Expected cost of new 2009 Fiesta gearbox fitted, including labour?

irelandjnr

Anyone have low, high and average estimates for this job including VAT. Total cost. 1.4 Litre petrol Fiesta.

1. New gearbox and main dealer.

2. New gearbox and independent garage.

Never heard of a breakers. But can be included in pricing estimates if you wanted: 2B

Edit: people here don't seem to think it's the gearbox, which is good. Now to find out what exactly the problem is. Fingers crossed someone can help. I've included a video on page 2.

CoBo55

Is it a brand new gearbox or one from a breakers? Who's doing the work a main dealer or an independent garage?

irelandjnr

Amended.

CoBo55

What's actually wrong with your gearbox? What year fiesta, petrol or diesel? A breakers is where you can get a second hand gearbox for about a quarter of the price of a new one, get an independent to put it in and you're sorted, going that road should cost around the 500 mark. It's probably a clutch problem you have anyway.

FrankC21

irelandjnr wrote: »

Anyone have low, high and average estimates for this job including VAT. Total cost. 1.4 Litre petrol Fiesta.

1. New gearbox and main dealer.

2. New gearbox and independent garage.

Never heard of a breakers. But can be included in pricing estimates if you wanted: 2B

Sorry, but is there a 1.4 petrol fiesta? Will it be handier to get another fiesta 2008-2009, new gearbox + labour will probably cost you same as getting another 2nd hand 2008-2009 fiesta. I think.

User1998

Whatever you do don’t go to a main dealer. Try a gearbox specialist instead

grogi

irelandjnr wrote: »

Anyone have low, high and average estimates for this job including VAT. Total cost. 1.4 Litre petrol Fiesta.

1. New gearbox and main dealer.

2. New gearbox and independent garage.

Never heard of a breakers. But can be included in pricing estimates if you wanted: 2B

Fitting gearbox approximately 500€. New gearbox, if you find one, a few grands. Much cheaper for a used one.

That is a terminal failure in such car, should be sold for parts.

irelandjnr

CoBo55 wrote: »

It's probably a clutch problem you have anyway.

Allow me to provide more information. If you’re coming to slow down or upon starting the car starts shaking a little as if it could cut out, which it can do. I feel I need to rev the car more to stop it from stalling/cutting out. Someone suggested the gearbox. I know nothing about cars but my initial feeling when this issue cropped up was the clutch. You have to rev car to keep engine going, at least that’s the feeling I get. Engine compression test was fine. Spark plugs new, coil new etc. You really think it might be clutch? What makes you say that? Does my description here change your opinion or reinforce it? If true, I wonder the cost in an independent garage for clutch replacement?

irelandjnr

FrankC21 wrote: »

Sorry, but is there a 1.4 petrol fiesta? Will it be handier to get another fiesta 2008-2009, new gearbox + labour will probably cost you same as getting another 2nd hand 2008-2009 fiesta. I think.

My mistake 1.25 L

CoBo55

irelandjnr wrote: »

Allow me to provide more information. If you’re coming to slow down or upon starting the car starts shaking a little as if it could cut out, which it can do. I feel I need to rev the car more to stop it from stalling/cutting out. Someone suggested the gearbox. I know nothing about cars but my initial feeling when this issue cropped up was the clutch. You have to rev car to keep engine going, at least that’s the feeling I get. Engine compression test was fine. Spark plugs new, coil new etc. You really think it might be clutch? What makes you say that? Does my description here change your opinion or reinforce it? If true, I wonder the cost in an independent garage for clutch replacement?

Is it automatic?

kirving

Did you bring it to a garage? On the face of it, I wouldn't be changing the gearbox based of what you described.

Idle control valve perhaps? Is there any noise when driving in any particular gear?

mk7r

irelandjnr wrote: »

Allow me to provide more information. If you’re coming to slow down or upon starting the car starts shaking a little as if it could cut out, which it can do. I feel I need to rev the car more to stop it from stalling/cutting out. Someone suggested the gearbox. I know nothing about cars but my initial feeling when this issue cropped up was the clutch. You have to rev car to keep engine going, at least that’s the feeling I get. Engine compression test was fine. Spark plugs new, coil new etc. You really think it might be clutch? What makes you say that? Does my description here change your opinion or reinforce it? If true, I wonder the cost in an independent garage for clutch replacement?

Was the car always doing this since you had it or is it a new issue?

irelandjnr

New issue.

irelandjnr

Not automatic.

irelandjnr

kirving wrote: »

Did you bring it to a garage? On the face of it, I wouldn't be changing the gearbox based of what you described.

Idle control valve perhaps? Is there any noise when driving in any particular gear?

What kind of noise? The engine in general is quiet and has always been. It's more that it just shakes a bit a cuts out, like a clutch or idling issue or whatever. Then again I feel it needs to be revved more than normal, so maybe not an idling issue. But maybe it still could be. I'm not a car person. Tricky this one.

newmember2

So the engine doesn't idle - but the car goes OK and the gearchange is OK - so what makes you think it's the gearbox?

