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JDM fanboy thread
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24-06-2021 5:08pm#1I feel like this market boom needs a place of its own as it's been creeping into and taking over both the dreamers and slanger threads and honestly neither really fit.
Use this to post insane prices or well kept examples for me to dream of buying.
Here's a very tidy Levin for a price that is both mental and acceptable all at once.
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-levin-bzr/284136156
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That Levin look very clean.
If anything sums up the absolute madness of the JDM market of the last 12-18 months its these.
I sold my Glanza V, which I believe to have been in better condition than the two white examples below, for 2,800
https://www.donedeal.ie/othermotor-for-sale/toyota-glanza-v-turbo-jdm/27858286
https://www.donedeal.ie/othermotor-for-sale/toyota-glanza-v-spec-turbo-1998/28288443
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-glanza-v-turbo-just-landed/28310140
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Interesting thread Cian, the prices are going mad worldwide, seeing that EK9 last week go for 130k really cemented the fact we are at peak stupidity for JDM cars specially 90s cars.I feel like this market boom needs a place of its own as it's been creeping into and taking over both the dreamers and slanger threads and honestly neither really fit.
Use this to post insane prices or well kept examples for me to dream of buying.
Here's a very tidy Levin for a price that is both mental and acceptable all at once.
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-levin-bzr/28413615
Used to love those AE111`s ,the standard suspension in super strut for was a head ache to deal with but felt brilliant on track, that one seems a bit on the high side for me , i wouldnt have thought these were Quite there yet, though with the amount of them broken for their engines i wouldnt say there are many left here at all, not seeing a lot at auction any more either.That Levin look very clean.
If anything sums up the absolute madness of the JDM market of the last 12-18 months its these.
I sold my Glanza V, which I believe to have been in better condition than the two white examples below, for 2,800
https://www.donedeal.ie/othermotor-for-sale/toyota-glanza-v-turbo-jdm/27858286
https://www.donedeal.ie/othermotor-for-sale/toyota-glanza-v-spec-turbo-1998/28288443
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-glanza-v-turbo-just-landed/28310140
https://www.donedeal.ie/carparts-for-sale/toyota-glanza-td04/28091304
Jesus thats a big jump since i last looked at these surely you would get one landed in Ireland for less than that? or am i that much out of the loop on JDM cars.0 -
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I posted this in today I saw a car for sale but just seen this thread so thought I would post it again. There are two other Pulsars for sale but they are not in the country yet and you are the one who has to sort out the VRT and tax etc..
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Nice DC2 noise from gearbox though.
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Honda CRX. Rare car but this ones in UK.
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wotzgoingon wrote: »Honda CRX. Rare car but this ones in UK.
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/honda-crx-1-6-vtec-sir-jdm-ef8/28473721
Jesus I'd nearly let mine go for that money!0 -
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I sold my s14 last year before things went really crazy. Had thought of picking something cheaper up but prices ballooned and id put a lot of it down to raffle companies. TRD kitted is200's are up for 6k ffs
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Meh, there were few enough who didn't have some sort of whine from the gearbox if you listened hard enough.wotzgoingon wrote: »Nice DC2 noise from gearbox though.
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/honda-integra-dc2-type-r/28514930
When I imported mine a mechanic I knew was convinced I had a gearbox on the way out and 100,000+ kms later... It got a lot quieter after I changed the gearbox oil.
They've gone pretty mad in Japanland too SD. Over the last 18 months prices have doubled, even tripled and more for some models. Doubly so with anything pre 96 because of the US 25 year import rule.sundodger5 wrote: »Still have an account with IBC looking at those prices i may have to go and see what is floating around the auctions.
That was a pretty good price for one even then. It's the guys who sold theirs or similar say five years ago for half that, or less. I feel for them alright.Normal One wrote: »I sold my 98 spec Integra Type R for €7 or 8k in 2009. It had a few scratches and bumps but was mechanically perfect. I’m stupid.
Going on the price madness, we have this rotten to the core DC1 1.6 with more issues than Time magazine going for 1500 quid, whereas this DC2 1.8 SiR that looks much cleaner going for 1200 It's got some trick parts on it already including the R bodykit. Throw in an LSD and you wouldn't be far off a R for a few grand. If I were in the market for something 90's JDM that's what I'd be doing. It's certainly more value IMHO than the 10 grand warmed up Civics of the same era out there.Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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Normal One wrote: »I sold my 98 spec Integra Type R for €7 or 8k in 2009. It had a few scratches and bumps but was mechanically perfect. I’m stupid.
I sold an immaculate Grade 4.5 98spec with 74k kms, Spoon ECU, Mugen intake, Mugen exhaust, HKS coilovers, genuine spoon CF front lip, crowhouse rear flap, super rare Wedssport TC005 16" wheels which were unmarked and like brand new and a load of other parts for €4600 in 2010. I will forever regret it.Meh, there were few enough who didn't have some sort of whine from the gearbox if you listened hard enough. When I imported mine a mechanic I knew was convinced I had a gearbox on the way out and 100,000+ kms later... It got a lot quieter after I changed the gearbox oil.
Going on the price madness, we have this rotten to the core DC1 1.6 with more issues than Time magazine going for 1500 quid, whereas this DC2 1.8 SiR that looks much cleaner going for 1200 It's got some trick parts on it already including the R bodykit. Throw in an LSD and you wouldn't be far off a R for a few grand. If I were in the market for something 90's JDM that's what I'd be doing. It's certainly more value IMHO than the 10 grand warmed up Civics of the same era out there.
Guarantee the seller will be looking for €7k+ for that Si-VTEC (Its not an SiR) Its a 93/94 Si-VTEC with a 96> front and a 98spec rear bumper. If the car is clean and mechanically sound then its worth €6k all day long.
