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  • Registered Users Posts: 9 Crankypantz


    I read a report yesterday evening describing it as a black Saturday for limerick clubs.

    Just shows how on any day in any league anyone can be caught.

    Asan aside I watched ulster v ireland earlier. Great game.



  • Registered Users Posts: 379 ✭✭Lucas44


    Nothing certain about queens, only 3 points ahead after buccaneers getting a game called off an hour before kick off due to covid last week



  • Registered Users Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Chico Flores


    True enough - was more going off the size of their victories etc, but a fair point


    Good win for us on Friday in a fecking insanely cold Belfield. Christ Im only warmed up now. Just a bigger pack is all, but having seen both Trnity and UCD up close, and as the results have show, Trinity certainly a better side. More skillful players.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Stainalert


    That's an incredible win by Trinity over Young Munsters obviously helped by the red card for Munsters but very impressive none the less



  • Registered Users Posts: 9 Crankypantz


    Trinity a very good side. I wouldn't be surprised to see them in the shake but up at the end of the season.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Stainalert


    1A

    CLONTARF v DUBLIN UNIVERSITY - should be a really good game, Tarf to win

    LANSDOWNE v UCD - expecting UCD to get a load of their leinster players released so will be tough

    TERENURE COLLEGE v BALLYNAHINCH - Hard to see past Terenure although by all accounts Hinch should have beaten Con last week

    UCC v CORK CONSTITUTION - Cork Con to keep on winning

    YOUNG MUNSTER v GARRYOWEN - Both teams badly need a win to steady the ship - going with home advantage

    1B

    NAAS v ST MARY'S COLLEGE - Naas looked good away to Shannon - Marys to snatch it

    HIGHFIELD v CITY OF ARMAGH - No stopping Highfield

    MALONE v SHANNON - Tricky away game for Shannon but they should have enough

    OLD BELVEDERE v NAVAN RFC - Belvo seem to have been playing pretty without getting the wins but I think they will get the win v Navan

    OLD WESLEY v BANBRIDGE - Old Wesley quietly going about their business hoping for Highfield to slip up - more of the same this week



  • Registered Users Posts: 38 Purple Fox


    1A

    CLONTARF v DUBLIN UNIVERSITY - Calling the upset, Trinity

    LANSDOWNE v UCD - Peter Sullivan will make a big difference again, Lansdowne

    TERENURE COLLEGE v BALLYNAHINCH - Terenure finding the stride and think Hinchs' best chance of a win is at home

    UCC v CORK CONSTITUTION - Cork Con to win well

    YOUNG MUNSTER v GARRYOWEN - Limerick ties are always close but YM stronger on paper,

    1B

    NAAS v ST MARY'S COLLEGE - Naas

    HIGHFIELD v CITY OF ARMAGH - Highfield look a good side

    MALONE v SHANNON - Gonna go Malone, think they are settling into their squad with some more consistency, long trip for Shannon

    OLD BELVEDERE v NAVAN RFC - Belvo at home should be strong enough

    OLD WESLEY v BANBRIDGE - Old Wesley are top 2 team, them and Highfield to go up. Surprised at how poor ban are doing tho



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,158 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Any one at a game? Or able post up division 1 and 2 results?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭Bogwoppit


    Naas beat Mary’s 35-19 last night.



  • Registered Users Posts: 760 ✭✭✭Zeugnis


    Clontarf beat Trinity 27-7.

    Lansdowne beat UCD 48-15.

    Terenure beat Ballynahinch 39-0.

    Young Munster beat Garryowen 20-16.

    Con beat UCC 45-0.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭luke9311


    lansdowne winning 48-15..... not much to write home about in terms of how the game went other than the scoreline reflected it tbh. Cosgrave at 15 is a decent enough player... would love to see him come through the leinster fold if he doesnt get 7s tied



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭luke9311


    and on that point in the can anyone tell me is ucd hooker bobby sheehan is/ever was/or still is in the leinster academy does anyone know? he played today very very big guy



  • Registered Users Posts: 760 ✭✭✭Zeugnis


    Not AFAIK but @Lsdrugbyfan will know.

    Cullen has name checked him, but there was talk (i.e. forum speculation!) that he might get converted to another position. Given that the next decade will be a ding dong battle at hooker between his brother Dan and Ronan Kelleher., it's easy to see the logic in that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,158 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Not academy and wasnt ever full academy. sub academy i think for while.

    On Covid and teams having 0-0 draws. Interesting effect on division 2C now with Clonmel after 8 games have 4 draws. 2 from covid and theyve drawn 2 of the 6 games they have played. Skerries and Enniscorthy beginning to pull away at top of that division as well. theyre 12 and 10 clear of 3rd at this stage...

