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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Jesus lads from reading this thread there's clearly alot of sour auld ones about. Many of the comments seem directed at the people participating themselves, leaving me to believe it's more a spite against these young people enjoying themselves than any actual disruption caused. 'i don't like this activity' so I need it banned for everyone.

    You can't bang on about leaving salthill and the likes open to car traffic yet condemn a type of car traffic you dislike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    No need for the apostrophe.

    S'althill Sunday's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Where? Certainly not in Salthill going by all other reports.





    Plaza


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,406 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    Jesus lads from reading this thread there's clearly alot of sour auld ones about. Many of the comments seem directed at the people participating themselves, leaving me to believe it's more a spite against these young people enjoying themselves than any actual disruption caused. 'i don't like this activity' so I need it banned for everyone.

    You can't bang on about leaving salthill and the likes open to car traffic yet condemn a type of car traffic you dislike.

    It wasn't traffic. It was an event. On a public road, where the participants rev car engines as a past time. Throw in the foul language, abusive behaviour and drinking and it's hardly the sort of group any locality would welcome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,010 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    Just a lovely bunch of lads out for a Sunday drive

    This is standard greeting anytime me or my coworkers pass each other during the day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭Fozzie Bear


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    Jesus lads from reading this thread there's clearly alot of sour auld ones about. Many of the comments seem directed at the people participating themselves, leaving me to believe it's more a spite against these young people enjoying themselves than any actual disruption caused. 'i don't like this activity' so I need it banned for everyone.

    You can't bang on about leaving salthill and the likes open to car traffic yet condemn a type of car traffic you dislike.

    Bit torn on this. I get the Boyz n Gurlz like their cars and want to show them off etc and maybe have an ould tour around. Its a pain in the hole for everyone else, but they pay their tax, insurance etc and have a right to drive and clog up the roads just like the rest of us.

    But I don't understand why they need to rev the sh1te out of them though. I know its to make noise through the stupid big exhaust, but why? What is the point of making noise and blowing big clouds of black smoke out of your diesel Passat?

    We had intended to go out to Barna woods with the Kids Sunday but gave up on that and went to the play ground beside the Cathedral instead on University Rd. The fcukin noise was absolutely unreal as they drove down towards the hospital from the Dyke Road and off out to Salthill on Newcastle rd. We had to stop talking at stages because you couldn't hear anything apart from cars and motorbikes blasting down the road.

    I don't want to be clutching my perals and worrying about the children here, but they passed the front door of the hospital doing this sh1te. And then long after they had passed by us in the playground you could still hear them reving and blowing horns going out along Newcastle Rd. For the guts of the 2 hours we were there this was going on. Past peoples front doors and homes having to listen to this on a Sunday. And the same thing on the way back in. For most of the day. Would they do the same outside their own home? No because their ould fella would come out and give them a shoe in the hole. So why is it OK to do it outside other peoples homes. Or a hospital? Its hugely disrespectful to everybody else.

    We also seen some of these twats leaning out the window and bellowing at women and girls walking on the foot path. Again whats that all about?

    Its sh1te like this that is going to piss everyone off and lead to the uproar we have now. They have killed it off themselves by their own actions.

    Its not about sour ould ones being spiteful. Its about them acting like entitled arseholes who don't care about everyone else. Don't give people a legitimate reason to be pissed off and you won't have any problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭empacher


    Galway Airporr seems like the perfect place for them. €5 in at the gate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,415 ✭✭✭jammiedodgers




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭klr87


    Can’t see how there breaking any laws apart from adding to the traffic. They’ve paid tax and insurance, as much right to use the roads and car parks as the dry robes
    What about all the other people who had presumably paid their tax and insurance as well, yet couldn't exercise their right to use the roads, for hours on end?

    This should be so blindingly obvious that it ought not have to be pointed out, but it seems it has to be. No-one has an unlimited right to use a limited resource. Nor are all competing claims on that resource equal.

