Mayo GAA Discussion

charolais0153

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120320749#Comment_120320749

Winning is a habit. We are unbeaten so far this year. Got to keep the momentum going Playing Galway in Connacht is one of the highlights of the year. And that game be better experience for mcbrein , coyne carr Conroy than a years worth of training

muddle84

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120325174#Comment_120325174

Playing them in a league final wouldn't be bad experience either!

Happyilylost

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120324742#Comment_120324742

Probably the same kind of trip that O'Laoi got black carded for last year when Cillian decided to fall into him...........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m1zDS52Xx0

Blackjack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120324742#Comment_120324742

There sure is. Of course that didn’t get the same level of notice from the trolls

https://twitter.com/inphojames/status/752245287327072256?s=46&t=ykVB3m4Gr-33Rm_rENBb4A

SqueakyKneecap

If I'm a troll because Aido deliberately threw himself to the floor under minimal contact, like Sean Kelly, then I'm as much a troll as yourself.

PARlance

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120325216#Comment_120325216

That prompted me to check the odds for the league. My flutter is mainly confined to the grand national these days so I might be missing a trick but I was surprised that it took so long to find odds for the league.

None of the Irish ones seem to have odds. William Hill have us 4/5 on followed by Rossies and Galway. But Kerry 10/1 and Tyrone 50/1 are huge odds for outright winners.

Kerry especially imo, Galway and Roscommon up next for them, if they start to find some form, they could easily find themselves in the final by accident. Yera.

Those final spot(s) is fairly wide open I would have thought.

RedDevil55

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120325688#Comment_120325688

*Threw himself to the floor because he was tripped, not because someone tickled his tummy.

Blackjack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120325688#Comment_120325688

Wasn’t referring to you as a troll but if you look at the photos you can see it was a trip. Again those photos didn’t make it to the Sunday game commentary at the time and they were ignored, even though they show the trip clearly. That was the point I was making. It was a different angle which Marty Morrissey didn’t have on his iPad to show the Fermanagh manager after the game, and that particular incident has been bandied about as a dive when it clearly wasn’t.

I’ll admit my purple nurple reference was perhaps a little inflammatory. And for what it’s worth I don’t care for the feigning of injury to get players sent off from any players, and that includes mayo players.

its something that’s rarely punished - I’ve only seen someone getting penalised for it once, a Kildare player in the league game last year in Pairc Seán getting a yellow for acting injured. The ref even dismissed the medical team running onto the pitch and gave the lad a yellow card, can’t recall which Kildare player it was.

Refs do certainly need more assistance when it comes to the appropriate decisions but by the same token need to start penalising players that are acting the maggot. That includes lying on the ball to slow down play as well.

PARlance

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120325688#Comment_120325688

He threw himself, the arms were up, but it was fairly clear the was minimal contact. And it doesn't take much to put someone of balance when running. Plenty an ankle tap has taken down a big man.

But whether people want to think he dived, went down easy, was tripped etc... it really isn't the same as Kelly dropping and faking an injury in my book.

It's something that is a problem in the game now. I wouldn't be getting too righteous about it myself, as it could be one of ours acting the maggot next week.

The GAA really need to get some video evidence and start handing out bans.

Another thing they really need to address is lads falling into "high tackles". Lads seeing a raised arm and pretty much initiating the contact. Very hard for a ref to spot it though and video evidence mightn't be conclusive either.

muddle84

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120325435#Comment_120325435

To be fair to AOS, that is not part of his game. The Fermanagh incident got plenty debate before, but there is pictures out there that show contact! I don't think anyone in their right mind could argue against Cillian acting the maggot in that clip, he did the same thing to Tom Flynn in Pearse stadium a few years back if i remember correctly. Darran O'Sullivan in the replay in 2017 if i remember correctly too??The list goes on! Definitely in the same bucket as Sean Kelly's effort at the weekend.

MacDanger

I disagree on the clip with Cillian in it - as a forward, it's common practice to run across the path of a chasing back; literally every single forward in the history of the game has done it at some point

manofwisdom

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120320749#Comment_120320749

The loser of the Mayo v Roscommon Quarter final will be 3rd seed in the group and in a group with a provincial winner Dublin, Kerry, Ulster champions and will play them away in round 1.

If you don't win the group its prem round played a week before the All-Ireland Quarter and the opposition will be rested.

Long story short this new format is set up best for the provincial winner to win their group and All-Ireland quarter final match.

SqueakyKneecap

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120325787#Comment_120325787

I won't drag this out any further but I'd argue O'Shea's is actually worse because he benefited unfairly from the dive. It essentially knocked Fermanagh out too so there was more consequence to it. Bringing a still in to defend diving is absolute waffle imo and only excusing the theatrics. Kelly's is still shambolic playacting but he was rightly told to cop-on on Sunday, which unfortunately is about the extent of power the referee has in that situation. It deserves a black card for simulation and then further investigation to upgrade it to a match ban imo.

muddle84

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120326119#Comment_120326119

I'd definitely agree with you on the punishment! They have to start clamping down more on that type of behaviour!