    Greystones looking very good in 2B. Just the 1 point dropped. 14 clear of second and their points difference is plus 232!!!

    Queens look quite likely to go up in 2A. Nenagh struggling fair bit at the bottom



  • Registered Users Posts: 882 ✭✭✭Lsdrugbyfan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,158 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Friday

    Division 1B

    Navan v Naas, Balreask Old, 8pm

    Division 2A

    Old Crescent v UL Bohemian, Takumi Park, 7:30pm

    Division 2B

    Malahide v Blackrock College, Estuary Road, 8pm

    Saturday

    Division 1A

    Ballynahinch v Lansdowne, Ballymacarn Park, 2:30pm

    Cork Constitution v Terenure College, Temple Hill, 2:30pm

    Dublin University v UCC, College Park, 2:30pm

    Garryowen v Clontarf, Dooradoyle, 2:30pm

    UCD v Young Munster, Belfield, 2:30pm

    Division 1B

    Banbridge v Old Belvedere, Rifle Park, 2:30pm

    City Of Armagh v Old Wesley, Palace Grounds, 2:30pm

    Shannon v Highfield, Thomond Park, 2:30pm.

    St. Mary’s College v Malone, Templeville Road, 2:30pm

    Division 2A

    MU Barnhall v Cashel, Parsonstown, 2:30pm

    Ballymena v Rainey Old Boys, Eaton Park, 2:30pm

    Dolphin v Nenagh Ormond, Musgrave Park, 2:30pm

    Queen’s University v Buccaneers, Dub Lane, 2:30pm

    Division 2B

    Dungannon v Belfast Harlequins, Stevenson Park, 2:30pm

    Galway Corinthians v Ballina, Corinthian Park, 2:30pm

    Sligo v Galwegians, Hamilton Park, 2:30pm

    Wanderers v Greystones, Merrion Road, 2pm

    Division 2C

    Bangor v Skerries, Upritchard Park, 2:30pm

    Bruff v Sundays Well, Kilballyowen Park, 2:30pm

    City Of Derry v Omagh Academicals, Judges Road, 2:30pm

    Clonmel v Enniscorthy, Ardgaoithe, 2:30pm

    Midleton v Tullamore, Towns Park, 2:30pm



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,158 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,158 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Bohs 28 Crescent 17. Fine crowd on cold night for a game. Not greatest of games but deserved win for visitors.


    Malahide Blackrock was 34-34 draw and Naas beat Navan 22-17



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,158 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Absolutely drenched after today,...

    Garryowen well beaten by Tarf who were well worth the win. very impressive by them. very dominant performance



  • Registered Users Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Hey boy


    With the exception of 2A (Queen’s and Ballymena) and Quinn’s in 2B why do the Ulster clubs not fare better in the AIL?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,689 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Quick question for people. How much are you being charged for entry to these games. It's been a tenner for Garryowen and half that for students and OAPs since the start of the season and the same at Young Munster 2 weeks ago, just wondering is it the same or more or less at other clubs? Fantastic value I should add



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,158 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Strange one. When league began 30 years ago it was Ballymena who were expected to dominate along with Wanderers, etc but they just didnt get what the Munster clubs had or would do.

    Tenner at nearly all games/grounds i go to - been to AIL games in Garryowen, Tarf, Nenagh, Buccaneers, Clontarf, Crescent and Corinthians this season so far. trinity generally dont charge b/c cant really but do have a donations bucket go round

    Dont think many/if any charge more than that



  • Registered Users Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Hey boy




  • Registered Users Posts: 38 Purple Fox


    Bateman Cup Semis this weekend: Armagh V Lansdowne and Young Munsters V Ballina



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,158 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Cant see Ballina or Armagh causing a shock but Armagh being at home gives them a better shot at doing that than Ballina.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,158 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Ballina concede to Young Munster due to covid



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,689 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    For anybody interested the Garryowen V Young Munsters match that was scheduled for 8pm on Friday the 21st it has now been moved to Saturday the 22nd at 2:30pm

    I presume this is due to the recent 8pm lockdown of hospitality



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,158 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Hopefully all games can get played this weekend

    2 games tomorrow night. bohs v crescent in 2A and Naas Navan in 1B.