    Also, picking on the swimmers is seriously lame. There's rarely more than a few dozen at a time along the prom, and some of them don't even drive. And even where they do, well, it's a beach: Do you have a problem with people using such an amenity?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,996 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Keith Finnegan reading out texts:
    I was blocked from going to the hospital for hours, stuck in traffic
    They can use the airport
    Discrimination against 'boy racers' who are entitled to be in Salthill too
    I was parked in Dyke Rd and could not get out
    They were drinking Buckfast Keith
    Purpose of the car meets is for the community to get together
    Why are N-plate holders allowed to have modified cars
    ....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,872 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Galway is a car-centric town. Local businesses and non local people living in the surrounding areas have vehemently opposed the reduction of parking and shunned improved pedestrian/cycle infrastructure in the city.

    Judging by the carry on & the vulgar decals on the cars I’d say most of the drivers are not urban dwellers. Most likely rural lads from the surrounding areas targeting the city to be seen.

    It’s unfortunate for locals. But massive car parks & pro car infrastructure is going to attract cars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,530 ✭✭✭Car99


    Galway a no go area for the summer , check.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,996 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Rumour: apparently there will be temporary speed humps installed on Upper Salthill entrances


  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    zell12 wrote: »
    Rumour: apparently there will be temporary speed humps installed on Upper Salthill entrances
    I saw a modified car get beached on one once.
    That might be an effective deterrent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Notch000


    They re indeed all country dweller who want to be unique and stand out from each other so they all drvie the same felt spec cars. Whats that ???

    (The below was stole from another car forumn)

    =================================================================================================

    Felt-Spec

    Felt spec is said to have originated in and is named after the town Magherafelt in county Derry,Ireland,if you click on the Magherafelt wiki page you will see a 'felt spec golf in the town centre picture - brilliant!

    'Felt spec is the art of badly modifying a VAG (VW Audi group) diesel car.

    THE CARS OF FELT
    __________________________________________________ ______________

    the most popular being Audi A4,VW Bora or passat and Seat toledo.It is not quite clear why the 'original 'felt spec'ers choose these cars to start with but it is probably down to the world beating performance of the TDI lump,lets examine some of the positives the 'felt spec'ers might have found appealing

    - So much torque that the word torque was actually invented to describe this engine.

    - Tow bar friendly,an essential 'felt spec accessory as most 'felters are farmers by day

    - The ultimate Q car.

    - Sits 4 farmers comfortably,or a family of 5 en route to GAA match,rally event or truck or bike show

    - As we have found out this year neither the big freeze nor the big floods (i.e the lord himself) could stop this engine.

    - large rear windscreen for macra na feirme sticker and local GAA club membership sticker,or that 3 ft by 3 ft VW/Audi decal just in case we were unaware.

    - Le mans winning technology involved in the R&D of the mighty in 4 cyl lump.

    - A simple re-map will make the car eligible for the BTCC

    In the interest of fairness let's examine some of the negatives (yes i know even the great aren't perfect)

    Probably the most imitated car on the road,you will no doubt see 10 other 'wanna be' TDI's with fake red badges on your daily commute.(but this will lend itself to a certain smugness factor knowing you are driving the real deal) Dual mass flywheels are an issue,but look at the torque figures! even mother earth gives tectonic plate trouble - you can't try and tap such power without consequences!

    THE ART OF FELT
    __________________________________________________ _______________

    So how does a novice identify a felt spec car you ask? well common 'felt spec attributes are as follows:

    - over sized sun visors: the rule of 'felt states that the gap between the bottom of your sunvisor and the bottom of the windscreen should be equal to the distance between your wrist and your elbow.Some 'felters will also choose to incorporate a catchy slogan on their sun visor such as 'Drive her like yer late for mass' or 'driveher like its stolen'

    - wind deflectors: wind deflectors are a must on a 'felt spec car.The rule of 'felt states "he who tries to smoke a fag while crusing with 320 ft lbs of torque under the bonnet will get burnt"

    - Yellow rear reg plates: one of the most identifiable traits of a 'felt spec car even amongst their southern 'brothers in VAG',the most popular county for this is Donegal which believe it or not has more Yellow plates per head of population that London.

