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Leinster Team Talk Thread (Love you Furlong time)

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  • Subscribers Posts: 41,831 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    stephen_n wrote: »
    How often have you seen a winger made captain? If you think about it for a while, you might see there is a reason for that.

    Dan Evans is captain tonight for ospreys from 15

    no big deal with having a back 3 player as captain


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭Rigor Mortis


    To be fair FB is different to wing. FB has a better view of the totality of the game and is better positioned to engage with the full team. Wing is a terrible position to captain from.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    Clear winner on the poll, though I have to say I'm terrible disappointed 'Koh Samui Cup Championes' didn't do better, some of you really need to send it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭bayern


    LH Prop(5)
    Cian Healy(33/Belvedere/Clontarf) - bench for Ireland.
    Ed Byrne(27/Clongowes/UCD) - irish squad.
    Peter Dooley(26/Birr RFC/Lansdowne) - starting for Leinster.

    Michael Milne(22/Birr RFC-Roscrea/UCD) - injured.(???)
    Marcus Hanan(21/Clane RFC/Old Belvedere) - bench for Leinster.

    TH Prop(6)
    Michael Bent(35) - starting for Leinster.
    Tadhg Furlong(28/New Ross RFC/Clontarf) - starting for Ireland.
    Andrew Porter(25/St. Andrews/UCD) - bench for Ireland.
    Vakh Abdaladze(25/Coolmine RFC/Clontarf) - injured.(BACK)
    Greg McGrath(24/Wexford RFC/Lansdowne)

    Tom Clarkson(21/Blackrock/DUFC) - bench for Leinster.

    Hooker(5)
    Sean Cronin(34) - starting for Leinster.
    James Tracy(29/Newbridge/UCD)
    Ronan Kelleher(23/St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - bench for Ireland.
    Dan Sheehan(22/Clongowes/Lansdowne) - bench for Leinster.

    John McKee(21/Campbell/Old Belvedere)

    Lock(9)
    Scott Fardy(36) - starting for Leinster.
    Devin Toner(34/Castleknock/Lansdowne) - starting for Leinster.
    Ross Molony(26/St. Michaels/UCD) - starting for Leinster.
    James Ryan(24/St. Michaels/UCD) - injured(HIA)
    Jack Dunne(22/St. Michaels/DUFC) - bench for Leinster.
    Ryan Baird(21/St. Michaels/DUFC) - bench for Ireland.

    Charlie Ryan(22/Blackrock/UCD) - injured.(???)
    Brian Deeny(21/Wexford RFC/Clontarf) - injured.(KNEE)
    Joe McCarthy(19/Blackrock/DUFC)

    Backrow(12)
    Rhys Ruddock(30/Exile/St. Marys) - irish squad.
    Jack Conan(28/St. Gerards/Old Belvedere) - starting for Ireland.
    Josh Van Der Flier(27/Wesley/UCD) - starting for Ireland.
    Dan Leavy(26/St. Michaels/UCD) - injured.(KNEE)
    Josh Murphy(25/St. Michaels/UCD) - starting for Leinster.
    Will Connors(24/Clongowes/UCD) - injured.(KNEE)
    Max Deegan(24/St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - injured.(KNEE)
    Caelan Doris(22/Blackrock/DUFC) - injured.(HIA)
    Scott Penny(21/St. Michaels/UCD) - starting for Leinster.

    Martin Moloney(21/Athy RFC/Old Belvedere) - injured.(??)
    Sean O'Brien(20/Blackrock/UCD) - bench for Leinster.
    Alex Soroka(20/Belvedere/Clontarf) - injured.(SHOULDER)

    Scrumhalf(6)
    Jamie Gibson Park(29) - bench for Ireland.
    Luke McGrath(28/St. Michaels/UCD) - injured.(HIA)
    Rowan Osborne(24/Clongowes/DUFC) - starting for Leinster.
    Hugh O'Sullivan(23/Belvedere/Clontarf) - bench for Leinster.

    Paddy Patterson(22/Blackrock/UCD) - starting for Munster
    Cormac Foley(21/St. Gerards/Lansdowne)

    Outhalf(6)
    Jonathan Sexton(35/St. Marys/St. Marys) - starting for Ireland.
    Ross Byrne(25/St. Michaels/UCD) - irish squad.
    Ciaran Frawley(23/Skerries RFC/UCD) - starting for Leinster.
    Harry Byrne(21/St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - starting for Leinster.

