Dublin Burglary/Sexual case

Del.Monte

How was this creature at large in Ireland: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/criminal-court/burglar-jailed-for-sexually-assaulting-woman-who-awoke-with-his-hand-on-her-throat-1.4498220

A man with no right to be in the country and a string of convictions in other countries as well as Ireland roaming at large....I despair.

Moroccan national Elghynaoui, who was homeless at the time of these offences, has 33 previous convictions across three jurisdictions. He has 22 Irish convictions for offences such as burglary, possession of a knife and failing to appear in court.



As if we didn't have enough home grown pond life. :mad:

Beechwoodspark

The brave lady who was the survivor of this is currently on Claire byrne

Extremely impressive and making very good points about how the legal process can be improved for the victim.

How the attacker was still in the country after so many convictions is sickening

Eric Cartman

" has 33 previous convictions across three jurisdictions"

How are we allowing this kind of animal in to the country. We really need to tighten up immigration.

Utter scum.

walshb

Del.Monte wrote: »

How was this creature at large in Ireland: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/criminal-court/burglar-jailed-for-sexually-assaulting-woman-who-awoke-with-his-hand-on-her-throat-1.4498220

A man with no right to be in the country and a string of convictions in other countries as well as Ireland roaming at large....I despair.

Moroccan national Elghynaoui, who was homeless at the time of these offences, has 33 previous convictions across three jurisdictions. He has 22 Irish convictions for offences such as burglary, possession of a knife and failing to appear in court.



As if we didn't have enough home grown pond life. :mad:

Been saying it years.....

I don't think there is any real screening done when foreign nationals arrive..

Any real proper screening

Horrendous case. The woman was on Claire Byrne

And 10 years?Another absolute disgrace....be out in 6-7 years...our justice system is disgusting. Really is

But you rarely here any TDs really go after it and ask why we are so lenient on utter scum.

Menaces to society need permanent removal

Quantum Erasure

10 years is a disgrace? I would have said it was harsh, considering.

PCros

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

10 years is a disgrace? I would have said it was harsh, considering.

10 years is never 10 years in this country.

Not harsh at all. What would you sentence someone who stuck his fingers in your mam's/daughter's/wife's vagina and also tried to strangle them?

biobot

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

10 years is a disgrace? I would have said it was harsh, considering.

And WTF would you be considering?

Quantum Erasure

Sorry, didn't read the link, thought it was a different case...

ExoPolitic

Eric Cartman wrote: »

" has 33 previous convictions across three jurisdictions"

How are we allowing this kind of animal in to the country. We really need to tighten up immigration.

Utter scum.

We're part of Europe, not much we can do about it.

punisher5112

ExoPolitic wrote: »

We're part of Europe, not much we can do about it.

One can still be removed and refused entry.

walshb

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

10 years is a disgrace? I would have said it was harsh, considering.

Do you think 10 years for this very violent crime against this woman is harsh?

Or do you mean hard for Ireland's standards?

Normal One

Ah sure he's as Irish as the Irish/ whatabout homegrown scum/ you're racist!!!

jam_mac_jam

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

10 years is a disgrace? I would have said it was harsh, considering.

Harsh for burglary and sexual assault in her bed. Are you joking?

Bubbaclaus

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

10 years is a disgrace? I would have said it was harsh, considering.

Jesus

Quantum Erasure

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

10 years is a disgrace? I would have said it was harsh, considering.

Considering what?
He should be sent back to Morocco the second he's released hopefully.

punisher5112

Why no photo?

Why wasn't he detained and removed under the 1st removal order.....

That woman could have been killed and has to live with that nightmare forever.....

Absolutely sick and disgusted.

We are not been protected in this country one bit.

ExoPolitic

ExoPolitic wrote: »

We're part of Europe, not much we can do about it.

He's from Morocco "He has no immigration status to be in Ireland and a deportation application was submitted by gardaí in January 2018. "

xzanti

Brave lady. I hope she damaged the beasts eyes permanently!!

Scummy, dirty waste of oxygen.

twowheelsonly

Eric Cartman wrote: »

" has 33 previous convictions across three jurisdictions"

How are we allowing this kind of animal in to the country. We really need to tighten up immigration.

Utter scum.

It's a huge problem, and one that seems to slip under the radar.