    - Lowered suspension: The more affluent 'felter will splash out on coilovers,but everyone this side of cloughjordan knows thats just crazy,take the springs out and cut them.The rule of 'felt states "thou shall not be able to see the tops of your tyres"

    -Mud Flaps: Originally thought to have been an essential modification due to the farm based lifestyle of the original 'felters but now the first purchase any aspiring 'feltee should make,ditch the factroy flaps and and add scania flaps,the rule of 'felt states "Your flaps should be at all times in contact with the ground and that your tyres should last longer than your mudflaps)

    -The 18" replica wheel:This is what sets the 'felter apart from the crowd,the choice of wheel is crucial in determining your status on the 'felt ladder of whack-ness,the popular choices have always been RS6 or A8 wheels (known amongst 'felters as an RS8 wheel,as apparently they are so close to the Audi inner circle that Audi let them see that holy grail of cars the Audi RS8 ). The more daring 'felt sec enthusiasts will fit a bolder wheel choice though and emerging favourites are new shape RS4 and S8 rims.Recently there has been a stunning development in the rim choice of 'felters with Merc rims appearing on VAG cars,this is a kin to Ian paisley attending an ulster final!

    - The body kit: No one knows the name,some say it is a quattro kit,some say it is an Rs4 kit,whatever the name the bodykit is essential in a 'felters arsenal especially if they are driving an A4,the rule of 'felt states "thou bodykit shall be fibre glass,thou grilles should be chicken wire and one exhaust tip should always be fake and for show"

    - Badge: The 'felter is only as big as his badge and the better the badge the bigger the micky,If you have an A4 you must stick on either an S4 badge,or an RS4 badge.The biggest offenders here are drivers of B6 A4's again here we see links between 'felt spec enthusiasts and the Audi inner circle as they and they alone were made aware of a B6 RS4.If you drive a golf then a GT badge is a must,there aint no party like a GT TDI party.



    THE TALK OF FELT
    __________________________________________________ _______________

    'Felters have their own language and to the outsider it can appear they are talking gobbledygook,here we go through some common 'felt spec phrases:

    Lad - A person i.e you,usage: "That is some car lad" - The rule of 'felt states you should always try to finish a sentence with Lad

    Lift- The application of Torque,said to arise from the way the arse of the car dips and the bonnet rises when the shoe is put it in,usage: "There is some lift out of her Lad"

    Antichrist- A word use to describe a particularly fast 'felt spec machine,one which has been remapped,lowered and perhaps fitted with an induction kit,usage "There is some lift out of her lad,she's an Antichrist to go"



    =====================================================================================

    There you have it,i hope this article was able to answer all the questions you were always afraid to ask about 'felt spec and what is it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭klr87


    It wasn't traffic. It was an event. On a public road, where the participants rev car engines as a past time. Throw in the foul language, abusive behaviour and drinking and it's hardly the sort of group any locality would welcome.
    This goes right to the heart of the matter. If the organisers had to get permission (and they surely should have to), then there is no way this would have been allowed. Compared to all the other types of events mentioned (matches, concerts, air shows), the amount and severity of disruption to traffic and normal life and business was massively out of proportion to the number of people participating, and absolutely unacceptable in absolute terms. That's without even considering the various anti-social aspects which were seemingly integral to the event. Benefits to Salthill/Galway that could possibly offset this? None that I can see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭micah537


    If people think this is bad, wait until the pubs open up properly. It'll be similiar to middle age people's rag week.

