Notice of termination

barbiegirl123

Hi everyone,
Please give me some honest advice and no smart comments please. I am a first year student nurse and I got a new job in my locality. During my interview with the manager he told me that he didn't mind giving days off as long as there is plenty of notice and he also asked me would i work weekends which I said I would. Last week and work i politely asked my manager could i take a week off at the end of august as i was planing on going on holiday with my family to see a family member in england (manager is aware that we had already booked the flights/ we are all fully vaccinated) to which he bluntly and rudely said no and he also added he wouldn't have given me the job if he knew i was going to be taken a week off) i have spoke to other colleagues after our conversation and they told me that booking days off can be a nightmare with the manager. I am thinking of handing in my notice for the last week of august so i can go on this holiday, my parents have also said they would rather me focus on my college work instead of trying to balance a part time job and college. the question i have is how do i give my notice to my manager without him going crazy? the excuse i want to say for giving in my notice is that i'm going back to college early

YellowLead

When you say ‘go crazy’ what do you think he will do? He might be annoyed but surely he won’t do anything about it. He’ll just be grumpy to work with but sounds like he is anyway. Just tough it out and if it’s unbearable just leave.

Princess Calla

You owe the manager nothing.

Give two weeks notice to finish up before the holiday. In your letter thank them for giving you the opportunity to work in such a lovely place and tell them you've learned so much. ( No point burning bridges)

Go on your holiday and don't look back.

stargazer 68

barbiegirl123 wrote: »

The excuse i want to say for giving in my notice is that i'm going back to college early

You don't need to use any excuses. Write a letter giving your notice of 1 week, 1 month whatever. As per my contract my last working day will be.....

And leave it at that. They don't need to know why you are leaving.

who what when

You don't need to give him a reason. You can hand in your notice at any stage.

As he lied to you in the interview, if it was me i would give him the minimum notice period possible (check your contract) and let him know exactly why. Egotistical managers on a power trip who think they can dictate people's lives are a pet hate of mine.

barbiegirl123

thanks for all the advice so far everyone. also how much notice do ye think i should give as i have been given no contract from my employer, i was looking on citizens info and they said minimum notice u have to give is 1 week. also do ye think i should give in my notice over email or do it in person?

Smee_Again

In person and in writing and just give a week.

banie01

You don't need to worry about him going crazy.
If he does, just stay calm and say I'm not staying to be berated

You are new to the job, the usual requirement is 1 weeks notice but your contract of employment may specify more but again given you are within the 1st year of employment, a week is sufficient.

You do not need to give any reason for leaving, none.
Even if they ask, you just say personal reasons.
Don't worry about needing to make an excuse or explain your resignation.

It's a simple 2 lined letter.
Dear manager.

I wish to confirm this letter is 7 days notice of my resignation effective from xx/xx.

Yours sincerely

elfy4eva

I'd say you just need to get a thick skin in regard to his reaction to you handing in your notice. It's your life to enter and leave employment as you wish and assuming you're giving your contracted notice period the rest is his problem.

The only advice I would give is that even if he does get thick about it you should compose and conduct yourself professionally. Don't get roped into a row about it.

Edit: If you've been given no contract your notice period is one week. That's their fault if it is usually more.

barbiegirl123

Thanks for everyones help, I was very anxious about it but the comments are helping me to stay calm. The business is currently very short staffed so Im just thinking the manager will have a lot to say when I hand in my notice.

1hnr79jr65

What type business is it and how long have you been working there ?

Augme

If you've no contract I would give in my notice on the last pay day and give immediate notice and not work any extra day. There's no way I'd trust this kind of manager to pay me wages owed once I have left.

tony1kenobi

Make sure you figure your holiday pay into your notice. For example, if you are owed a weeks holiday and are giving a weeks notice, tell the boss you are using your accrued holiday for that week. Then moonwalk out the door.

Hannibal_Smith

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Oranage2

Get a sick note from a doctor saying you can't work that week, but if you really want to quit just hand in your notice with the minimum time required

who what when

who what when wrote: »

You don't need to give him a reason. You can hand in your notice at any stage.