    1A

    Clontarf v Garryowen

    Lansdowne v Ballynahinch

    Terenure v Cork Con

    UCC v Trinity

    Young Munster v UCD


    1B

    Highfield v Shannon

    Malone v St Marys

    Old Belvedere v Banbridge

    Old Wesley v Armagh


    2A

    Buccaneers v Queens

    Cashel v Barnhall

    Nenagh v Dolphin

    Rainey v Ballymena


    2B

    Galwegians v Sligo

    Ballina v Corinthians

    Belfast Harlequins v Dungannon

    Blackrock v Malahide

    Greystones v Wanderers


    2C

    Enniscorthy v Clonmel

    Omagh v City of Derry

    Skerries v Bangor

    Sundays Well v Bruff

    Tullamore v Midleton



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,158 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Bohs 15 Crescent 34

    Naas 29 Navan 7



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  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Mick Kearney starting for Tarf against Garryowen today.

    Tarf’s team as a whole is the strongest I think I’ve seen it this year.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,158 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Stainalert


    Leagues are really hotting up with some great matches this weekend

    1A

    BALLYNAHINCH v TERENURE COLLEGE - Terenure are flying at the moment, never easy at Hinch but Terenure will have enough

    CORK CONSTITUTION v UCC - Con badly need a win to get things going, think they will be too strong for the students

    DUBLIN UNIVERSITY v CLONTARF - Trinity apparently very strong this week - should be a cracker of a game. Going to go with Trinity

    GARRYOWEN v YOUNG MUNSTER - Great derby game which I think will go down to the wire with Munsters prevailing

    UCD v LANSDOWNE - Hearing UCD are strong this weekend - They have Scott Penny, Tommy O'Brien, Paddy Patterson apparently

    1B

    BANBRIDGE v OLD WESLEY - Banbridge showing some life recently but Wesley will have too much and will hold onto their No 1 spot

    CITY OF ARMAGH v HIGHFIELD - Should be a great battle. Highfield to edge it

    NAVAN RFC v OLD BELVEDERE - Belvo need to raise their game and I think will have too much for Navan

    SHANNON v MALONE - Shannon just off the back of 2 great results against Highfield should push on with a win

    ST MARY'S COLLEGE v NAAS - Very tight game 50/50 really, will go with Naas but only just



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,158 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Any thoughts on division 2 Stainalert? You only ever put up division 1 fixtures

    2A

    Ballymena v Bohs - Ballymena will want to keep pressure on queens in case they slip up and should get good win here

    Dolphin v Cashel - Cashel to edge it

    Barnhall v Buccaneers - Buccaneers

    Crescent v Nenagh - Nenagh had good win last week and may get another here which would bring them in striking distance of Crescent, Bohs to avoid the playoff with Rainey

    Queens v Rainey - Should be comfortable win for students who are looking more and more like theyll run away with division

    2B

    Corinthians v Galwegians - Corinthians in much better form tho form can go out window in derbies like this cant see wegians getting anything tonight

    Dungannon v Blackrock - Blackrock have more to play for and are in with good chance of playoff spot so may edge this

    Malahide v Ballina - Ballina to put gap between themselves and Malahide at bottom to 11 points with win here

    Sligo v Greystones - Should be very good game and Greystones to extend their lead at top

    Wanderers v Belfast Harlequins - Wanderers

    2C

    Bangor v Sundays Well - home win

    Bruff v Enniscorthy - league leaders to get away win

    City of Derry v Skerries - skerries

    Clonmel v Tullamore - tullamore

    Midleton v Omagh - midleton





  • Dan Goggin and Pa Campbell starting for Young Munster with Eoin O'Connor on the bench. I would imagine Garryowen will have the likes of Mark Donnelly, Cian Hurley, Jack Daly, Tony Butler available to them again this weekend and potentially Neil Cronin and Paddy Kelly who have all played for them this season. Should be a cracker.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Stainalert


    Great to see loads of players being released by the provinces to play AIL



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,158 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Corinthians 43 Wegians 15

    great having games streamed and with commentary. hope clubs can keep this up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,158 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond




  • Registered Users Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Hey boy


    Pity there aren’t Friday night games in 2A, 2B etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,158 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    2A has a fair few think 8 across season which is around same as 1B if not more than it. Division 2 far more geographically spread out so harder for clubs to have friday night games

    Easy to have a lot of Friday games in 1A when theres 5 clubs in 1 city, 2 in 2 other cities.



