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Covid vaccines safety - thread banned users in First Post



  • Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭ shillyshilly

    ah you're one of those.... cool, fill your boots with these....

    The Important Role of Animal Research in mRNA COVID-19 Vaccine Development | NIH: National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases

    Freedom of Information request on animal studies performed for COVID-19 vaccines - GOV.UK (

    Covid-19 vaccine did not kill every animal it was tested on - Full Fact

    Debunk: Pfizer and Moderna COVID vaccines did not skip animal trials | Euronews

    Clive Palmer says 50 per cent of animals involved in trials for Australia's COVID vaccines died. Is he correct? - ABC News

    If you can be arsed looking up, there are countless papers on the vaccines studies in animals, google scholar or a university library search will bring them up no problem... but I suppose the tens of thousands of researchers who have studies published are all in on it too?

    In regards to gene therapy and nanotechnology, I welcome that its being looked into in the medical world.... it has unleashed a whole array of research for countless new treatment avenues for cancer, heart issues, brain issues along with viruses have been unlocked...

  • Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭ shillyshilly

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,687 ✭✭✭ Fighting Tao

    You’re wasting your time. He has lost touch with the real world. He believes that everything an octogenarian imagines will become reality.

  • Registered Users Posts: 14,727 ✭✭✭✭ astrofool

    Another thing wrong, but you'll figure it out one day (well actually probably not...).

    So not genuinely asking, right so.

  • Registered Users Posts: 965 ✭✭✭ DrFrost

    Hahaha, that drubbing clearly hurt bad as you haven't been able to let it go since.

    You will be implanted, mark my words. You've taken the gene therapy with nanotechnology, so there's no reason you won't be taking the chip.

    Prove me wrong 😉

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  • Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭ shillyshilly

    I'm still trying to get the point of the Blackrock/Vanguard link.... surely being the biggest pension providers in the world, it would be in their interest to be keeping people alive (and investing in companies doing so) rather than dead, so they can take profits off investments and management (unless you picked a crap annuity on a DC scheme and popped your clogs early)...

    but hey, I'm sure these Bitchute experts know the real truth that defies logic.

  • Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭ shillyshilly

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,694 ✭✭✭ Pinch Flat

    I'm curious as well. It's kinda scary what people read as fantasy and betray as fact. Too far gone down the rabbit hole to back out now I guess.

  • Registered Users Posts: 23,215 ✭✭✭✭ King Mob

  • Registered Users Posts: 965 ✭✭✭ DrFrost

    Ask yourself why your mRNAs were never approved prior to the Covid "emergency". Many medical companies stopped pursuing this avenue of research due to toxicity concerns.

    Like it or not, and I'm not making fun of you, but you are the human guinea pig. That's a fact.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,727 ✭✭✭✭ astrofool

    Factually, because they were being targeted as a cancer treatment as vaccines are typically a low profit business, which they will return to post pandemic (though investment is now in place to reduce the development time if any future pandemic occurs, at least for now, like hiring security guards after the jewels are stolen).

  • Registered Users Posts: 965 ✭✭✭ DrFrost

    According to AI and transhumanist poster-boy Elon Musk, Neuralink longer-term goal is "Symbiosis between humans and AI”.

    A lot of us would wager this chip will also eventually be your implanted version of the all encompassing digital ID (already being proposed and pushed through parliaments such as WEF affiliates Australia and Canada).

    You got a preview of it when Canada froze the bank accounts of anybody connected to the trucker protests. What do you think happens when everything goes completely digital with CBDC (Central Bank digital currency, due 2024-2025). Want to protest or non-comply? No problem, they'll just freeze your funds and whatever else connected to your digital ID. Like they already did in Canada.

    From a control perspective, there's zero reason not to eventually implant you with this. Why wouldn't they? I'd do it in their shoes, too. Most are blindly compliant. And if you aren't, what are you going to do about it? Fck all.

    Sheep get tagged, right? Well, you all had your QR codes which "allowed" you your freedoms back. That was your tag, externally speaking. You've already started the conditioning process. You will be tagged physically in the end 😉

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,687 ✭✭✭ Fighting Tao

    How will everyone in the world be forced to have a brain implant within the next 10 years (less actually as the video wasn’t shot today!) when the implants aren’t developed yet, and putting an implant a brain is not a simple procedure? It will require lots of expert specialised surgeons, specialised medical teams, facilities, etc. Won’t the governments be busy trying to take everything off everyone to ensure that the 2030 target is met because something Klaus Schwab said?