    Also the car scene has gotten really bad. I remember going to car shows back in 2007 (Japfest and the Limerick racecourse one) for a few years onwards. These cars would have be ridiculed.
    The day of Skylines, Evos, Chasers, Rx7 and Supras, meeting seem long gone dispute these cars still existing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Makes you wonder where all the glanzas and gt starlets went.
    Did they all get baled in Galway metal.haven’t seen one in years.there was a time and you couldn’t leave the house without tripping over one of them


  • Registered Users Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Mearings


    What is the insurance position with these racers? I believe that as soon a car is modified in any way the insurance company has to be informed.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 223 ✭✭pinktoe


    Mearings wrote: »
    What is the insurance position with these racers? I believe that as soon a car is modified in any way the insurance company has to be informed.

    Insurance companies will cover modified cars. I've a heavily tuned Supra insured with AXA with a 5k km limit. It is cheaper to insure than my 181 Jag XJ which is completely standard except for a remap.

    Since I pay nearly 5 times more tax on the Supra than the Jag, I will drive it where I want when I want. I won't ever be in Salthill with it as I have no interest in Golf's, but for people to think they can ban certain cars that are taxed, insured and NCT'd is ridiculous. Laws exist around excessive noise.

    Let the Gardai hand out fines to anyone revving an excessively loud exhaust and take any cars that aren't taxed/insured/NCT'd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,872 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    I don't think there was one car in Galway at the weekend as cool as a Supra.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭micah537


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    I don't think there was one car in Galway at the weekend as cool as a Supra.

    I went through the pics on their FB page. They had a grey Gtr and the previous week a Lambo was in the Headford Road retail park, but yeah generally the cars were pretty bad.


  • Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭DrFunkatron


    Surely the airport is the answer to this, keeps them out of the city and somewhere for them to have their meets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭micah537


    Surely the airport is the answer to this, keeps them out of the city and somewhere for them to have their meets.

    They'd happily take the airport but they won't be given the place.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Surely the airport is the answer to this, keeps them out of the city and somewhere for them to have their meets.

    What happens when the meet is over?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭DrFunkatron


    What happens when the meet is over?

    They go on to live their lives happily booing down the road obviously


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 Somepeople


    micah537 wrote: »
    They'd happily take the airport but they won't be given the place.

    That's true. A couple of vintage clubs tried to use it before and they wouldn't let them.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Statement from the organisers from here
    Late but here are the photos from our Infamous meet from our 4th Salthill Sunday.

    Ladies & Gentlemen you have made it bigger and better than the last without any messing.

    Quick message regarding the comments and hate we have been getting.

    We will not be responding to mean and hateful comments, ye have put us down but believe us when we say it, You have motivated us to make a change.

    We will not be stopping our Meets/Events until we get what we all car enthusiasts want,
    Which is a Venue that will accommodate us all without your pettiness and complaints.


    We are working hard to secure us a location to host our Meets and for us to enjoy our time.

    Anyone that would like to get in contact with us to help organise a location PM us

    As to what the radio stations are saying, we will not be commenting about that.

    Regarding the encouraging and kind messages, Thank you, really and truly ,Thank you.

    We are reading them all kind messages and for that we are grateful.
    Don’t to forget to have your cars clean for this Sunday!
    From the guys at Salthill Sunday's
    Keep updated with us by following our
    Snapchat, Tik Tok & Instagram Pages!
    Salthill Sunday's

    Highlighted a section which, for all intents and purposes, sounds like a threat/blackmail to me, but maybe I'm wrong, what do others think?

    Anyway, the next meet is set for this Sunday.

    I know where I won't be going for a cycle this Sunday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,113 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Statement from the organisers from here



    Highlighted a section which, for all intents and purposes, sounds like a threat/blackmail to me, but maybe I'm wrong, what do others think?

    Anyway, the next meet is set for this Sunday.

    I know where I won't be going for a cycle this Sunday

    Car culture is a big thing in this country, its mad that there isn't more facilities to cater for this. A lot of money to be made too. They're within their rights to cruise along salthill and clog up the roads though.

    Should build a proper racetrack in the Greater Dublin Area. Call it the Naas-burgring


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,996 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Why are they targeting Salthill as opposed to Headford or Ballinasloe?

