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BMW M Sport vs Skoda Vrs

  • 10-04-2021 1:43pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 81 ✭✭ StephenRy30


    Hi I'm looking at upgrading my car not looking to get finance or loan so have around 10k to spend

    Looking at BMW M Sport 320d, 520d or Skoda Vrs
    I have heard the timing chain is meant to be a big problem in the bmw 520


Comments

  • Registered Users Posts: 72,778 ✭✭✭✭ colm_mcm


    What do you reckon the Leon is worth?

    What year is it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 72,778 ✭✭✭✭ colm_mcm


    2012 looking to trade it in

    That’s the older shape Leon so?


  • Registered Users Posts: 81 ✭✭ StephenRy30


    Anyone have any thoughts on BMW vs Skoda Vrs ?
    Im leaning towards a BMW 320d , 520d 2012 - 2013 model


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭ Wildly Boaring


    Anyone have any thoughts on BMW vs Skoda Vrs ?
    Im leaning towards a BMW 320d , 520d 2012 - 2013 model

    All have the chain issue.
    So budget to get done or make sure done when buying.


  • Registered Users Posts: 50,139 ✭✭✭✭ bazz26


    Op, how did you arrive at these choices other than you can buy them for 10k as they are quite different to each other?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 81 ✭✭ StephenRy30


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Op, how did you arrive at these choices other than you can buy them for 10k as they are quite different to each other?



    Well I have never owned a bmw and was always on my list . I know they can be expensive but so can alot of cars, cant keep going for the safe bet . Have been driving a 2liter now a good few years insurance is cheap at €600 fully comprehensive which I'm looking go get more off when I renew it.

    A friend just mentioned a skoda I have seen a few nice ones but still prefer the BMW. I'm would like to to spend 10k but I can go up a bit more for the right car , but at the end of the day will lose more then what I pay for car.


  • Registered Users Posts: 72,778 ✭✭✭✭ colm_mcm


    There’s no value to be had in Octavia RS at the moment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭ roosterman71


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    There’s no value to be had in Octavia RS at the moment.

    Why is that?


  • Registered Users Posts: 72,778 ✭✭✭✭ colm_mcm


    Why is that?

    A lot of them were coming from the uk, and with the nox charge at around €2000 (for 2015 and back) from Jan 2020, plus the new VRT bands and VAT now, nobody’s bringing them in.
    The ones that are for sale now are going for relatively big money.

    Seat Leon FR is much better value for money IMO.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81 ✭✭ StephenRy30


    I am looking up the north aswell for a bmw 520d have been driving manual since I started driving looking at automatic for change.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭ Wildly Boaring


    If you're looking up north make sure you're factoring in NOx to VRT.

    Make sure it's on NI plates of absolute proof that GB plates brought into NI before 2021


  • Registered Users Posts: 81 ✭✭ StephenRy30


    If you're looking up north make sure you're factoring in NOx to VRT.

    Make sure it's on NI plates of absolute proof that GB plates brought into NI before 2021



    Thanks will do .

    Silly question but Is there a site I can check that on and to get a check on the car to make sure it checks out . Is it the same site as my vehicle ? Just have to put In the northern Ireland reg ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 81 ✭✭ StephenRy30


    If you're looking up north make sure you're factoring in NOx to VRT.

    Make sure it's on NI plates of absolute proof that GB plates brought into NI before 2021




    I just think the spec & xtras is better up the north then what you get here its worth the VRT


  • Registered Users Posts: 50,139 ✭✭✭✭ bazz26


    I cannot see you getting much value importing with a budget of 10k. The Government have tweaked VRT back in January and realistically most of what you are looking at will need to be priced up North in the region of around 6k when you factor in exchange rates and VRT.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭ Wildly Boaring


    bazz26 wrote: »
    I cannot see you getting much value importing with a budget of 10k. The Government have tweaked VRT back in January and realistically most of what you are looking at will need to be priced up North in the region of around 6k when you factor in exchange rates and VRT.

    I reckon possibly less than the 6k.
    NOx on anything in that range gonna be over a grand on top of vrt.

    No point importing old diesels


  • Registered Users Posts: 81 ✭✭ StephenRy30


    bazz26 wrote: »
    I cannot see you getting much value importing with a budget of 10k. The Government have tweaked VRT back in January and realistically most of what you are looking at will need to be priced up North in the region of around 6k when you factor in exchange rates and VRT.



