Would you pay off a family members drug debt?

nicholasIII

I was listening to an old episode on the radio of Niall Boylan. A woman's 16yr old son ran up a debt 'on tic' from borrowing cannabis for free in a whole month. It then came to €2000.

The teen didn't have any money to pay so he tried ignoring them but the dealer came to his ma's house and threw a brick while leaving a note at the door. He threatened to break more windows so she just forked out the money from a loan shark.

Would you do this?

apache

I find it hard to believe he smoked €2000 worth in a month.

Richard Hillman

I would sanction the killing of said family member.

antix80

I'd pay it to protect my property.

The teen would be under house arrest.. Lock on door and bars on his window.

Sebastian Dangerfield

Pay once and scumbags then have a mug to come after every time said family member does something stupid.

Probably easy to say when your windows arent being smashed though

gerrybbadd

nicholasIII wrote: »

I was listening to an old episode on the radio of Niall Boylan. A woman's 16yr old son ran up a debt 'on tic' from borrowing cannabis for free in a whole month. It then came to €2000.

The teen didn't have any money to pay so he tried ignoring them but the dealer came to his ma's house and threw a brick while leaving a note at the door. He threatened to break more windows so she just forked out the money from a loan shark.

Would you do this?

Did the guards value it?

Housefree

Honestly unless you are going to go all Keyser Söze you really have no choice. They will smash your windows, burn your car, burn your house down then turn on your relatives. Grandparents/parents/sisters/brothers could all go through the same.

Feisar

Housefree wrote: »

Honestly unless you are going to go all Keyser Söze you really have no choice. They will smash your windows, burn your car, burn your house down then turn on your relatives. Grandparents/parents/sisters/brothers could all go through the same.

Yea unless one has the will and means to hit the mattresses ya sort of have to pay up.

Quantum Baloney

My kids have been doing drugs for years and never racked up a debt. It's all in the parenting. Teach them the value of money. Spend half, Spend half save half I always told them.

JimmyVik

My sisters son racked up a dept to a loan shark.
They came to her looking for the money.
Knocked on the door, then barged in, smashed up some furniture and the tv and said they would be back on Saturday to collect.
She borrowed the money off me. When I found out why i said i would phone the police. She said no, that next time they would break the young lads legs.
I would be ok with that because the little sh!t hasnt even made an effort to pay the money back.
But me being all brave and everything, when they arent at my door is one thing. I certainly would be scared if it was me they were coming to.
Police really need to get a handle on this stuff. Because i know full well if you report it nothing will be done and you will suffer.

griffdaddy

apache wrote: »

I find it hard to believe he smoked €2000 worth in a month.

I'd imagine they were giving him 3 - 3.5gram €50 bags and he was powering through one or two a day. Would be easily done, especially if smoking with his mates.

Housefree

apache wrote: »

I find it hard to believe he smoked €2000 worth in a month.

He's either selling it or it was coke

nicholasIII

griffdaddy wrote: »

I'd imagine they were giving him 3 - 3.5gram €50 bags and he was powering through one or two a day. Would be easily done, especially if smoking with his mates.

Yeah, an 1/8 ounce (3.5 grams) is about €50. Coke is more likely though seeing as it's €90 per gram.

Yes I'd pay but the kid would be in serious bother. He can work off the debt for me.

Mad Benny

I would insist on a receipt before making payment.

Oranage2

A parents worst nightmare

AdrianBalboa

My children aren't in the right "demographic" to get addicted to drugs seeing as most drug addicts come from broken, traumatised upbringings (through no fault of their own, I hasten to add!).

However if they did get into some trouble with unsavory characters, somehow, then I would just write the dealer a check and examine myself as to where I went wrong. I wouldn't do the same for any of my other relatives, such as my husband, though.

Grayson

nicholasIII wrote: »

I was listening to an old episode on the radio of Niall Boylan. A woman's 16yr old son ran up a debt 'on tic' from borrowing cannabis for free in a whole month. It then came to €2000.

The teen didn't have any money to pay so he tried ignoring them but the dealer came to his ma's house and threw a brick while leaving a note at the door. He threatened to break more windows so she just forked out the money from a loan shark.

Would you do this?

It never happened. Guys that deal hash to consumers are small time. They'd never let a guy get that much dept.

Unless the ****ebag was dealing. In which case, his dealer was a supplier and they might give him that much on tic if it was his regular order. Which means he took it, sold it at a profit and squandered the money. The little ****ebag.

jimmycrackcorm

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

My children aren't in the right "demographic" to get addicted to drugs seeing as most drug addicts come from broken, traumatised upbringings (through no fault of their own, I hasten to add!).

A school teacher friend used to often say that little johnnies mammies were always shocked when they found out the trouble they got into at school.
They were always an angel at home, which of course was a respectable environment.

.anon.

nicholasIII wrote: »

I was listening to an old episode on the radio of Niall Boylan. A woman's 16yr old son ran up a debt 'on tic' from borrowing cannabis for free in a whole month. It then came to €2000.

I'd be very annoyed that he didn't realise that somebody was eventually going to have to pay for it. Cannabis doesn't grow on trees, you know.