    I foresee some Public Order units popping down this weekend


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭dmakc


    Why do tinted-window enthusiasts prefer to rev engines at a salthill standstill instead of something like an open road or coastal drive. The more popular this gets the more diminishing their returns will be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭klr87


    Statement from the organisers from here



    Highlighted a section which, for all intents and purposes, sounds like a threat/blackmail to me, but maybe I'm wrong, what do others think?

    Anyway, the next meet is set for this Sunday.

    I know where I won't be going for a cycle this Sunday
    It sounds like they really don't give a damn, do they? Not even the remotest hint of empathy or contrition for having completely wrecked last Sunday for many thousands of people? Worse than that, they seem defiantly and aggressively proud of the fact.


    And yes, it's plainly a threat. They want to be rewarded for their loutish behaviour. Entitlement culture doesn't even begin to describe it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    klr87 wrote: »
    It sounds like they really don't give a damn, do they? Not even the remotest hint of empathy or contrition for having completely wrecked last Sunday for many thousands of people? Worse than that, they seem defiantly and aggressively proud of the fact.


    And yes, it's plainly a threat. They want to be rewarded for their loutish behaviour. Entitlement culture doesn't even begin to describe it.


    Entitlement indeed, you seem to think you're a lot more entitled to be on the prom than someone else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,512 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    dmakc wrote: »
    Why do tinted-window enthusiasts prefer to rev engines at a salthill standstill instead of something like an open road or coastal drive. The more popular this gets the more diminishing their returns will be.

    Because they're idiots?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    A statement of support from "Galway Car Culture" from here

    Well, maybe not a "statement" so much as word vomit, anyway, enjoy
    Please Share Around
    I want all of Galway to see this

    Just want to make a post in relation to Salthill Sunday's. I just want anyone who has an opinion on the matter to read this and see what they think before commenting or passing blame to anyone.

    In Galway, for the past few years, the car community has gotten a lot of hassle from the public. There have been stages where certain people, not even trouble makers, couldn't drive there car into Galway because certain member of the Guards would target them. This wasn't a situation of people messing, making noise, speeding or anything this was certain Guards and if you are aware of who they are you know who I am talking about, would single out every car that was modified just to do them although they weren't even causing hassle.

    In the past 2.5/3 years, the car community in Galway was getting more traction and we were kind of fighting back, not causing hassle but having our meets, doing up our cars to the way we wanted them to be, making Facebook pages, Instagrams, snapchats getting a following and doing what we love to make us happy.

    Most of time, they were great, but as always 2 things ruined it. Bad eggs ruining the craic for everyone by always taking things that one step too far. We don't want people acting the fool at meets, they draw attention of guards, local residence, Galway Bay FM, the local news outlets and get us all painted as public nuisances and hooligans to the public. It was happening almost every single time, but nobody ever got hurt, nobody died, there was no reason for this public out-cry that 'boy racers' (which by the way most of us hate that term so don't use it) were terrible people.

    The other thing that ruined was the Guards. Now don't get me wrong, I have great respect for law enforcement in Ireland. Theres gonna be one day that you will need it, and it will be there. But how come I rock up in either The Galway Shopping Centre by Tesco or The Galway Retail Park by McDonalds, meet 2 maybe 3 of our friends in there and within 20 mins there would be guards questioning us, looking at my car or my friends car (that are more than likely off and parked) and ask us to leave Galway City. I'm parked, eating food, talking to a friend, what hassle am I causing on anyone? Just leave us be. But also, how come every time you arrive at a meet thats when all hell breaks loose. You intimidate us until we leave Galway and it is not fair.

    I have tried to make contact with the council before which I also have a post up about, did I hear any reply? No. I never did. All I got was a receipt of acknowledgement for my email. Cheers, Thanks for that. Thats why I more or less gave this up after a while. I was trying to make things different in Galway but with no cooperation from the side I am trying to work with, how am I to anything?