    David Hawkshaw(21/Belvedere/Clontarf) - injured(ANKLE)
    Tim Corkery(19/Kilkenny RFC/UCD) - bench for Leinster.

    Centre(8)
    Robbie Henshaw(27) - starting for Ireland
    Rory O'Loughlin(27/St. Michaels/UCD) - starting for Leinster.
    Garry Ringrose(26/Blackrock/UCD) - injured.(ANKLE)
    Conor O'Brien(25/Mullingar RFC/Clontarf) - injured.(KNEE)
    Jimmy O'Brien(24/Newbridge/UCD) - injured.(hamstring)
    Tommy O'Brien(22/Blackrock/UCD) - injured.(ankle)

    Liam Turner(21/Blackrock/DUFC) - injured.(???)
    Jamie Osborne(19/Naas RFC/Naas) - starting for Leinster.

    Back Three(11)
    Dave Kearney(31/Clongowes/Lansdowne) - starting for Leinster.
    James Lowe(28) - irish squad.
    Adam Byrne(26/Naas RFC/UCD) - injured.(quad)
    Cian Kelleher(26/St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - injured.(hamstring)
    Hugo Keenan(24/Blackrock/UCD) - starting for Ireland.
    Jordan Larmour(23/St. Andrews/St. Marys) - bench for Ireland.

    Michael Silvester(22/Clongowes/DUFC) - injured.(???)
    Aaron O'Sullivan(21/Exile/Blackrock) - injured.(???)
    Max O'Reilly(21/St. Gerards/DUFC) - starting for Leinster.
    Andrew Smith(20/St. Michaels/Clontarf) - bench for Leinster.
    Niall Comerford(20/Blackrock/UCD) - injured.(???)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,721 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    .ak wrote: »
    Clear winner on the poll, though I have to say I'm terrible disappointed 'Koh Samui Cup Championes' didn't do better, some of you really need to send it.

    Are you sure they didn't put you in a coma during your stint in the hospital ak that's like so 2019.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,409 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    .ak wrote: »
    Clear winner on the poll, though I have to say I'm terrible disappointed 'Koh Samui Cup Championes' didn't do better, some of you really need to send it.

    Can we get the poll taken down? There’s an awful habit of leaving them there meaning more stuff to flick by on some threads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,530 ✭✭✭dub_skav


    salmocab wrote: »
    Can we get the poll taken down? There’s an awful habit of leaving them there meaning more stuff to flick by on some threads.

    Let's have a vote


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,409 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    dub_skav wrote: »
    Let's have a vote

    Is there another word for vote?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    Are you sure they didn't put you in a coma during your stint in the hospital ak that's like so 2019.

    Yeah but 2020 didn't happen so...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    I actually don't think you can remove it... I'll look into it tho.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    ... so I checked the mods forum for this, and found a post I followed 7 years ago.

    Turns out the answer is still no.

    Absolute scenes goys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,849 ✭✭✭ionadnapokot


    bayern wrote: »

    Tim Corkery(19/Kilkenny RFC/UCD) - bench for Leinster.

    Centre(8)
    Jamie Osborne(19/Naas RFC/Naas) - starting for Leinster.

    I wonder will Osbourne end up as a 13?
    I think this is his 2nd start and both have been at 13.

    Anyone know anything about Corkery?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭bayern


    I wonder will Osbourne end up as a 13?
    I think this is his 2nd start and both have been at 13.

    Anyone know anything about Corkery?

    From Kilkenny RFC, he was starting outhalf of very talented u18 club side in 2018, but didn't make an irish u18 sides that season. He failed to make the Leinster u19 summer training squad after initial selection but was brought in as an alternative after injury ruled out another outhalf, he went on to be the starting outhalf for the leinster 19's in the interpros over highly rated schools outhalves, one of whom played for ireland u18.

    He earned a sub-academy place after his time with the 19's and a Leinster 'A' appearance while still only 18, He made last season irish 20's a year young and was the bench outhalf in the three games they played. He faces strong competition for this seasons 20's 10 jersey but he would have to be favourite for it now. Finally he is very young for his age grade, not turning 20 until December.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,707 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    I wonder will Osbourne end up as a 13?
    I think this is his 2nd start and both have been at 13.