  • Registered Users Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Hey boy


    My own experience is that they are well attended but I understand the logistical problems for clubs.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Stainalert


    1A

    Lots of players playing URC this weekend that played AIL last weekend so a fair bit of change across most teams I suspect

    CLONTARF v UCC - Tarf to win easily

    CORK CON v BALLYNAHINCH - Con with a BP

    LANSDOWNE v GARRYOWEN - We will need a big improvement from last week to have a chance here

    TERENURE COLLEGE v UCD - Terenure will win well

    YOUNG MUNSTER v DUBLIN UNIVERSITY - I think Trinity might get the away win

    1B

    HIGHFIELD v BANBRIDGE - Highfield have slipped of late but will get back to winning ways

    MALONE v CITY OF ARMAGH - Tight game going to go with Armagh

    NAAS v SHANNON - 2 form teams - I think Naas will edge it

    NAVAN v ST MARY'S COLLEGE - Marys to win well

    OLD WESLEY v OLD BELVEDERE - Old Wesley on a roll and should have too much for Belvo



  • Registered Users Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Chico Flores


    Mighty win v UCD for us. But they were missing so many.

    But we are in a nice little groove. Team playing so well



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,158 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Some turn around for nenagh. Have struggled at times this season and lost to Ballymena before Christmas 46-12 and beat them this afternoon 41-7.

    Some gaps emerging in 1A. 12 points now between UCD and bottom 2 hinch, UCC. and UCD are 9 off Garryowen who are 7 off Trinity. Tarf 5 clear of Lansdowne. Con are 4th and their ability to get losing bonus point from every game theyve lost could be key to them making playoffs at seasons end

    Wesley now 6 clear at top of 1B. Highfield then 4 clear of Marys next. At bottom Banbridge and Navan both on 14 and 5 adrift of Malone. Could be very interesting how that plays out

    Queens look like they could run away with 2A and put 58 on Bohs in Limerick today and are 13 clear of Cashel who took advantage, very late on, of Ballymenas loss. Nenagh are thanks to their win and Bohs big defeat just 3 off the Limerick side and avoiding the relegation playoff.

    Greystones are 13 clear of the rest in 2B and scored 59 against Wegians today. very tight behind them with 6 points between the next 5. Corinthians are next on 39 just ahead of Rock on points difference with Wanderers and Belfast Quins 3 behind them and Sligo a further 3 points behind. Wegians 12 points off Ballina who are 9th after Malahides win over Corinthians lifted them out of the 9th/10th playoff.

    Some big gaps between top sides in 2C with the bottom very close. Enniscorthy 9 clear of Skerries who are 9 ahead of Tullamore and Bangor and then another 9 points between them and Omagh. While Sundays Well and Clonmel are currently in the drop zone on 13 and Derry are on 15 and Midleton 16.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,158 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Division 1A

    Clontarf 26 UCC 13

    Cork Constitution 26 Ballynahinch 15

    Lansdowne 46 Garryowen 5

    Terenure College 60 UCD 8

    Young Munster 8 Dublin University 27

    Division 1B

    Highfield 19 Banbridge 8

    Malone v Armagh Covid-19-affected match cancelled – 0-0. Both teams are awarded two points)

    Naas 38 Shannon 29

    Navan 28 St. Mary’s College 36

    Old Wesley 22 Old Belvedere 7

    Division 2A

    Cashel 22 Old Crescent 19

    Barnhall 50 Dolphin 24

    Nenagh Ormond 41 Ballymena 7

    Rainey Old Boys 3 Buccaneers 60

    UL Bohemians 5 Queen’s University 58

    Division 2B

    Ballina 19 Dungannon 28

    Belfast Harlequins 32 Sligo 22

    Blackrock College 31 Wanderers 26

    Galway Corinthians 17 Malahide 37

    Greystones 59 Galwegians 7

    Division 2C

    City of Derry 19 Midleton 20

    Enniscorthy 29 Bangor 25

    Omagh Academicals 6 Clonmel 8

    Sunday’s Well 14 Skerries 9

    Tullamore 28 Bruff 7



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,158 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Bateman Cup final scheduled to be played February 12th in Musgrave Park at 1.45pm

    Strange venue for a game between Young Munster and Lansdowne



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Stainalert


    IRFU had initially fixed it for St Marys for what I am told were very strong reasons and then following complaints from Young Munster the IRFU rugby committee changed it to Musgrave Park citing fairness and neutrality. The preference for neutrality seems to be relatively new as there used to be an option of tossing a coin for home advantage but that wasn't considered this time.

    Should be a great game if the AIL fixture earlier in the season is anything to go by.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,158 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Fair call to move from Marys but surprised Cork was selected. Portlaoise or Naas would have been better in between both

    Neutrality would be new ish concept tho it would have been in play for other finals at different stages.



  • Registered Users Posts: 308 ✭✭RuPi


    I imagine TV and commentary would have been an issue and potentially why they went to Musgrave. It is usually shown on RTE so presuming this would be the reason.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,158 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Comfortable win for Lansdowne.

    Not over but 46-6 lead with few minutes remaining



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