As he lied to you in the interview, if it was me i would give him the minimum notice period possible (check your contract) and let him know exactly why. Egotistical managers on a power trip who think they can dictate people's lives are a pet hate of mine.

This. I'd just go some Friday and let them see how long it takes to figure out I wasn't coming back. If you're lied to in an interview like that then it's exactly what they deserve. I wouldn't even consider giving him notice.

barbiegirl123

Sour Lemonz wrote: »

What type business is it and how long have you been working there ?

It's a cafe/shop and i've been working there since the 16th of june

Deep Thought

barbiegirl123 wrote: »

It's a cafe/shop and i've been working there since the 16th of june

No contract.. if paid weekly, one week

K.Flyer

barbiegirl123 wrote: »

It's a cafe/shop and i've been working there since the 16th of june

So you are only there 10 days, is that right?

Was this trip away already planned, booked and paid for before you took the job?

Pawwed Rig

He can say whatever he wants. No need for you to worry about it.

barbiegirl123

It was only organized after I accepted the job. Its just annoying because I gave him 2 months notice about this holiday and he was so rude about it when I asked for the time off.

Keelsean

'hoping your manager wouldn't go crazy' – sounds like he/she has no place being a manager if that's the reaction.
I've had similar in the past – keep calm and polite, have your phone on record and if he/she gets personal or abusive then let them know you've recorded the conversation for your own protection as the reaction was expected ... then watch to see the tone of the conversation change. Note - once you are part of the conversation you are within your rights to record it for your reference.
No person – employee (or manager) should have to deal with this kind of treatment and they'll just keep carrying on until someone corrects their behaviour.
Enjoy your family holiday

I'm a little confused - when did you start working for him?

If it was just this month, you wouldn't have built up a weeks worth of annual leave yet, so I could understand why he said no to a full week off.

If jobs are easy enough to come by, then fair enough, hand in your notice... but like that, I wouldn't burn bridges.

barbiegirl123

I started working for him on the 16th of June, its just annoying the tone and way he spoke to me he was very condescending.

PmMeUrDogs

If you're only there since 16th June and have no contract, you don't need to give notice. Less than 13 weeks of service with no contract means you're not required to give notice. Over 13 weeks, you need to give a week.


Don't give a reason, just inform him you won't be returning due to personal reasons - technically not a lie because you personally can't stand him

barbiegirl123

barbiegirl123 wrote: »

I started working for him on the 16th of June, its just annoying the tone and way he spoke to me he was very condescending.

So I assume you were asking for unpaid leave.

Okay, well, I do think it is a bit cheeky to ask for a full week off so soon after starting a new job, and August is prime holiday time, he probably already has staff with days off booked - but enjoy your holiday!

jackboy

barbiegirl123 wrote: »

I started working for him on the 16th of June, its just annoying the tone and way he spoke to me he was very condescending.

You could just be totally honest with him. Say you want to finish up because you have a holiday booked and his tone with you is making you feel uncomfortable.

You might be lucky and he fires you on the spot negating the one weeks notice😁

Bicyclette

There are places crying out for people at the moment. He probably needs you more than you need him.

Give him a week's notice. Explain that you won't be able to work that week. Be polite. And thank him at the end. It doesn't cost anything to be polite, even if you don't feel like it.

Remember he can let you go with a week's notice as well. Or just not put you on the roster.

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Princess Calla wrote:

Give two weeks notice to finish up before the holiday. In your letter thank them for giving you the opportunity to work in such a lovely place and tell them you've learned so much. ( No point burning bridges)

Princess Calla wrote:

You owe the manager nothing.

Princess Calla wrote:

Go on your holiday and don't look back.

Princess Calla wrote:

Give two weeks notice to finish up before the holiday. In your letter thank them for giving you the opportunity to work in such a lovely place and tell them you've learned so much. ( No point burning bridges)

Princess Calla wrote:

Give two weeks notice to finish up before the holiday. In your letter thank them for giving you the opportunity to work in such a lovely place and tell them you've learned so much. ( No point burning bridges)

Princess Calla wrote:

You owe the manager nothing.

