Australian jailed for filming dying officers

Heckler

May have missed a thread. Couldn't find one in a search.

What a special vile piece of prick.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-56910687

Got off far too lightly in my estimation.

When any decent minded person with an ounce of empathy would be trying to provide assistance and comfort this ****bag does this.

listermint

Evidently a complete sociopath

Snotty

Hopefully he has ruined his life and won't ever get away from what he did, what a hateful ****

frozenfrozen

Awful


you have to admire the 22 year sentence given to the truck driver who crashed into them

he'd be out after what about 4 years here?

Westernyelp

What a vile excuse for a human.

Heckler

"Last month, Judge Trevor Wraight said the media had demonised Pusey to the point where he was "probably the most hated man in Australia".

Aw poor lad. Judge Wraight ever consider it was his actions that made him such ? If the media helped then even better.

Be right back

Disgusting individual. Extremely light sentence.

Stihl waters

An arsehole in finance driving a Porsche turns out to be a low life scum bag, its like he found the job for his personality

Overheal

There's 'oh my god, someone is dying, I should document this for litigation or whatever' and there's what this convicted asshole did. Appalling. No effort to help or lend comfort, quite the opposite in several regards.

Be right back

Overheal wrote: »

There's 'oh my god, someone is dying, I should document this for litigation or whatever' and there's what this convicted asshole did. Appalling. No effort to help or lend comfort, quite the opposite in several regards.

And refuse to help the dying when asked to do so by other bystanders.

gmisk

10 months seems ridiculous, seriously horrendous behaviour

Heckler

I really hope this is appealed. Surely a petition will be organised (for what its worth but they can work). I rarely get too exercised but this appalled me.

Donald Trump

There was a case in the US where a teenager filmed a disabled man drowning instead of helping him.

He got off because the judge said there was no legal obligation to help

biko

The mortgage broker had been speeding in his car on a Melbourne freeway last year when he was pulled over by four officers.

While they were making his arrest, all four were struck by a lorry that had veered out of its lane.

Senior Constables Lynette Taylor and Kevin King, and Constables Glen Humphris and Josh Prestney died at the scene.

Pusey had been standing a few metres away and avoided the crash, but afterwards pulled out his phone and began filming numerous videos, some of which ran for more than three minutes.

What a sicko. Lock up, throw away key.

Samuel T. Cogley

Donald Trump wrote: »

There was a case in the US where a teenager filmed a disabled man drowning instead of helping him.

He got off because the judge said there was no legal obligation to help

That's first year law sadly. There is no obligation to help in most common law countries AFAIK. Some US states have certain laws but again AFAIK they are only if you've started a rescue.

biko

The lorry driver, Mohinder Singh, was jailed earlier this month to 22 years for the deaths.

A court found that the truck driver had been high on drugs, suffering delusions and hallucinations, and driving erratically when he ploughed his truck into the officers.

What a ****ed up way to go. Hit by a crazed druggie and then an even crazier druggie videos you as you die.

RIP officers. At least your killer got what he deserved.

AmyMurphy22

Donald Trump wrote: »

There was a case in the US where a teenager filmed a disabled man drowning instead of helping him.

He got off because the judge said there was no legal obligation to help

Have you heard of Peter Singer's shallow pond argument?
In summary: You would be a monster to walk past a child drowning in a shallow pond simply because you don't want to get your new expensive suit ruined. You would be expected to save their life, even if you lose the $200 suit. BUT since it is so easy in the year 2021 to save a life for $200 (by donating to Against Malaria Foundation etc), why is it not equally morally wrong to spend $200 on a suit/games/a meal etc. You could save MANY lives instead. Do you have an obligation to do so? Why is this so different?

karlram

He said a lot more than what is being put out in the media. A lot worse too.
Day after the accident he arrived at his office to find it vandalised... called the police and wanted them to protect him. SCUM doesn't even come close.
He actually fled the scene too. Then sent the videos to 3 friends. One of which was a cop. So not only is he a spineless low life he's a massive dope into the bargain. Laws need to be changed around this

Heckler

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

That's first year law sadly. There is no obligation to help in most common law countries AFAIK. Some US states have certain laws but again AFAIK they are only if you've started a rescue.

I don't know how widespread the Good Samaritan law is worldwide but you would hope that wouldn't be the only barrier stopping from helping someone in need. To use a phone to film even after contacting emergency services should be a crime unless it was a hopeless situation and the person filming was doing so for evidential reasons. And in this day and age how likely is that. Its for likes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fjo1i2f9-vM


I was watching an older docu on All4 about UK police being attacked the other day. Scumbags standing round filming and laughing. Be brave boys if they had armed police willing to shoot them.

archfi

10 months for that is a joke IMO and made even worse that the judge knew he'd be out in a few days as he's been on remand for well, 10 months.

