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New Citroen C5X. Thoughts?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 73,377 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,611 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    AMKC wrote: »
    I think it looks very classy and very stylish.

    I think it looks like it's been kicked in the arse and it hurt

    I really don't like the GS inspired front end


  • Registered Users Posts: 51,093 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Another oddball Citroen that nobody will buy here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,458 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Large. French. Weird. Expensive

    I don't dislike it, but it's salesproof.

    The French ambassador over here will be the only person in Ireland to sit in one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,499 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    colm_mcm wrote: »
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    Put they are. Who in there right mind would buy a Passat over this?

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,611 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    Dark images, dark colours, lots of shading and shadows and photos from a distance. It's almost like Citroen know something but want to hide it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    Does she come in a TDI boss?


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,499 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Does she come in a TDI boss?

    No that's old school technology.

    They have not listed all the engines yet but it looks to be just petrol and PHEV only so far.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    AMKC wrote: »
    No that's old school technology.

    They have not listed all the engines yet but it looks to be just petrol and PHEV only so far.

    Won't sell to the typical citroen driver in ireland.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,499 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Won't sell to the typical citroen driver in ireland.
    Why because there is no diesel?

    Maybe there will be only Citroen knows

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Is this a return to proper hydropneumatic suspension? If so, I'm in.

    Not sure if autocar saying "hydraulic cushion suspension" is the usual not calling it the right thing or its what Citroen are calling it and it's just some spring set up with a fluid filled top mount or something.

    Saying Citroen are "trying to replicate the magic carpet ride " doesn't inspire confidence that it's the real thing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,326 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Is this a return to proper hydropneumatic suspension? If so, I'm in.

    Do you mean a return to incredibly expensive repairs?
    This car is sure to have the highest depreciation in its segment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Do you mean a return to incredibly expensive repairs?
    This car is sure to have the highest depreciation in its segment.

    I never found it expensive at all.

    Its a fairly simple system of a reservoir and a pump. In the length of time most own their cars I'd say if they'd to replace a couple of spheres that's about it.

    I looked after my own though so it only cost me the price of any parts I changed. Any decent Citroen mechanic would have things changed for no more expensive , time wise, than a sprung car.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,780 ✭✭✭mailforkev


    Why is the rear reg plate not centred, it’s all I can see.


  • Registered Users Posts: 73,377 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    mailforkev wrote: »
    Why is the rear reg plate not centred, it’s all I can see.

    Don’t look at the rear camera!


  • Registered Users Posts: 843 ✭✭✭GeneHunt


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Don’t look at the rear camera!

    It's not the camera!
    If it does come to Ireland, lets hope our boy can put it in the centre!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 73,377 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    What is it then?

    Whatever it is, they seem to have eyeballed the number plate off it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,377 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Really like the new Citroen range like the C3, C5 Cross but I can't see where the sales would be for this given where the market is (SUV Crossovers).


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,179 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    That rear end is awful. Would look better if the pillars flared out into the body. Looks a bit bulbous.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,611 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    What is it then?

    Whatever it is, they seem to have eyeballed the number plate off it.

    The "Citroen" badge appears off centre too with the chevrons


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  • Registered Users Posts: 73,377 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    I think it’s more that the letter I is narrower, they’ve spaced the letters evenly from their edges - so the R isn’t in the middle. Looks sloppy.



    Also funny that the name is so similar to the Mazda CX-5


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,691 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    looking at my Picasso out the window, the "Citroën" lettering is much more compressed and it looks better IMO (though just the chevrons without the name would be better still).

    The old C5 and C6 sold poorly, that was before everyone went SUV crazy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,499 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    road_high wrote: »
    Really like the new Citroen range like the C3, C5 Cross but I can't see where the sales would be for this given where the market is (SUV Crossovers).

    This is exactly that an SUV Crossover vehicle.
    DaveyDave wrote: »
    That rear end is awful. Would look better if the pillars flared out into the body. Looks a bit bulbous.

    I think it looks great very funky.
    ba_barabus wrote: »
    The "Citroen" badge appears off centre too with the chevrons


    I think it could just be the light the way it is shining in it. I think it looks grand.
    colm_mcm wrote: »
    I think it’s more that the letter I is narrower, they’ve spaced the letters evenly from their edges - so the R isn’t in the middle. Looks sloppy.
    I think it's just the light and your minds. It looks good to me.


    Also funny that the name is so similar to the Mazda CX-5

    Not at all. It is the Citroen C5X. How would you mix that up with CX-5? Also no stroke in the Citroen C5X badging. If that was there ok maybe.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users Posts: 843 ✭✭✭GeneHunt


    loyatemu wrote: »
    looking at my Picasso out the window, the "Citroën" lettering is much more compressed and it looks better IMO (though just the chevrons without the name would be better still).