Princess Calla wrote:

Go on your holiday and don't look back.

This is what OP needs to do.

FishOnABike

If you haven't taken holidays up to now make sure you calculate how much holiday pay you have built up and ensure it is paid in full (less any tax deductions).

FishOnABike

FishOnABike wrote: »

If you haven't taken holidays up to now make sure you calculate how much holiday pay you have built up and ensure it is paid in full (less any tax deductions).

She has only been in this part-time job for 11 days! (and that is including today).

BettePorter

so you started on 16th june and last week u told him of the holiday ? By last week you mean pre 20th june ? You can't blame him for being a tad pissed off. It makes it seem like you knew about it but didnt mention it until after u started. so his reaction was probably based on that.

My advice would be ....Late August is 2 months away. Prove ur worth over the next 8 weeks and a week before your hol tell him the hol is still booked for next week and sorry but ull have to hand in your notice. Chances are if you ve been a good reliable worker prior to that he ll not want the hassle of looking for a new recruit and will let you have the week off rather than lose u altogether. Turn it around on him.

K.Flyer

[Deleted User] wrote: »

She has only been in this part-time job for 11 days! (and that is including today).

And as it's only part time work any holiday leave due will most likely be calculated at 8% of her hours worked.

BettePorter

BettePorter wrote: »

so you started on 16th june and last week u told him of the holiday ? By last week you mean pre 20th june ? You can't blame him for being a tad pissed off. It makes it seem like you knew about it but didnt mention it until after u started. so his reaction was probably based on that.

This.

Also July / August is peak holiday time. He may have other employees who have that week booked off.

Carodh

Out of curiosity is this in a tourist town/seaside town. I’ve seen people where I live take on summer jobs and then request a weeks holiday smack bang in the middle of the busiest 2/3 weeks.
People are hired for Summer jobs as the business is busier or it requires staff to cover regular staffs summer holidays. I can understand why he wouldn’t be happy giving you holidays during this time.

3DataModem

barbiegirl123 wrote: »

I am a first year student nurse and I got a new job in my locality.

Is this a summer job? Or a part-time job?

barbiegirl123 wrote: »

Last week and work i politely asked my manager could i take a week off at the end of august .... we had already booked the flights

The nicest manager in the world would be pretty miffed at a request for leave from someone who has already booked flights, to be honest.

barbiegirl123 wrote: »

i have spoke to other colleagues after our conversation and they told me that booking days off can be a nightmare with the manager.

Any manager or job with this attitude should be avoided as much as possible.

maneno

Oranage2 wrote: »

Get a sick note from a doctor saying you can't work that week, but if you really want to quit just hand in your notice with the minimum time required

OP don't do this, just give the notice as per your contract

paw patrol

Deleted User wrote: »

She has only been in this part-time job for 11 days! (and that is including today).

to deny somebody a summer holiday is mean behaviour
sure you can play it by the book but with 2 months notice for 1 week.
manager is a c8nt.

OP , give him a weeks notice with no contract.

BettePorter

paw patrol wrote: »

to deny somebody a summer holiday is mean behaviour
sure you can play it by the book but with 2 months notice for 1 week.
manager is a c8nt.

OP , give him a weeks notice with no contract.

Not if he's employed her specifically for Holiday Cover. OP hasn't said if its a summer job or a regular part time job. Fair enough if its regular part time but if its solely for the summer, she is taking the mick a bit asking a few days after starting for a week off.

ibarelycare

Definitely hand in your notice and enjoy your holiday.

In future jobs, don't book flights/accommodation for holidays until your annual leave has been approved in writing.

paw patrol

BettePorter wrote: »

Not if he's employed her specifically for Holiday Cover. OP hasn't said if its a summer job or a regular part time job. Fair enough if its regular part time but if its solely for the summer, she is taking the mick a bit asking a few days after starting for a week off.

the OP mentions balancing the job part time and college
so I assume it's not a summer gig.

paw patrol

paw patrol wrote: »

to deny somebody a summer holiday is mean behaviour
sure you can play it by the book but with 2 months notice for 1 week.
manager is a c8nt.