Hercule Poirot

Yeah hard to disagree with the sentiment that Pusey is a pathetic excuse for a human being

I see Pusey threw out the mental health card to justify his actions, something that seems to be more and more common - obviously his mental health issues couldn't be bad if he's able to retain a job that affords him a Porche

A despicable low life and that sentence should have been quadrupled at a minimum

Donald Trump

AmyMurphy22 wrote: »

Have you heard of Peter Singer's shallow pond argument?
In summary: You would be a monster to walk past a child drowning in a shallow pond simply because you don't want to get your new expensive suit ruined. You would be expected to save their life, even if you lose the $200 suit. BUT since it is so easy in the year 2021 to save a life for $200 (by donating to Against Malaria Foundation etc), why is it not equally morally wrong to spend $200 on a suit/games/a meal etc. You could save MANY lives instead. Do you have an obligation to do so? Why is this so different?

To be fair, someone considers $200 to be an expensive suit probably hasn't got $200 to spare to be sending to some charity that might end up going to be used to build a hayshed on the CEO's private property

Overheal

Hercule Poirot wrote: »

Yeah hard to disagree with the sentiment that Pusey is a pathetic excuse for a human being

I see Pusey threw out the mental health card to justify his actions, something that seems to be more and more common - obviously his mental health issues couldn't be bad if he's able to retain a job that affords him a Porche

A despicable low life and that sentence should have been quadrupled at a minimum

I - look. I was on board and King of the World'ing on the bow of your ship in this post but then the bolded bit.

Having a high earning job or a luxury veh-hic-cle isn't evidence of the absence of mental illness; frankly and sincerely I take exception with that stigmatization in general. If you need an impersonal example: the 45th President of the United States was a billionaire sociopath and a notorious narcissist.

Heckler

Overheal wrote: »

I - look. I was on board and King of the World'ing on the bow of your ship in this post but then the bolded bit.

Having a high earning job or a luxury veh-hic-cle isn't evidence of the absence of mental illness; frankly and sincerely I take exception with that stigmatization in general. If you need an impersonal example: the 45th President of the United States was a billionaire sociopath and a notorious narcissist.

You also can't say it is. A defense will throw everything into the mix to get a client off. That's they're job.

I'm totally sure the fella is lacking something to make him such a cnut. Does that let him off the hook ? The fcuk it does.

Thelonious Monk

Remember someone spread photos of that crash on the M50? I don't want to talk of the details but did they ever find the culprit?

Donald Trump

Overheal wrote: »

If you need an impersonal example: the 45th President of the United States was a billionaire sociopath and a notorious narcissist.

45 did have lovely hair

Real Donald Trump

Vile human being, pity he didn't get a longer stint in prison.

Overheal

Heckler wrote: »

You also can't say it is. A defense will throw everything into the mix to get a client off. That's they're job.

I'm totally sure the fella is lacking something to make him such a cnut. Does that let him off the hook ? The fcuk it does.

Agreed, but the defense must still try if it has any legs, eg. counseling visits medicine etc. as his zealous advocate.

It would have to be a very compelling and documented illness to sway my opinion about him being an abhorrent POS though, IMHO.

corner of hells

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Remember someone spread photos of that crash on the M50? I don't want to talk of the details but did they ever find the culprit?

There was a number of motorists prosecuted or to be prosecuted for stopping on the m50.

punisher5112

Maybe this is something they can learn from and when pulling vehicles over get them to follow off at next exit or services.
Very sad 4 were killed due to 2 people both off their face.

The trucker is going to be 22 years off the road at least.

Mollydog123

He will be a pariah for the rest of his life. A bit like the guy suspected of murdering the French woman in West Cork.

EddieN75

What crime was he charged with in the end?

I looked it up

Outraging public decency:

is a common law offence in England and Wales[1] Hong Kong[citation needed] and the Australian states of New South Wales and Victoria.[2]:42 It is punishable by unlimited imprisonment and/or an unlimited fine.

Heckler

EddieN75 wrote: »

What crime was he charged with in the end?

I looked it up

Outraging public decency:

is a common law offence in England and Wales[1] Hong Kong[citation needed] and the Australian states of New South Wales and Victoria.[2]:42 It is punishable by unlimited imprisonment and/or an unlimited fine.