I wouldn't pay off any debt for him. I'd encourage him and the dealer to come to some kind of arrangement whereby he works the debt off for a set period of time, couriering drugs around on his bicycle. Who knows, he might enjoy it and it could become a very lucrative career.

AdrianBalboa

Grayson wrote: »

It never happened. Guys that deal hash to consumers are small time. They'd never let a guy get that much dept.

Unless the ****ebag was dealing. In which case, his dealer was a supplier and they might give him that much on tic if it was his regular order. Which means he took it, sold it at a profit and squandered the money. The little ****ebag.

Please calm down.

AdrianBalboa

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

A school teacher friend used to often say that little johnnies mammies were always shocked when they found out the trouble they got into at school.
They were always an angel at home, which of course was a respectable environment.

I suppose this "school teacher friend" was the one calling his students snide nicknames like "little Johnny?"

I suppose it's the parents fault as well he was jealous those children were being given the benefit of the doubt by guardians in a loving home? :rolleyes:

nicholasIII

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

My children aren't in the right "demographic" to get addicted to drugs seeing as most drug addicts come from broken, traumatised upbringings (through no fault of their own, I hasten to add!).

However if they did get into some trouble with unsavory characters, somehow, then I would just write the dealer a check and examine myself as to where I went wrong. I wouldn't do the same for any of my other relatives, such as my husband, though.

I call bull**** on that.

The reality is that people of all socioeconomic statuses get addicted to drugs, the only reason why most homeless drug addicts are from working class backgrounds is that they don't have wealthy family members to bail them out when they lose their job or take them to expensive rehab.

A teenager whose parents live in Howth is unlikely to need to steal to purchase €90 of coke every weekend compared to a teen who lives in Coolock.

AdrianBalboa

nicholasIII wrote: »

I call bull**** on that.

The reality is that people of all socioeconomic statuses get addicted to drugs, the only reason why most homeless drug addicts are from working class backgrounds is that they don't have wealthy family members to bail them out when they lose their job or take them to expensive rehab.

A teenager whose parents live in Howth is unlikely to need to steal to purchase €90 of coke every weekend compared to a teen who lives in Coolock.

Socioeconomic statii has nothing to do with it. Yes I am from an upper middle class background but what I was referring to were people from traumatised backgrounds without familial affection or respect. That can, of course, happen to anyone regardless of whether you grew up in Sandycove or Lucan.

fatbhoy

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

My children aren't in the right "demographic" to get addicted to drugs seeing as most drug addicts come from broken, traumatised upbringings (through no fault of their own, I hasten to add!).

However if they did get into some trouble with unsavory characters, somehow, then I would just write the dealer a check and examine myself as to where I went wrong. I wouldn't do the same for any of my other relatives, such as my husband, though.

Good one :pac:

antix80

Grayson wrote: »

Which means he took it, sold it at a profit and squandered the money. The little ****ebag.

I think there's a scam where have-a-go dealers get their stash or cash robbed, or a miscommunication occurs, that leaves them with a drug debt they need to pay immediately. Like imagine giving a little idiot a fairly large amount of drugs, leaving them a few weeks, then demanding a payment of more than they expected when they least expect it after they've tipped away at it and don't have any cash. And they're middle class living in a nice house with their parents. Collatoral, 500k (the house). Trumped up debt, 2k for prob 200 of low grade drugs.

Not sure how common that is but i could imagine young fools getting caught out.

It didn't come to 2 grand, the dealer saw a chance to get 2 grand. Believe it or not not all dealers who are willing to sell to kids are morally upstanding and honest.

Logically there's no point in paying the debt, the scum will keep coming back for more. Either kill the dealer or send the family member off somewhere are the only 2 good options.

For Forks Sake

apache wrote: »

I find it hard to believe he smoked €2000 worth in a month.

He was supposed to sell it . Lazy stoners.

JPup

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

Socioeconomic statii has nothing to do with it. Yes I am from an upper middle class background but what I was referring to were people from traumatised backgrounds without familial affection or respect. That can, of course, happen to anyone regardless of whether you grew up in Sandycove or Lucan.

Honestly if you are serious then you are extremely naïve. Teenagers from all backgrounds can get caught up with drugs for a variety of reasons. Normal rebellion, peer pressure etc. Some people are more prone to addiction and get sucked in. It's not nearly as simple as what you are suggesting.

AdrianBalboa

JPup wrote: »

Honestly if you are serious then you are extremely naïve. Teenagers from all backgrounds can get caught up with drugs for a variety of reasons. Normal rebellion, peer pressure etc. Some people are more prone to addiction and get sucked in. It's not nearly as simple as what you are suggesting.

I am suggesting that it happens to people from all backgrounds.

kildare lad

Ye id try and pay off it , if wasn't to big, especially if you're dealing with real scumbags . Cocaine can get you in a lot of debt fairly quick . I know a few people that had to get relations to pay off debts. One bloke I know got kidnapped , they took pics of him tied up and called to his parents house to show them . His father went to the bank and paid off his debt . The fella that done it got shot dead a few years ago . I don't live in a rough area either but there's scumbags in every town and usually they're selling for lads from Dublin , who'll come out and threaten or smash up people's cars or houses