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What fertiliser to use

  • 03-06-2021 9:05pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 154 ✭✭ Matty6270


    Hi. I just got my meadow field soil sampled and I know I need a lot off lime, and my P is very poor. I need to spread fertiliser this weekend and need help on what to sow. I know it’s not going to be great but I am not sure what to go with.
    I’ve attached pc picture below
    Thanks

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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭ mahoney_j


    Matty6270 wrote: »
    Hi. I just got my meadow field soil sampled and I know I need a lot off lime, and my P is very poor. I need to spread fertiliser this weekend and need help on what to sow. I know it’s not going to be great but I am not sure what to go with.
    I’ve attached pc picture below
    Thanks

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/0vVGZ3VwJE0BpXbV-jh-wLMLQ[/IMG]

    3 t per acre of ground lime per acre first and foremost ,not much point spreading p and k till ph is corrected as won’t all be available to plant


  • Registered Users Posts: 154 ✭✭ Matty6270


    Yes but I can’t spread now as to close to cutting


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,865 ✭✭✭ orm0nd


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    3 t per acre of ground lime per acre first and foremost ,not much point spreading p and k till ph is corrected as won’t all be available to plant

    3 ton too much for 1 application

    I'd go 2 very max and something similar 3 to 4 years time


  • Registered Users Posts: 802 ✭✭✭ weatherbyfoxer


    time to improve p and k indexes is autum or winter,going out with compounds thid time of year only leads to grass soaking it up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,105 ✭✭✭✭ wrangler


    Matty6270 wrote: »
    Hi. I just got my meadow field soil sampled and I know I need a lot off lime, and my P is very poor. I need to spread fertiliser this weekend and need help on what to sow. I know it’s not going to be great but I am not sure what to go with.
    I’ve attached pc picture below
    Thanks

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/0vVGZ3VwJE0BpXbV-jh-wLMLQ[/IMG]

    150kgs/acre Cut sward and hope for the best, get the silage cut out of the way.
    Start with the lime then as soon after cutting as you can. It'll take years to get it right and longer if you're taking silage off it without putting back the slurry produced.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭ GrasstoMilk


    Matty6270 wrote: »
    Yes but I can’t spread now as to close to cutting

    Whats on the field currently? Crop of silage?


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,239 ✭✭✭✭ Bass Reeves


    Whats on the field currently? Crop of silage?

    And how farm from cutting

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users Posts: 154 ✭✭ Matty6270


    It has been eat off by sheep and topped. So I cud go with 3 bags of cut swarth ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭ mahoney_j


    Matty6270 wrote: »
    It has been eat off by sheep and topped. So I cud go with 3 bags of cut swarth ?

    3 bags gran lime first then 10 10 20’.gran lime will give a quick response but ground lime better long term


  • Registered Users Posts: 154 ✭✭ Matty6270


    Is it ok to put gran lime on now ? Just heard of guys before putting on lime with the fertiliser and when it was opened in the winter it was rotten

    So u think 3 bags of lime and how many off 10-10-20


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,824 ✭✭✭ Dunedin


    Matty6270 wrote: »
    Is it ok to put gran lime on now ? Just heard of guys before putting on lime with the fertiliser and when it was opened in the winter it was rotten

    So u think 3 bags of lime and how many off 10-10-20

    No issue in going with granlime now as well as fertiliser.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭ Hard Knocks


    Dunedin wrote: »
    No issue in going with granlime now as well as fertiliser.

    +1
    Worked for me without issue


  • Registered Users Posts: 154 ✭✭ Matty6270


    Put does it not take a long time for lime to work. I will be cutting in 6-7 weeks. It might not make a difference


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭ Hard Knocks


    Matty6270 wrote: »
    Put does it not take a long time for lime to work. I will be cutting in 6-7 weeks. It might not make a difference

    Not gran lime (spread with the fertilizer spreader) but it only lasts about 6 months
    Ground lime (spread with a lime spreader) should not be spread at the same time as other fertilizer and should not be spread within 3-6 months of cutting silage


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,239 ✭✭✭✭ Bass Reeves


    Matty6270 wrote: »
    Is it ok to put gran lime on now ? Just heard of guys before putting on lime with the fertiliser and when it was opened in the winter it was rotten

    So u think 3 bags of lime and how many off 10-10-20

    Often used granlime on silage ground it needs to be bare. 2 bags/ acre granlime. After that you need NPK. Depending on when you are cutting but you it 6-7 weeks time I go with 4 bags of 18-6-12/ acre.

    While K may be spread in autumn P should be spread in spring. With sheep I presume you have no slurry. From your soil test is you K at level three. If it is its ok.

    If you need P&K together change over to spreading 18-6-12 all the time. Get in slurry if you can but in reality you would want to be getting it for nothing to pay you.

    On lime ideally you need to spread in Spring to get real value a lot of the fine particles can be washed away on wet ground over the winter. What every you do get lime onto the farm

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users Posts: 644 ✭✭✭ Sugarbowl


    I put out gran lime between first and second cuts one year. Cows didn’t like the 2nd cut after it. Always wondered was it the lime... wouldn’t do it again anyway. Waited till after finished silage last year and spread it then. Great first cut this year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,824 ✭✭✭ Dunedin


    Sugarbowl wrote: »
    I put out gran lime between first and second cuts one year. Cows didn’t like the 2nd cut after it. Always wondered was it the lime... wouldn’t do it again anyway. Waited till after finished silage last year and spread it then. Great first cut this year.

    Don’t think granlime would have any bearing on it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,400 ✭✭✭ memorystick


    orm0nd wrote: »
    3 ton too much for 1 application

    I'd go 2 very max and something similar 3 to 4 years time

    No it’s not. It it needs 3 ton give it 3 ton. Penny wise and pound foolish.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭ Grueller


    No it’s not. It it needs 3 ton give it 3 ton. Penny wise and pound foolish.

    I was always led to believe by an advisor here that our type of land can only absorb 2 tonnes per acre at a time and if more is needed split it over multiple dressings a year apart.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭ J.O. Farmer


    No it’s not. It it needs 3 ton give it 3 ton. Penny wise and pound foolish.

    I don't think it's to do with cost. It's generally not reccomended to spread more than 2 ton in 1 application even where there's a bigger requirement. Another 2 ton could be spread 2 years later.


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