OP , give him a weeks notice with no contractur .

The manager is running a business. They are justified in being annoyed when a new hire who is in the job less then a week and (what many are choosing to ignore) has not actually accrued any entitlement to holidays. (Refer to Working Time Act). Nor will they accrue a full weeks worth in two months.

You think the manager is the c word. I think they are running a business which includes rostering staff on and off. Did you consider there may be other staff already booked off for that week? Its peak holiday time.

I think the OP shows immaturity and a poor work ethic.

barbiegirl123

Deleted User wrote: »

The manager is running a business. They are justified in being annoyed when a new hire who is in the job less then a week and (what many are choosing to ignore) has not actually accrued any entitlement to holidays. (Refer to Working Time Act). Nor will they accrue a full weeks worth in two months.

You think the manager is the c word. I think they are running a business which includes rostering staff on and off. Did you consider there may be other staff already booked off for that week? Its peak holiday time.

I think the OP shows immaturity and a poor work ethic.

excuse me but how dare u assume i have poor work ethic and that i am immature. I was told during my interview with him that he had not problem giving days off as long as he had notice and i give him notice and he reacts like that?

barbiegirl123

barbiegirl123 wrote: »

excuse me but how dare u assume i have poor work ethic and that i am immature. I was told during my interview with him that he had not problem giving days off as long as he had notice and i give him notice and he reacts like that?

Well, that's how your attitude comes across to me, sorry (not really) if you don't like it. It is what it is.

listermint

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Well, that's how your attitude comes across to me, sorry (not really) if you don't like it. It is what it is.

Well in fairness.
.you'd be wrong then. But look it's ok to be wrong. Just make sur me you post stuff like that so people can see how you are.

schmoo2k

Deleted User wrote: »

The manager is running a business. They are justified in being annoyed when a new hire who is in the job less then a week and (what many are choosing to ignore) has not actually accrued any entitlement to holidays. (Refer to Working Time Act). Nor will they accrue a full weeks worth in two months.

You think the manager is the c word. I think they are running a business which includes rostering staff on and off. Did you consider there may be other staff already booked off for that week? Its peak holiday time.

I think the OP shows immaturity and a poor work ethic.

They are justified in saying "no" - being annoyed is just poor management.

The employee can terminate their contract with the stipulated time period as per the contract, without needing to feel anything.

Be reassured that once you leave or once the manager says "no" folks will move on and deal with it within days / weeks.

diceyreilly

schmoo2k wrote: »

They are justified in saying "no" - being annoyed is just poor management.

The employee can terminate their contract with the stipulated time period as per the contract, without needing to feel anything.

Be reassured that once you leave or once the manager says "no" folks will move on and deal with it within days / weeks.

Some people on here like to pretend they are management. I think it makes them feel better about themselves.

OP leave if you want to leave. Give the real reason. Don’t mind if he gets annoyed or not. You’ll learn that when you get a bit older.

listermint

listermint wrote: »

Well in fairness.
.you'd be wrong then. But look it's ok to be wrong. Just make sur me you post stuff like that so people can see how you are.

That's your opinion.

We'll just have to disagree on whose wrong about what here.

Best case scenario, the OP learns for the next job they have, that you get time off approved BEFORE you go off and book anything.

And the manager will be able hire someone who will actually be glad of the job.

End of story.

km991148

barbiegirl123 wrote: »

The business is currently very short staffed so Im just thinking the manager will have a lot to say when I hand in my notice.

Not your problem. Maybe better management would ensure better retention, but still nothing to do with you really.

barbiegirl123

i just feel like im really in the wrong i am considering cancelling the holiday because i am scared what the manager is going to say to me

barbiegirl123

update: i have emailed my manager with my two weeks notice today. found out a few days ago that 3 other employees are leaving the same week as me. working with the manager tomorrow god only knows what he'll say to me