2019, the last year for which figures are available, there were 7,170 committals to Irish Prisons. 1,817 were 'non-Irish' which is a little over 25%.
That's actually a small improvement over the years as it has at times been over 33%

Ash.J.Williams

Normal One wrote: »

Ah sure he's as Irish as the Irish/ whatabout homegrown scum/ you're racist!!!

Go away

Mike Murdock

I fully expect the Left-Wing Cavalry to arrive soon to defend this guy and paint us all as racists. Just for asking the pertinent questions as to why a Moroccan, with a string of previous convictions and no right to stay here by claiming asylum, should be deported after committing an atrocious crime.

Ash.J.Williams

Mike Murdock wrote: »

I fully expect the Left-Wing Cavalry to arrive soon to defend this guy and paint us all as racists. Just for asking the pertinent questions as to why a Moroccan, with a string of previous convictions and no right to stay here by claiming asylum, should be deported after committing an atrocious crime.

No just a few twats posting that there will be left wing people defending him when there isn’t

livia21

Mike Murdock wrote: »

I fully expect the Left-Wing Cavalry to arrive soon to defend this guy and paint us all as racists. Just for asking the pertinent questions as to why a Moroccan, with a string of previous convictions and no right to stay here by claiming asylum, should be deported after committing an atrocious crime.

FFs imagine using the horrific attack on this poor woman in an attempt to score cheap political point's.

Article say's he will deported after completing sentence.should be deported now

berettaman

twowheelsonly wrote: »

It's a huge problem, and one that seems to slip under the radar.

2019, the last year for which figures are available, there were 7,170 committals to Irish Prisons. 1,817 were 'non-Irish' which is a little over 25%.
That's actually a small improvement over the years as it has at times been over 33%

I am trying to remember the case from a couple of years back, 13 Pakastani gentlemen were detained in Rosslare, questioned and released/escaped from Garda custody.
There was a shrug of the shoulders and "ah sure"..
Now I am not saying they were criminals but WTF?
We cannot let this happen.
Clients of mine tried to drive through Switzerland to get to a job in Austria and were turned away. We have to cop on.

Gatling

On bail so he could apply for asylum ...
Which he will get along with a very expensive legal team ,the minister of justice should be ashamed for allowing this to happen

Gatling

livia21 wrote: »

Article say's he will deported after completing sentence.should be deported now

Highly unlikely there have been other cases involving asylum seekers and they got to stay after being given international protection

Mike Murdock

livia21 wrote: »

FFs imagine using the horrific attack on this poor woman in an attempt to score cheap political point's.

Article say's he will deported after completing sentence.should be deported now

He, and his taxpayer funded legal team, will almost certainly plead that his human rights will be infringed/life threatened/that he is gay etc and will not be deported.

Mike Murdock

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

No just a few twats posting that there will be left wing people defending him when there isn’t

Yet.

livia21

Gatling wrote: »

Highly unlikely there have been other cases involving asylum seekers and they got to stay after being given international protection

Article say's "He will be bound by deportation order"
He should be sent back now

Mike Murdock

livia21 wrote: »

Article say's "He will be bound by deportation order"
He should be sent back now

It can be appealed through a Judicial Review and it almost certainly will be.

biko

He said Elghynaoui was a Moroccan national, having left there when he was 16 and moved to Spain where he did odd jobs. He then moved to Brussels, and onto the UK for a number of years before coming to Ireland in 2017.

Classic. This man is not seeking asylum, he drifting around Europe and committing crime.

Ash.J.Williams

Welcome to our new posters

ELM327

This is a great example of why we need extreme vetting of immigrants.
We get way too many as it is, how is Ireland the first port of call for folks fleeing to claim asylum from middle east or africa? Of course, we know these are not genuine asylum cases but cases of economic migration

Mike Murdock

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Welcome to our new posters

2017 - arrives in Ireland.

Aug 2017 - appears on Garda pulse system.

Jan 2018 - deportation order submitted by Gardai.

Apr 2018 - in custody on foot of charges and applies for asylum.

Elghynaoui was released from custody on the basis of that application but failed to engage with the process and the application was closed. Another deportation order is currently in place.

July 12th, 2019 - burgles a house

July 17th, 2019 - this assault and a burglary of another house

July 18th, 2019. - in police custody. Hasn’t been free since.

