Losing by 15 points and the supporters not even offered a refund going out the gate. Heard it first here. Horan to Blame. Horan to go... Mid season, I don't give a damn. We played better the day his kids were being confirmed. (Having) No manager > current manager.

Squatman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118874898#Comment_118874898

This. All year we've have chances like this go wanting.

Fr Tod Umptious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118875528#Comment_118875528

I'm sorry, maybe my point was poorly made.

The team I'm talking about is Galway.

Really wanted to get to the final, and win it, but lost by a point, still not winning knockout games in Croke Park etc.

Avon8

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118875462#Comment_118875462

You think a county that has 3 (THREE) all Irelands in 130 years and had grown men crying in the stands after the 2019 win, didn't want to win today? Didn't want to win a national title? Against a county with all Ireland coming out their ears?

Barlett

I think tactically Kerry are much more solid now & have moved on from last year , we have just the one way of playing & thats Horanball & when it’s in full flight it’s fabulous. But at this stage, we’ve been at it so long, I can’t see it unlocking the door . I have no doubt we’ll give it a decent rattle again this year but I don’t see enough from the league to believe it’s going to end any ways different.

briandebum

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118875607#Comment_118875607

Galway weren't too bothered to win that today, promotion was more the aim this year. Think Shane Walsh may have got more than 20 minutes if we were desperate for a win. Still won't be heading up to Castlebar with much hope though.

lillielad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118875528#Comment_118875528

This is madness, Kerry could do that to most in the country, Mayo have tons of injuries at the moment too, I wouldn't be too worried once you get the injured sorted.

naughto

I said before the game coen at 3 was a disaster and sure enough he was dont no what has happened to him but I hope he gets back what he has lost.can see him being dropped for galway.

Any news on Jordan and mullin ??

No point going through the rest it was a hiding of all hidings.

For all we have blooded it will still be as you are from last yr bar jordan if he is fit.

Xander10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118875404#Comment_118875404

As a neutral, I actually think, this performance might stand to Mayo.

They won't go down with such a whimper in any AI game. They have players to come back in.

Kerry might go away thinking everything is rosier in the garden, than it actually is.

League wins count for little.

Sebastian Dangerfield

A ball dropping off the post cost us in the 2012 final. Cillian hit the post in the 2016 replay and no one near the bounce. I might be off but I counted through the beer 4 post strikes today. Why dont Mayo players pounce on these things?

MacDanger

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118876163#Comment_118876163

3 of them, we weren't even close. In fairness to Loftus, he was inches away from gathering the other one, the bounce just beat him by fraction

Fr Tod Umptious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118876153#Comment_118876153

They won't go down with such a whimper but they still won't win an All Ireland either.

I remember watching a docudrama about the Titanic back 10 years ago.

The designer of the ship is brought down to see the water leaking in after the ice berg collision.

Even though there is very little water leaking in he asks how many compartments are taking water.

When he hears the answer, he simply says "she's in the noose of the hangman"

As in that's it, nothing can be done about it, the sinking was inevitable.

Mayo are the same this year, not winning an All Ireland is inevitable.

They don't have enough players of the required quality in the required areas to win it.

Squatman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118875955#Comment_118875955

Don't get caught up in that tripe. When we were beating Kerry, they never laid down and took it bareback like we did today. Shame on the management team. Abysmal, if that happened in Kerry or Dublin heads would roll. If it happened in soccer the manager would already have resigned. In this forum we applaud such a greivious hiding under the guise of "it will stand to them" and other BS like that. There is never a moral victory in losing. Nothing good ever comes from losing. Another day out with no tactics. Another day where AOS thinks he can bull thru opposition and do absolutely nothing. Byrne is an able replacement to hennelly - certainly capable of replicating hennellys bad days anyway. Keegan and ohora on the pitch with their kids like what they did wasnt to be ashamed of. By duck Horan better hope he beats Galway... Mayo co. Board should start looking for their new manager now though.

Oscar Bravo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118876313#Comment_118876313

Honest and spot on.

Avon8

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118876313#Comment_118876313

Not sure what Keegan has to be ashamed of. O'hora on the other hand....

Squatman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118876374#Comment_118876374

Nothing on the individual to be fair, and I don't mean to player bash, but the collective effort was terrible. When Kerry we going thru the change, they were always competitive, today's was so shambolic, that 1-16 should have been strictly new players. That's the only thing that would have improved the outcome

MacDanger

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118876110#Comment_118876110

Yeah, Coen is playing v poorly, very close to getting dropped I'd say. A man marking job on Conroy (not a speedster himself) might be a good role for him the next day

muddle84

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118876304#Comment_118876304

I think we had the players last year and i still think we have the players this year too if we get all the injured back, but we don't have the manager to win one!

muddle84

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118876374#Comment_118876374

I don't think we have a back that could actually handle Clifford in the form he is in now, is there a back in the country that could? I think O'Hora could have done better but again, i put the blame on Horan for not having a good enough plan to deal with Clifford. Surely you can't be leaving him in one on one situations!

Cartman78

A very flat, leggy, lethargic performance from start to finish.

Durcan and Mullin not starting is like ripping the engine out of the team...we had zero forward impetus from our own half.

As someone else mentioned the only potential upsides were Carr kicking a couple of decent points and Cillian O'Connor getting a few minutes of "action".

Any news yet on Jordan Flynn...a few lads around me at the games were convinced he'd broken his leg at the time so while relieved to see him walking off I wouldn't be shocked to hear if he's out for a while.

Kerry on the other hand looked like a team in peak condition...they won't have another serious game until the Quarter Finals so I guess they may have been targeting this game more than us (??)

re: Galway and Roscommon - a decent match with almost zero wides. The Rossies should have won it comfortably but ran out of gas and let Galway back in.

Comer didn't do much and Walsh was quiet when he came on.

Both teams are potentially dangerous to Mayo and could do damage if we're as passive and flaccid as we were against Kerry.

RedDevil55

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118877358#Comment_118877358

It wasn't the manager's fault we missed 4 goal chances in the final last year.