    I can go higher just looking at around that price but if see a car that's worth the money I will go higher. I was looking at finance aswell before I go for a mortgage seems to be the way to go .


  • Registered Users Posts: 81 ✭✭ StephenRy30




  • Registered Users Posts: 16,866 ✭✭✭✭ MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Hi I'm looking at upgrading my car not looking to get finance or loan so have around 10k to spend

    Looking at BMW M Sport 320d, 520d or Skoda Vrs
    I have heard the timing chain is meant to be a big problem in the bmw 520

    Look out for a 330d instead. Wipe the floor with a vrs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81 ✭✭ StephenRy30


    Look out for a 330d instead. Wipe the floor with a vrs.


    What about a 520d ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,683 ✭✭✭✭ punisher5112


    What about a 520d ?

    530d


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  • Registered Users Posts: 81 ✭✭ StephenRy30



    530d

    Not many decent ones around and looking to cheap tax low friend has a 06 7series but prefer 520d


  • Registered Users Posts: 50,139 ✭✭✭✭ bazz26


    If the difference in tax between a 520d and 530d concerns you then a BMW is the wrong car to be looking at buying.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81 ✭✭ StephenRy30


    bazz26 wrote: »
    If the difference in tax between a 520d and 530d concerns you then a BMW is the wrong car to be looking at buying.





    Not that it concerns me I just think why pay high tax when i can pay low tax all my previous cars were high tax , only my car at the moment has low tax of 280 so would rather say around that . Insurance wise doesn't bother me as I'm already paying very low insurance for my age which is fully comprehensive.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭ shnaek


    Not that it concerns me I just think why pay high tax when i can pay low tax all my previous cars were high tax , only my car at the moment has low tax of 280 so would rather say around that . Insurance wise doesn't bother me as I'm already paying very low insurance for my age which is fully comprehensive.

    2 years now driving a 2012 520D with huge mileage. Only problem I've had was a puncture. I did of course make sure the chain was done before I bought the car, and I got receipts and spoke to the mechanic who did the work.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,298 ✭✭✭ Wailin


    Not many decent ones around and looking to cheap tax low friend has a 06 7series but prefer 520d

    €280 for a 530d is cheap tax. You're saving €80 a year if you go with a 520d. Over 5 years you will save €400 in tax difference. A tiny fraction of the cost of depreciation. I cannot understand how so many drivers in ireland focus on road tax as the condition for buying.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81 ✭✭ StephenRy30


    Wailin wrote: »
    €280 for a 530d is cheap tax. You're saving €80 a year if you go with a 520d. Over 5 years you will save €400 in tax difference. A tiny fraction of the cost of depreciation. I cannot understand how so many drivers in ireland focus on road tax as the condition for buying.



    Yes 280 is cheap tax, which I am.paying on a 2.0 already. Tax is pointless anyway doesn't go on fixing the roads thats why many drivers look at prices of tax on cars


  • Registered Users Posts: 50,139 ✭✭✭✭ bazz26


    Which is why it's called motor tax these days, not road tax. :)

    F10 530d is 400 to tax but still small beans on these cars for what you get. I've had 520ds, a 530d and now a 430d. The 520d is a fine car but the 30ds are just better. More powerful, more refined and only slightly worse on fuel. If you can stretch to a 330d/530d then it's worth it but just remember whether it's a 520d or 530d these cars can still be 70k cars to fix or maintain irrespective of what they cost to buy now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,298 ✭✭✭ Wailin


    My mistake bazz I thought the OP was talking about the G30 rather than F10. €400 for the 530d is more than what I was paying for the 535d. Still very reasonable imo compared to the pre 08 system and a small cost in the overall car ownership spending.


  • Registered Users Posts: 50,139 ✭✭✭✭ bazz26


    Wailin wrote: »
    My mistake bazz I thought the OP was talking about the G30 rather than F10. €400 for the 530d is more than what I was paying for the 535d. Still very reasonable imo compared to the pre 08 system and a small cost in the overall car ownership spending.

    Ah no worries, my old 2015 530d was 390 but they increased them to 400 back in January when they rejigged some of the tax rates.


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