I guess fueling.

CoBo55

I'm out life's too short lads....

FrankC21

irelandjnr wrote: »

Allow me to provide more information. If you’re coming to slow down or upon starting the car starts shaking a little as if it could cut out, which it can do. I feel I need to rev the car more to stop it from stalling/cutting out. Someone suggested the gearbox. I know nothing about cars but my initial feeling when this issue cropped up was the clutch. You have to rev car to keep engine going, at least that’s the feeling I get. Engine compression test was fine. Spark plugs new, coil new etc. You really think it might be clutch? What makes you say that? Does my description here change your opinion or reinforce it? If true, I wonder the cost in an independent garage for clutch replacement?

Sounds like me with the renault fluence brought it back to the garage and they couldn't find anything wrong with my one, they just told me its not really exactly a new car, the mechanic told me how to test the clutch, if the bite point is beyond halfway when you release it, the clutch is going. But my one isn't need any replacement.

After that, i try not releasing the bite until i rev up the car up to 2500-3k.

Just out of curiosity, how long have you been driving the fiesta?

FrankC21

irelandjnr wrote: »

What kind of noise? The engine in general is quiet and has always been. It's more that it just shakes a bit a cuts out, like a clutch or idling issue or whatever. Then again I feel it needs to be revved more than normal, so maybe not an idling issue. But maybe it still could be. I'm not a car person. Tricky this one.

Just rev it up then, and just try and control the clutch when you release it.

kirving

Can you take a video of the rev counter with sound, when you realise the clutch. Do this both in neutral and in first gear with the handbrake on so that the engine is under a little stress.

Have you brought it to a mechanic? How long have you been driving, and how long have you been driving that car?

irelandjnr

kirving wrote: »

Can you take a video of the rev counter with sound, when you realise the clutch. Do this both in neutral and in first gear with the handbrake on so that the engine is under a little stress.

Have you brought it to a mechanic? How long have you been driving, and how long have you been driving that car?

I will do that video yes. How much do you want me to rev the car?

Been driving for years and years, two drivers drive this car. Yes we brought to dealership and they spent hours (apparently) tracing wires to see if there was a loose wire. They didn't find one. Spark plugs changed but didn't need it. We got an engine compression test with an independent dealer and they said the engine was ok, so it doesn't look like an engine specific problem. Someone suggested it could be the ECU, what do you think?

irelandjnr

kirving wrote: »

Can you take a video of the rev counter with sound, when you realise the clutch. Do this both in neutral and in first gear with the handbrake on so that the engine is under a little stress.

Video to explain some more.

P.S. Just coming home there now in 3 gear I couldn’t get the car to exceed 3,000 revs going up the hill. Felt like car was lacking power. This car would be well serviced in general with preventative maintenance done etc. Surely both what’s in the video and this lack of power just now seem like related issues.

spiggotpaddy

What's your problem got to do with the gearbox, nothing I'd say. From the video it's like a coil is gone or fuel starvation.

irelandjnr

spiggotpaddy wrote: »

What's your problem got to do with the gearbox, nothing I'd say. From the video it's like a coil is gone or fuel starvation.

Thanks for your reply. They replaced the coil when examining the engine the broke the other one. So the Coillte doesn't seem to be the issue. What's fuel starvation? (I can guess what it is, but if wouldn't mind getting specific etc.) As in, is it expensive to get fixed? Difficult or complex to fix?

FrankC21

Does it have any errors using OBD scanner? Just guessing could be fuel pump aswell.

irelandjnr

FrankC21 wrote: »

Does it have any errors using OBD scanner? Just guessing could be fuel pump aswell.

NCT Sunday. Will that help us answer this riddle?

FrankC21

irelandjnr wrote: »

NCT Sunday. We that help us answer this riddle?

Good luck

richardsheil

irelandjnr wrote: »

NCT Sunday. Will that help us answer this riddle?

You just need to get it to a competent mechanic. They will diagnose it if competent. No disrespect to you but you don't know cars so are not the ideal person to figure it out.

richardsheil

richardsheil wrote: »

You just need to get it to a competent mechanic. They will diagnose it if competent. No disrespect to you but you don't know cars so are not the ideal person to figure it out.

The check engine light is on, so there will be a code stored which will help

embraer170

We'd all love to know what garage told you it was the gearbox.

You can get an OBD2 scanner for a few € on Ebay and easily connect it to an Android phone. It is a little bit more complicated if you use an iPhone. (need an OBD2 that broadcasts a Wifi signal).

Or maybe someone in your circle of friends/family already has one?

vintagevrs

Just take it to a mechanic....

How those symptoms got diagnosed as a gearbox issue I have no idea.

The fact it looks like it runs fine when the accelerator is applied would potentially point to the ICV. They can get gunked up and not let enough air in for the engine to idle and die like what yours is going. A spray of brake cleaner can sort that, or a new ICV.