    The guys at Salthill Sunday's had a fantastic idea. They were inspired from the people in Northern Ireland, with their idea for Port Sunday's. I heard it first and I really really liked the idea. I thought that this was it now, something we could do that wouldn't cause much fuss, make something of our weekend. The first 2 weekends, I couldn't attend but they looked like they were good fun, no hassle on anyone just cars being drove around salthill, getting their pictures taken. That was ideally what I would've loved to have seen for the car scene in Galway. But you've to think this was an amateur organised event, which is completely fine and allowed but it wasn't always going to be planned perfectly.

    There was going to be problems which there was and we have all seen.
    The weekend we have just seen, was probably my biggest let down from the city of Galway, we have had severe problems with our traffic for years, the only way to go from one side of the city to another is through the town. Now, I will say here and now, Salthill Sunday's did cause a lot of extra traffic in Galway on Sunday, understandably it was a big event. But how can you as news outlets, politicians, members of the council, go on Facebook and any other social media platform and blame it all on this event. Wasnt Galway supposed to be "European Capital of Culture 2020"? Last year weren't we supposed to be having loads of events, celebrating all aspects of the culture and differences that exist in our city? How were we gonna deal with that with so many people travelling to come see this if we can't handle something involving a couple of hundred cars? That seems to me like you've played yourself. How come it takes over an hour and a half to drive from Loughrea to Parkmore, Monday to Friday, every morning, when you are driving from the east of the county to one of the most easterly points in the city? Biggest cop out of an excuse ever.

    Now, on behalf of the car community I want to apologise to the man that we all heard of on the radio that had to get an air ambulance to the hospital as the traffic was too bad. To that one man, that one person who's life couldve been affected by this, I'd like to say we are all very sorry and hope that this man we don't know is doing okay.

    But he is the only person who deserves an apology. If you live on the outskirts of town near Bothar na dTreabh and were affected by noise, I'm sorry but what did you expect? You live beside a dual carriageway.

    If you live in Salthill, you live in one of the biggest tourist attractions in our city, every Galway match day at Pearse Satdium I can almost guarantee the traffic is worse. Give over, just because you don't like cars just ignore it.
    My thing about this is we need help, big help, we need to reach out and need people to reach out to us. We need ideas, we need correspondence from the council and communities. I seen a lady tell us to stay where we are from because we are not wanted in Sathill and told us to stay in our towns and at home. Sorry but like we have been doing that for almost a year and a half do you really think we haven't stayed at home enough.

    So I'm leaving this post as an avenue for people to help and reach out and contact us with your ideas. Anyone from the council or any politicians or organisations that want to help the car scene in Galway please contact our email GalwayCarCulture@gmail.com and any individuals who have any ideas or want to get involved message the page.

    I'm open for any ideas, Connemara Cruises, Beach Meets, Car meets, ANYTHING. But I need to know that we aren't going to getting in trouble for anything. We aren't gonna be blacklisted in Galway.

    So please, anyone who has read this far, please like and share and tag this post and get it as much traction and make us proud of what we want.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭xxyyzz


    A boy racer wrote off my car in a head-on collision back in December, I came around a blind bend on a narrow road and there he was trying to take a racing line on the wrong side of the road. One second later and I would have been dead. I cannot understand how insurance companies will insure a 20 year old in a type R integra. A car like that in a 20 year old's hands is a weapon and a 20 year old in a car like that is a fu*king eejit. I have zero sympathy for these lads, there are plenty of risky pastimes that don't endanger other road users if you're looking for a thrill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭klr87


    Entitlement indeed, you seem to think you're a lot more entitled to be on the prom than someone else.
    I have the exact same entitlement as anyone else - and likewise, the same responsibility to use that in a way that does not unreasonably infringe on the entitlement of others,