Edit: I emailed him to ask about the car. Its safe to say that it should be in the dreamers thread as he says the price is €12950 - €13950 depending on VRT. I asked about the intake manifold and he says its an ITR IM (which wont bolt onto a P72 head so that means he doesn't know what engine is in it either) and that it may have ITR cams. He also thinks its running a standard ECU which is not possible as it would run very poorly on a P72 ECU due the lack of the secondary intake runners. So the engine is an unknown and could well be an ITR motor. It also has a S4C LSD box which would have been the box originally fitted to the Si-VTEC.
Anyway the car is miles overpriced and I cant see him getting ITR money for a 93 Si-VTEC despite it being a very nice looking car.0 -
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While I'm a total Honda head and have owned over 50 of them in my time, I have a real soft spot for the ST205 GT4 :pac:0 -
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I've done nearly 700 kms in mine this week and I hear you. Or rather I don't as my ears are still ringing.Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »As for the driving experience, yeah that's probably very true of many older cars. I have a 96spec DC2 which drives very nicely and handles well but I would hate to have to go any distance in it. I've done longer trips, one that was 900 odd kms in a day, with a couple of hours ferry trip in the middle to recuperate and then came back the next day. I was pretty fecked after that tbh. Relaxing it is not(though can return unreal MPG/Ltrs/Km sitting at 90/100). As well as the NVH, and they were raw when new, they change direction too easily and the steering is too light so your concentration levels have to be way higher than in say a Beemer(or mine are anyway). On the other hand you're never going to fall asleep at the wheel that's for sure... Less likely to get a speeding ticket too. Safety features.
That Celica is a bloody beauty. Nice to drive too. If I were looking for a weekend car and "investment" on the JDM front I'd be aiming at that way above say an EK9 R, which as we've seen with low mileage standard ones would be much more pricey(and they're even more frenetic).Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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They're both far more modern cars so there's that. The main difference being you don't have to cane the arse off them nearly as much to get the same or similar results, so it's far easier to dip into and out of "spirited driving" and they're not nearly as frenetic. I've had a go of a few Coopers and Cooper S's, not the softtop though. Nice cars, but found the steering pretty dead in feel and reliablity seems to be an issue with them? Though that might have just been the ones I've known. I was tempted by a DC5 back in the day and was going to buy so had a few days with one and for some reason never gelled with it.When i was driving my DC5 for a bit it after taking it out of storage it sounded awesome at 8,500 but wasnt that fast, was slower and didnt handle any better or feel any purer than say my wifes F57 Cooper S convertible which is a hoot to drive. I would take an ST fiesta for a blast down a backroad any day before a DC2/DC5.
That said I held onto my DC2 pretty much by mistake.
My intention had been to scratch an itch that started when I drove the Irish press car back in 98 and move it on after two or three years, but a set of oddball circumstances got in the way. If they hadn't I'd likely be in a diesel Beemer with all mod cons sporting an M pack. And badges. The 21st century Cortina Ghia for the middle aged, middle class suburban man Or a CRV. Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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It was the Tommi Makinen Mitzi that caught my eye.CarsandBikes wrote: »They seem to have some nice stock
A Lovely S202 Impreza there at the moment Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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I'm the opposite.Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »Funny they’re a car I never liked. I think they look terrible, sound terrible and have absolutely no appeal to me whatsoever. I’d take an Impreza over one of them any day of the week. Having driven different versions of both(before both became blobby) the Mitzi appealled to me in ways the Scooby didn't. The Subaru is the nicer looking car alright and sounds better but funny enough the bolt on boxy ugliness with the fireplace grill on top of the mundane four door base of the Evo makes me like it more.
It can be argued that it's the concern of a recession coming that's driving some of these prices as investments. This is being currently seen in all sorts of non car collectables too. Your ten or twenty grand sitting in a bank is earning feck all for you, but will get much better returns if you're buying a classic car/art/luxury goods at the right price. Bubbles tend to grow on borrowed money rather than spare cash or savings. The classic car bubble of the 80's was an example. The current growth doesn't seem to be driven by that.WhomadeGod wrote: »A recession must be well and truly not far around the corner with these prices complete insanity.
These things come in waves too as the buying market changes with the age demographic of the buyers. A while back it was the turn of the 80's hot hatches, which was mostly a European thing as the US didn't get that trend. Now it's the 90's JDM stuff, which the US did get and had a huge scene in it back in the day(Ireland and th UK similarly, though the rest of Europe pretty much didn't), to the degree that Hollywood noticed with the Fast and Furious flics. Video games have had a big influence too which is something new. Type any 90's JDM "icon" into Youtube search and you're nearly as likely to find gamer footage of one. So the 40 year olds today that either had one back in the day, or lusted after one, but couldn't afford it are now in a position to buy their nostalgia back. The problem being that supply is way below demand as like all classics they went through a dirt cheap/written off/rusted out stage and it wasn't worth keeping or repairing one. In the case of the JDM stuff the Japanese themselves are looking to their own heritage and looking for good examples. Then we got the pandemic which has pushed values up.
I'm not surprised they're rising in value, my shock comes from the sheer speed of it. I mean if you had 50k to spend even five years ago on a small stable of decent nick 90's JDM stuff, today you'd not be far off having quarter of a million's worth of kit. If you bought ten years ago you'd certainly have.Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/1998-daihatsu-mira-trxx-avanzato-r-turbo-660cc-/28523369
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I'd reckon 5k isn't too bad. They're a quirky very Japanese little car and I could see values rise on them. The Mighty Car Mods lads did a whole series on a rebuild/swap JDM for an AusDM market one so they'd be well known in some circles. I'd be tempted myself. Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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