22 convictions in this country.

And the politicians now want to give scumbags like him a house 16 weeks after claiming asylum? **** right off

Ash.J.Williams

Mike Murdock wrote: »

That’s really good

Shakey_jake

Attached is a list of Tds email addresses currently in power, please make an effort to let then know how you feel

They want to hear from you! its why they ran!

https://data.oireachtas.ie/ie/oireachtas/communications/other/2020/2020-07-10_contact-details-tds_en.csv

biko

ELM327 wrote: »

This is a great example of why we need extreme vetting of immigrants.
We get way too many as it is, how is Ireland the first port of call for folks fleeing to claim asylum from middle east or africa? Of course, we know these are not genuine asylum cases but cases of economic migration

To be fair, it's not only MENA. There are plenty Lithuanians, Polish etc in Irish prisons.
Of course they are not asylum seekers but common criminals here for the easy pickings.

ELM327

biko wrote: »

To be fair, it's not only MENA. There are plenty Lithuanians, Polish etc in Irish prisons.
Of course they are not asylum seekers but common criminals here for the easy pickings.

Yes but they have entitlement to be here, due to EU , same as we have to go there.


We can't tackle that one but we can address the issue of mena.

walshb

Vast majority TDs/politicians won't touch this with a barge pole....

Racism written all over it if they were to speak up to even query this chap's history.

It's sadly ironic that this poor woman is a solicitor, and it's legal eagles who fight tooth and nail to keep scum like this on the island...

She actually touched on this in her Una Mulally interview in the Irish Times.

Gatling

livia21 wrote: »

Article say's "He will be bound by deportation order"
He should be sent back now

Do you currently know how many deportation order's we have issued ,that have never being enforced it's in the thousands

I Am The Law

Del.Monte wrote: »

How was this creature at large in Ireland: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/criminal-court/burglar-jailed-for-sexually-assaulting-woman-who-awoke-with-his-hand-on-her-throat-1.4498220

A man with no right to be in the country and a string of convictions in other countries as well as Ireland roaming at large....I despair.

Moroccan national Elghynaoui, who was homeless at the time of these offences, has 33 previous convictions across three jurisdictions. He has 22 Irish convictions for offences such as burglary, possession of a knife and failing to appear in court.



As if we didn't have enough home grown pond life. :mad:

Probably walked in through Dublin airport without so much as a question.

enricoh

Iirc the egyptian guy in dundalk that went on the stabbing spree was stopped the day before by the cops who ascertained that he was here illegally.
He was brought to dublin to claim asylum n then sent on his merry way!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.ie/news/4874876/gardai-ruled-out-terror-links-stabbing-dundalk/amp/

Daragh1980

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

No just a few twats posting that there will be left wing people defending him when there isn’t

To be fair, lefties wouldn’t defend this appalling crime.

HOWEVER - they don’t condemn it either. And that silence matters.

BanditLuke

I'm shocked this scumbag wasn't an engineer or brain surgeon, shocked I tells ya.

Your Face

I read her interview in the IT.
It was a horrific read. What she was put through.
She is extremely brave and dignified.

It's getting closer.

Rezident

I am losing all respect for our "justice system". Aside from going easy on offenders with 33 or 73 previous convictions (and enriching lawyers), what does it do again?

ExoPolitic

ExoPolitic wrote: »

We're part of Europe, not much we can do about it.

Borders are closed across Europe right now. You cal always deport people under Maastricht. In fact you can deport people for not working. And ban travel. Plenty of U.K. football fans were banned from Europe even when they were in the EU.

Galwayguy35

This judge is a twat.

"He took into account the guilty pleas to the other burglaries and that Elghynaoui will serve his sentence in this country where he has no friends and will have social and cultural difficulties".

The Government tell us nobody is let stay without backround checks so thats a lie, the minute it was found out he had convictions in other EU countries he should have been kicked out not rack up 22 more here.

And before anyone says it yes I know we have Irish rapists and murderers but we shouldnt be importing foreign ones.

It just shows there is no real way of knowing the backround of these economic migrants other than what they themselves decide to tell.

punisher5112

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k2gjZ2D_NI

They can do it why not us .,.

Ray Donovan

punisher5112 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k2gjZ2D_NI

They can do it why not us .,.

Fair play to them.