    BTW, I don't drive. However, that does not mean I wasn't affected directly affected by what happened last Sunday, and not just on the Promenade. I'd like to have gone for a walk in the countryside to the north and west of Salthiill, but it would have been too dangerous, as some of the racers were on those roads as well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    klr87 wrote: »
    I have the exact same entitlement as anyone else - and likewise, the same responsibility to use that in a way that does not unreasonably infringe on the entitlement of others,


    BTW, I don't drive. However, that does not mean I wasn't affected directly affected by what happened last Sunday, and not just on the Promenade. I'd like to have gone for a walk in the countryside to the north and west of Salthiill, but it would have been too dangerous, as some of the racers were on those roads as well.
    xxyyzz wrote: »
    A boy racer wrote off my car in a head-on collision back in December, I came around a blind bend on a narrow road and there he was trying to take a racing line on the wrong side of the road. One second later and I would have been dead. I cannot understand how insurance companies will insure a 20 year old in type R integra. A car like that in a 20 year old's hands is a weapon and a 20 year old in a car like that is a fu*king eejit. I have zero sympathy for these lads, there are plenty of risky pasttimes that don't endanger other road users if you're looking for a thrill.



    So, in order to complain about *checks notes* - slow moving traffic blocking the prom last sunday - you two have brought up 'dangerous racers' and an unrelated crash on some narrow road? was dangerous racing part of sundays problem? Was this narrow road the salthill prom or nearby roads last sunday?



    You are both shrieking out absolute balderdash because you don't like modified cars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    Entitlement indeed, you seem to think you're a lot more entitled to be on the prom than someone else.

    You're 100% right. The cheek of those people, thinking they're entitled to a nice walk by the seaside, when you have a massive exhaust on your car that absolutely needs to be revved to the max for 4 hours and shown off to its full potential. That's your right!

    And as for those food businesses, trying to survive the pandemic by delivering food to their customers before it goes cold, for feck sake... what right have they to be complaining when you have as much right to deliberately organise a traffic jam? Eh!

    It's disgusting aright, how entitled those people are! Disgusting!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Zzippy wrote: »
    You're 100% right. The cheek of those people, thinking they're entitled to a nice walk by the seaside, when you have a massive exhaust on your car that absolutely needs to be revved to the max for 4 hours and shown off to its full potential. That's your right!

    And as for those food businesses, trying to survive the pandemic by delivering food to their customers before it goes cold, for feck sake... what right have they to be complaining when you have as much right to deliberately organise a traffic jam? Eh!

    It's disgusting aright, how entitled those people are! Disgusting!


    So... you do believe some are more entitled to the use of public spaces than others, that's fair enough and your right.

    I presume you will direct the same Ire at the GAA the next time there's a big match on, and at all those damn pesky international tourists when they get back here, ****, using a public space.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭klr87


    So, in order to complain about *checks notes* - slow moving traffic blocking the prom last sunday - you two have brought up 'dangerous racers' and an unrelated crash on some narrow road? was dangerous racing part of sundays problem? Was this narrow road the salthill prom or nearby roads last sunday?



    You are both shrieking out absolute balderdash because you don't like modified cars.
    Hyperbole much? I've no problem with them at all. It's what people do with them is the problem. I've frequently gone to the annual vintage car displays by the Spanish Arch, and the displays of high-end sports cars on the Prom. All well-regulated and well-run events.



    Nor was I referring to any specific crash from last Sunday - never mentioned it - but to what several people who live in the countryside told me, about what they saw (and heard) in their localities during last Sunday afternoon and evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,607 ✭✭✭wassie


    Maybe GalwayCarCulture may look towards his 30+ compatriots a couple of weeks back who thought it is acceptable to create a huge ruckus, drive dangerously on both sides of the road, blacken carparks & cause general havoc at midnight at our local village just outside Galway a few weeks back for some answers to their questions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    klr87 wrote: »
    Hyperbole much? I've no problem with them at all. It's what people do with them is the problem. I've frequently gone to the annual vintage car displays by the Spanish Arch, and the displays of high-end sports cars on the Prom. All well-regulated and well-run events.