    Seeing you claim to know what will happen me, what will I be having for lunch? I haven’t even thought about it yet.

  • Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭ Fr0g

    The data was examined over many years. If the AZ and J&J vaccines worked then it would have been eradicated. We would have at least gotten to herd immunity. Instead the numbers increased in highly jabbed areas. The higher the v uptake the greater the numbers. Every wave has been bigger than the last. How exactly do you measure success?

  • Registered Users Posts: 965 ✭✭✭ DrFrost

    AI robotic surgeons will perform these procedures. They're assisted by human surgeons for now, but the human won't be needed in future.

    I never said the brain implant will be by 2030. Depends where they're at with the tech. It may be preceded by a more basic digital ID/RFID type chip. Implanted in your hand, perhaps. Some loons already do this voluntarily in the likes of Sweden. It'll all be sold under the guise of safety and convenience, as always.

    It depends how many humans they need around at that point, btw. I don't forsee the need for 7b or so transhumans walking around merged with AI through brain implants. Many jobs are already being automated, and this will only increase into the future.

    RTE getting the idea out here into public consciousness. Why would anyone want to implant their "Covid pass" when it was only supposed to be a temporary measure? 😉

    As for your lunch, I don't know. Probably some GMO type delight with all sorts of artificial additives and chemicals 👌🏼

  • Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭ Fr0g

  • Registered Users Posts: 15,384 ✭✭✭✭ odyssey06

    Which doesn't remotely answer any of the questions that were put to you, but hey keep throwing up a smokescreen when you are caught in a lie.

  • Registered Users Posts: 15,384 ✭✭✭✭ odyssey06

    There is no list there of conditions, and all my earlier points and queries still stand.

    Another utterly dishonest attempt at deception, which as been thoroughly and completely discredited multiple times:

    Comorbidities, while they may raise the risk of severe disease, are not necessarily the cause of death. The virus itself can be the cause of otherwise preventable death among those who had manageable health conditions

    I'll repeat the question and you keep running away from it?

    Were they (high blood pressure, heart condition, diabetes) comorbidities on the list you used to exclude people from dying of covid?

    Well? Come on, answer up.

    Hold on, did you deliberately include 'mild comorbidities' in your list to make your case?

    And now, you don't want someone using those same comorbidities to counter your argument?

    If someone has high blood pressure and died from covid, how do you know in each and every single case, that high blood pressure was the cause and not covid? And where does your link state that?

  • Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭ shillyshilly

    If you actually read some research papers you will realise all vaccines, mRNA or not, start off as a toxic compound.

    There are numerous reasons why mRNA wasn't looked at, mainly because vaccines already had a nice quick fix method of administration, but growing a virus to administer in the "usual" manner is actually a slow process, mRNA allowed for this process to be sped up ...

    Hence why it was looked at for pandemic response (Zika,Rabies, Ebola etc...) in the vaccine world, but also mentioned, was being looked at as a cancer therapy...

    From a vaccine standpoint, mRNA vaccines are still very volatile during transport, and require specialist logistics to keep them at optimum temperature, something that was hindering initial research backing, because who wants to put money into developing something which costs a lot of money to distribute?

    At the end of the day, new doesn't mean bad. It's about time some progress was made in this area of biotech, as it was getting scarily stagnant and had something like this happened in 20 years time, it may have been a situation where medicine might not have had an answer..

    that's some serious horseshit right there :-D

    So a digital version of existing access controls (bank card, passports, drivers licence) is going to control you more?

    How? what extra controls will be in place that aren't already there?

    If somebody wants to find out about you, it's already fairy easily done, the trucker accounts being frozen is an example of this, without having to go to the hassle of setting up systems and infrastructure, along with a chip rollout via a vaccine program.

    QR codes for travel? you obviously haven't travelled in a while, there are very few places looking for vaccine certs, some from last year, most for the last 6 months....

  • Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭ shillyshilly

    it won't be an implant, breaking the blood/brain barrier is risky and unless they manage to create nano-robotics which can be controlled externally to manoeuvre to specific points in the brain and allow for 2 way comms, it's a non starter (1 way has been achieved elsewhere in the body, but 2 way is particular challenging).

    What is being looked at is a wearable brain/machine interface, there is some fascinating research into it, Marie Lu Jepsen and her teams already have basic setups that could possibly be used for telepathy, rapid learning, medical diagnoses etc....

    Kai Fu Lee also has some great insights into how AI will be used when this interface is eventually achieved.

    If knowledge is to be pushed, machine/brain interfaces need to be embraced along with AI....

    In areas of engineering, science and technology, the gap between getting say a PhD in the 1960's compared to now is astounding, and it will get to a point when your regular human will simply not be able to retain the knowledge required to advance technology...

    You have options of either, relying on technology, hoping everyone somehow gains autistic levels of information retention on a specific topic, or have HUGE multi-disciplinary teams where everyone is an expert on a tiny fraction of a problem but having the issue of trying to lead that huge team...

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  • Registered Users Posts: 965 ✭✭✭ DrFrost

    Yes, of course its going to control you more. No cash = no privacy, for starters. Every transaction you make goes through (and logged by) a centralised system. Blockchain, most likely.

    Carbon credits introduced. Want to buy red meat but your carbon limit for the month has been reached? Your payment will be rejected at checkout. CBDC can be programmed with expiry dates. No saving. Haven't got your latest booster? Guess your welfare payment can't be processed. Exceeded your km driving limit for the week? Your electric car won't start. Internet access through digital/biometric ID only.... "hate speech" punished. No anon. Its all tied in. One centralised, connected, automated system. The control possibilities are endless, and you'll be able to do very little about it once properly in place. A Chinese style social credit system.

    No offense, you think like a pleb and clearly lack understanding/research in this area. You were probably one of the sheep scanning his qr code to be allowed go for a pint. Slave much?

  • Subscribers Posts: 35,954 ✭✭✭✭ sydthebeat

    1984 was written 73 years ago yet we are freer today than we've ever been

    I mean, in some places in America 15 year olds can buy guns over the counter, yet here we have someone predicting we won't be able to travel in our cars...

    As Alfred would say "some people just want to watch the world burn"

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,694 ✭✭✭ Pinch Flat

    I'm loving my 5G reception since I was chipped.

  • Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭ shillyshilly

    who said you have to use the digital currency for transaction? who said you even have to use cash today?

    There are ways and means around this and for people to stay off grid.

    If you're worried about it that much, it's more indicative you are likely lacking anything to trade other than cash, unfortunately that's your problem to deal with and what others will adapt to.

    No offense taken, you're some random off the internet who has a severe fear of Government control, with zero info of what area of research I work in, so I don't really care... But the sheep comment is quite funny, plenty of pubs weren't scanning all through COVID, like I said, ways and means for everything, you just either lack the skills or knowledge to do so.

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,687 ✭✭✭ Fighting Tao

    You are full of paranoia and fear. However, if you were true to your beliefs you wouldn’t access the internet, have a mobile phone, or any connected device.

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,687 ✭✭✭ Fighting Tao

    Oh, I know it won’t be an implant. I was just going along with the frantic fear the poster has let develop due to his lack of critical thinking abilities.

  • Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭ shillyshilly

  • Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭ shillyshilly

    sitting on a burner laptop, hiding in a lane using a public wifi point, then accessing TOR over 5 different VPN's to post a response...

    rinse and repeat with new burner laptop and location for each response.... Government ain't catching them

  • Registered Users Posts: 23,215 ✭✭✭✭ King Mob

    It's also weird how many of the people grifting about these government take over plots are announcing themselves on Twitter and making them targets.

    Its almost like they're not actually afraid of it or something...

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  • Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭ shillyshilly

    I have a couple of friends who are quite anti-government, ergo, they became anti-vax as a result during COVID...

    They didn't correlate the hypocrisy (and even stupidity) of:

    1) Posting everything on facebook for people to see

    2) Feeding personal information to a corporation who probably knows more about you than your own government and health service

    It's a good thing they're fun to be around when having pints