    The old C5 and C6 sold poorly, that was before everyone went SUV crazy.

    It's on the Citroen Ireland (Citroen.ie) today, "The C5 X will go on sale in Ireland in early 2022 in time for the 221 registration period." so I guess it's planned for this market too.

    https://www.citroen.ie/about-citroen/news/citroen-unveil-all-new-flagship-c5-x-model.html

    I know the C6 didn't sell well, I've only ever seen a few C6's here, I actually saw one (2006) in Ballymount industrial estate late last year, but I thought the C5 did okay, there's still plenty of them around.


  • Registered Users Posts: 73,377 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    AMKC wrote: »
    This is exactly that an SUV Crossover vehicle.



    I think it looks great very funky.




    I think it could just be the light the way it is shining in it. I think it looks grand.


    Not at all. It is the Citroen C5X. How would you mix that up with CX-5? Also no stroke in the Citroen C5X badging. If that was there ok maybe.

    You don’t think that CX-5 and C5X are similar ?

    Ok then.


  • Registered Users Posts: 843 ✭✭✭GeneHunt


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    You don’t think that CX-5 and C5X are similar ?

    Ok then.

    Okay, they are similar....

    Fingers crossed no one spots a BMW X5 M and thinks Mazda MX-5 :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 843 ✭✭✭GeneHunt


    This new C5 X is a big car, comparing it to other Citroens of similar sizes, (see below) wheelbase is a little shorter (29mm) then the last Citroen C5, but it's longer (27mm) than it, which is reflected in the boot capacity.


    Cars CITROEN C5 X CITROEN C5 (I) CITROEN C5 (II) CITROEN DS5 CITROEN C6
    Long 4,805mm 4,618mm 4,778mm 4,529mm 4,910mm
    Width 1,865mm 1,768mm 1,859mm 1,872mm 1,859mm
    High 1,485mm 1,478mm 1,458mm 1,504mm 1,461mm
    Wheelbase 2,785mm 2,748mm 2,814mm 2,728mm 2,901 mm
    Boot 545 L 456 L 439 L 464 L 419 L
    Weight TBA 1,352 kg 1,490 kg 1,495 kg 1,791 kg


    Even if you compare it to it's sister car, the current Peugeot 508 (II), it's big!

    Cars CITROEN C5 X PEUGEOT 508 (I) PEUGEOT 508 (II)
    Long 4,805mm 4,831mm 4,750mm
    Width 1,865mm 1,920mm 1,847mm
    High 1,485mm 1,455mm 1,405mm
    Wheelbase 2,785mm 2,817mm 2,794mm
    Boot 545 L 473 L 487 L
    Weight TBA 1,410 kg 2,001 kg






    Data source

    Citroen C5 Xhttps://www.autoevolution.com/news/all-new-2022-citroen-c5-x-promises-to-take-you-anywhere-and-in-style-159168.html?utm_source=ae_self&utm_medium=ae_moreon&utm_campaign=ae_moreon_news_static
    Citroen C5 (I) https://www.autoevolution.com/citroen/c5-liftback/
    Citroen C5 (II)https://www.autoevolution.com/citroen/c5-sedan/
    Citroen DS5https://www.autoevolution.com/citroen/ds5/
    Citroen C6 Xhttps://www.autoevolution.com/citroen/c6/

    PEUGEOT 508 https://www.autoevolution.com/peugeot/508/


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,263 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    GeneHunt wrote: »
    Okay, they are similar....

    Fingers crossed no one spots a BMW X5 M and thinks Mazda MX-5 :D

    BMW have a habit leveraging Mazda monikers, BMW 323i how are you!

    Fun fact (or possibly urban legend)... The Porsche 911 was originally intended to be the Porsche 901 but Peugeot intervened and claimed ownership of the X0Y naming convention.

    As to the C5 X, I like it but am unlikely to ever own one with the UK import market dead and they'll sell SFA new here. Not having someone else suck up the first 3 years of depreciation would be a deal breaker for me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 73,377 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Surprised it wasn’t badged as a DS. If they want to condemn it to failure altogether.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,377 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Surprised it wasn’t badged as a DS. If they want to condemn it to failure altogether.

    I thought DS showed promise- French style and sophistication in a car. The DS7 suv even looked an attractive price. But they seemed to not take off (I guess most will say shock horror there, but that is a very attractive car).
    There’s so many brands in the new Fiat-PSA group it’s hard to see where it lies- probably money better spent on the Peugeot brand to finally bring it up on a par with VW and make more money that way


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