    Nor was I referring to any specific crash from last Sunday - never mentioned it - but to what several people who live in the countryside told me, about what they saw (and heard) in their localities during last Sunday afternoon and evening.

    Are you sure?

    klr87 wrote: »
    I have the exact same entitlement as anyone else - and likewise, the same responsibility to use that in a way that does not unreasonably infringe on the entitlement of others,


    BTW, I don't drive. However, that does not mean I wasn't affected directly affected by what happened last Sunday, and not just on the Promenade. I'd like to have gone for a walk in the countryside to the north and west of Salthiill, but it would have been too dangerous, as some of the racers were on those roads as well.


    so what is your beef with last sunday then? if you have no beef with it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭newuser99999


    So... you do believe some are more entitled to the use of public spaces than others, that's fair enough and your right.

    I presume you will direct the same Ire at the GAA the next time there's a big match on, and at all those damn pesky international tourists when they get back here, ****, using a public space.

    Ah yes people drinking, hanging from windows, revving engines non stop for hours, screaming at people walking by, and urinating in public is really the same as people leaving a GAA match that they’ve paid to go and see and has been organized with Gardai involved sorting traffic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Ah yes people drinking, hanging from windows, revving engines non stop for hours, screaming at people walking by, and urinating in public is really the same as people leaving a GAA match that they’ve paid to go and see and has been organized with Gardai involved sorting traffic.

    ehh...... You can be damn sure of most of that on a big enough match day, and don't forget to add - aggressive excessive flag waving and aggressive horn beeping too. What does them giving money to the GAA have to do with it, does that add extra entitlement to the use of public roads or something?

    sorting traffic indeed.... have you ever tried to go down the prom on a county final day for example?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭newuser99999


    ehh...... You can be damn sure of most of that on a big enough match day, and don't forget to add - aggressive excessive flag waving and aggressive horn beeping too. What does them giving money to the GAA have to do with it, does that add extra entitlement to the use of public roads or something?

    sorting traffic indeed.... have you ever tried to go down the prom on a county final day for example?

    Aggressive flag waving I’ve heard it all hahahahahhahaha.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    So... you do believe some are more entitled to the use of public spaces than others, that's fair enough and your right.

    I presume you will direct the same Ire at the GAA the next time there's a big match on, and at all those damn pesky international tourists when they get back here, ****, using a public space.

    The GAA matches cause traffic congestion. But the GAA aren't organising an inter-county championship match for every Sunday for the summer. They also work with security companies, and pay the Gardai for policing. They have incident management plans, safety statements. They don't threaten to block up traffic every Sunday unless they're given a venue. They fund raised and bought venues all over the country to accommodate their games. They lease venues from local authorities.

    You see, rights are not absolute, they also come with responsibilities. If exercising your rights infringes on the rights of others, and you can't see that, or don't give a ****, well don't expect any sympathy when your rights are taken away.


  • Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭Redkite200


    ehh...... You can be damn sure of most of that on a big enough match day, and don't forget to add - aggressive excessive flag waving and aggressive horn beeping too. What does them giving money to the GAA have to do with it, does that add extra entitlement to the use of public roads or something?

    sorting traffic indeed.... have you ever tried to go down the prom on a county final day for example?

    Maybe start a new thread about GAA matchgoers and the associated issues they cause then seeing as you're obviously quite perturbed by the issue?

    This thread relates to the noise nuisance and related antisocial behaviour by 'boy racers' in the City (and surrounding areas).


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Aggressive flag waving I’ve heard it all hahahahahhahaha.

    so have I :pac:
    Ah yes people drinking, hanging from windows, revving engines non stop for hours, screaming at people walking by, and urinating in public is really the same as people leaving a GAA match that they’ve paid to go and see and has been organized with Gardai involved sorting traffic.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭newuser99999


    so have I :pac:

    Are you trying to say it’s not happening?


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