RedDevil55

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120326119#Comment_120326119

Fermanagh lost by 5 points in case anyone has forgotten. The still shot shows the trip which cannot be seen in the clip you shared.

That penalty against Fermanagh was blown way out of proportion. Their keeper came out afterwards and said he considered retiring over it! Not to mention Marty M bringing an iPad into his interview with the Fermanagh manager just so he'd call Aido out for diving. Nobody did that last weekend for the Cox and Kelly dives though.

Squatman

Genuinely surprised you don't have more acknowledgement for this post. Very funny. Kudos

Blackjack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120326119#Comment_120326119

Yeah, showing pictures that proves he was tripped is waffle alright. I’m sorry you got all sore about the purple nurple comment re Kelly but dragging up an incident from 7 years ago to make your case and then dismissing the clear evidence presented to you that the penalty was warranted as “waffle” won’t win you many debating competitions.

Everyone wants the play acting gone and would like to see it punished but the whataboutery won’t progress anything.

SqueakyKneecap

There's nothing more whataboutery than lads defending O'Shea throwing himself to the ground like a lad that was turfed outta the Castlecourt Hotel. I'm sure there's probably even a JPeg out there that doesn't make Sean Kelly look like a diver from Sunday but it'd still be waffle. Doesn't mean he didn't completely exaggerate things in a unsportsmanlike manner. Lads might want playacting gone but seemingly not in the last 10 minutes of a championship match.

Blackjack

But the proof is there - he was tripped and the penalty was warranted, whether the trip was accidental or not (I believe it to have been accidental). Also It was 7 years ago, yet you’re still sore about it. Kelly going down like he’d been shot and then writhing on the ground for a few minutes trying to get a lad sent off after only the slightest of contact is quite different, and it was last Sunday, and much more current no matter what spin you want to place on it.

Anyway I do hope Kelly makes a full and speedy recovery from the awful Purple Nurple. He certainly seemed to be in great pain and suffered great injury, despite barely having been touched at all.

SqueakyKneecap

I might've been sore over the world's softest trip if ye didn't score two own-goals later that year. These things even out and I've no doubt there'll probably be a soft red card in Sean Kelly's future.

Best of luck for the year ahead and hopefully we might get ye in the Connacht semis.

Blackjack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120326742#Comment_120326742

Poor Kelly might get a Chinese burn the next day as Karma.

Good luck also. Sure it’s all only a bit of Craic.

Happyilylost

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120326075#Comment_120326075

Running across a defender no bother when the player is in possession. Handy way to win a free. Doing it a million miles away from the action is a totally different situation trying to get a lad black carded. In the modern game players run side by side all game long tracking runners. Lads were throwing themselves into each like that no one would be left on the pitch.

Anyway my comment was in jest more in defence of AOS than anything else. Galway is one of the more frequent teams he battered playing full forward and I still get the sweats when he lines up there.

Green Peter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120326846#Comment_120326846

Sean Kelly is a super footballer and Mayo know it. He's well able for anything Aidan O Shea can produce at full forward. Kelly and Galway will win an All Ireland SFC in the next 3 years.

muddle84

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120327040#Comment_120327040

I dont think anybody said he isnt! He will have a league title in a few weeks as well im sure and good luck to him!

SqueakyKneecap

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120326777#Comment_120326777

Absolutely. I think it's a wide open All-Ireland this year and McStay has ye humming nicely. Tommy Conroy will be a huge threat this season.

muddle84

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120325722#Comment_120325722

Paddy Power have odds up now for it as well. Mayo 5/6,Galway 4/1, Kerry 6/1, Armagh 8/1, Roscommon 9/1, Tyrone 16/1

Blackjack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120327603#Comment_120327603

Early days yet. McStay has a habit of having teams running on all cylinders early. Maintaining the momentum for the whole season is what we need to be doing.

Galway getting to the final last year was no flash in the pan. I would have been a huge admirer of PJ as a player but I'm not sure about him as a manager yet. I could be proven wrong this year. I think having Cian O'Neill there alongside him is a great shout though.

PARlance

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120328793#Comment_120328793

Those odds are more in line with what I was thinking. I would have Galway and Kerry closer.

It would be a big shock if Kerry lost at home to the Rossies next. If we give them the two points there, it could quite likely come down to Galway Vs Kerry as being the decider.

I can't see Armagh taking 4 points from Galway home and Tyrone away.

10/1 for Kerry is a crazy price imo and it's still available.

PARlance

I see AhRef is running with The McStayWay as a follow on from HoranBall... Tongues firmly in cheek.

Green&Red

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120327040#Comment_120327040

Are you not banned from this thread? Can't keep away