The custodial sentence is negligible. Hopefully its his name and knowledge by people of what he did that will make him a pariah wherever he goes. A worthless waste of space and air.

punisher5112

punisher5112 wrote: »

Maybe this is something they can learn from and when pulling vehicles over get them to follow off at next exit or services.
Very sad 4 were killed due to 2 people both off their face.

The trucker is going to be 22 years off the road at least.

Yea, maybe they can learn that a random drugged up truck driver could come along and assassinate them all.

Australia had some strange notions when the victims are police.

EddieN75

Heckler wrote: »

The custodial sentence is negligible. Hopefully its his name and knowledge by people of what he did that will make him a pariah wherever he goes. A worthless waste of space and air.

Itl all be forgotten by the next news cycle. Same as everything else

Overheal

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Australia had some strange notions when the victims are police.

One more thing to attribute to Down Under

The Hound Gone Wild

What a piece of shít.

Outstanding name though... Dick Pusey

Guy:Incognito

karlram wrote: »

H
He actually fled the scene too. Then sent the videos to 3 friends. One of which was a cop. So not only is he a spineless low life he's a massive dope into the bargain. Laws need to be changed around this

I assumed the mental health stuff in the article was his solicitor trying it on but at best hes an idiot. Friend or not, theres surely no way he expected his mate thats a cop to just reply "lol" and leave it at that?

Overheal

EddieN75 wrote: »

What crime was he charged with in the end?

I looked it up

Outraging public decency:

is a common law offence in England and Wales[1] Hong Kong[citation needed] and the Australian states of New South Wales and Victoria.[2]:42 It is punishable by unlimited imprisonment and/or an unlimited fine.

Sounds like Australians might be taking up an interest in updating their good Samaritan laws if this is the sauce they hit him with.

Beechwoodspark

Is there capital punishment in oz?

Someone like him would be a candidate

Absolutely abhorrent. The lack of compassion is frightening.

punisher5112

bubblypop wrote: »

Yea, maybe they can learn that a random drugged up truck driver could come along and assassinate them all.

No need to be such a smart arse.....

What I'm saying is this actually does happen a lot, as in crashes, higher speeds, it would be much safer to get off the fast sections, if this were the case they'd all be alive, there is no need whatsoever to be on a hard shoulder unless broke down.

Guy:Incognito

Overheal wrote: »

Sounds like Australians might be taking up an interest in updating their good Samaritan laws if this is the sauce they hit him with.

There needs to be clear (if thats possible) lines between when you are required to help and how much though. Someone disabled in relatively safe water that they are physically unable to rescue themselves from is a long way from jumping in to effectively battlefield surgery without knowing anything after a pile up.

I presume theres no requirement to put yourself in danger with these laws? Like the guy in London the other day that died saving the woman that jumped in the river.

Obviously calling for help should be a bare minimum requirement in any situation.

Beechwoodspark

Does oz have the death sentence does anyone know

Overheal

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

There needs to be clear (if thats possible) lines between when you are required to help and how much though. Someone disabled in relatively safe water that they are physically unable to rescue themselves from is a long way from jumping in to effectively battlefield surgery without knowing anything after a pile up.

I presume theres no requirement to put yourself in danger with these laws? Like the guy in London the other day that died saving the woman that jumped in the river.

Obviously calling for help should be a bare minimum requirement in any situation.

And some subsection in there about not harassing, even tormenting parties in distress that you have no intention of helping, etc.

Pauliedragon

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Is there capital punishment in oz?

Someone like him would be a candidate

No capital punishment in oz. Each individual state has their own laws. He would've been sentenced under New South Wales law.

Necro

Overheal wrote: »

Sounds like Australians might be taking up an interest in updating their good Samaritan laws if this is the sauce they hit him with.

First time it's been used since 1958 I believe!

Overheal

Necro wrote: »

First time it's been used since 1958 I believe!

To be fair that just shows how rare his behavior really is, too.

Necro

Overheal wrote: »

To be fair that just shows how rare his behavior really is, too.

Yeah, it really is a bizarre case. I can't quite fathom how the thought to video a horrific accident where there are serious injuries and/or deaths would even cross through someone's mind. Takes a special type of character to do that sort of thing.

Overheal

Necro wrote: »

Yeah, it really is a bizarre case. I can't quite fathom how the thought to video a horrific accident where there are serious injuries and/or deaths would even cross through someone's mind. Takes a special type of character to do that sort of thing.

Which is normally sans the taunting of those dying.

As other witnesses tried to help the injured, Pusey could be heard in the video saying that this was "justice" and that he'd have to get an Uber home, Judge Wraight added.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/28/australia/pusey-sentencing-australia-scli-intl/index.html