    Anyone know anything about Corkery?

    Osborne is a very big boy.

    Initially I thought he was a bit wiry and undersized - something to be absolutely expected for his age.

    But Leinster put up a pic of him beside Tracy, JOB and Hanan last week after Zebre and he's massive.

    A center of his physical profile and ability could be a lot of use to us. I think he'd be a very good fullback also


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,489 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Any idea if Conor O'Brien is expected back?
    He looked like a real handful when he got a couple of games but it's been so long since he played it doesn't look great


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭bayern


    Any idea if Conor O'Brien is expected back?
    He looked like a real handful when he got a couple of games but it's been so long since he played it doesn't look great

    next season.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Osborne is a very big boy.

    Initially I thought he was a bit wiry and undersized - something to be absolutely expected for his age.

    But Leinster put up a pic of him beside Tracy, JOB and Hanan last week after Zebre and he's massive.

    A center of his physical profile and ability could be a lot of use to us. I think he'd be a very good fullback also

    Saw him playing fullback for Leinster u19s a while back and he was indeed very good. Scored a beautiful try where he cut a brilliant line from deep and cut clean through the Connacht defence from 40-odd metres out. Definitely went away from that game thinking Osborne was the standout back from that age group, which was a surprise as at the time I had heard lots about Cosgrave and Karl Martin but very little about Osborne.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭bayern


    Saw him playing fullback for Leinster u19s a while back and he was indeed very good. Scored a beautiful try where he cut a brilliant line from deep and cut clean through the Connacht defence from 40-odd metres out. Definitely went away from that game thinking Osborne was the standout back from that age group, which was a surprise as at the time I had heard lots about Cosgrave and Karl Martin but very little about Osborne.

    Martin was playing a year up for that 19's side and at that stage had played two years of irish u18's with another season to come at that stage.

    Cosgrave had all the schools hype around him from a young age.

    Not much was known of Osborne really until this season, apart from his impressive showings at 15 for leinster u18's and on the wing for ireland u18's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,409 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    .ak wrote: »
    ... so I checked the mods forum for this, and found a post I followed 7 years ago.

    Turns out the answer is still no.

    Absolute scenes goys.

    You see this is why democracy doesn’t work. You give people the vote and they’re stuck with the thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,849 ✭✭✭ionadnapokot


    It's amazing really that they are playing Osbourne at 13 considering he doesn't really have any experience there. He's 19?
    Must be a bit of a natural footballer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭bayern


    It's amazing really that they are playing Osbourne at 13 considering he doesn't really have any experience there. He's 19?
    Must be a bit of a natural footballer.

    Turns 20 in november.

    He played centre underage for his club and school. But he has no experience there at a interprovincial level etc.
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,849 ✭✭✭ionadnapokot


    bayern wrote: »
    Turns 20 in november.

    He played centre underage for his club and school.
    .

    Ok. Thanks.
    That makes a bit more sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,721 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    It's amazing really that they are playing Osbourne at 13 considering he doesn't really have any experience there. He's 19?
    Must be a bit of a natural footballer.

    He played 13 for the A team in the interpros vs Ulster, played 12 vs Munster the month before.

    He definitely seems to have the skill level to cover across the backline.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭Rigor Mortis


    .ak wrote: »
    Clear winner on the poll, though I have to say I'm terrible disappointed 'Koh Samui Cup Championes' didn't do better, some of you really need to send it.

    10 years on from the Unicorn Jizz shirt its a disgrace that that wasnt even included in the vote. It's a police state around here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    I see Ronan O'Gara and johnny Sexton have made up.
    https://twitter.com/StevenPConnolly/status/1372943949678137345


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,767 ✭✭✭eire4


    sebdavis wrote: »
    At the moment Dev should be resigned. I expect Fardy will be released and Toner is playing decent rugby for Pro14 level. He will be a great player to have during the international windows

    Especially when your playing so many young academy players in those windows having the experience of someone like Toner in the team is huge as long as he can keep it up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    I see Ronan O'Gara and johnny Sexton have made up.
    https://twitter.com/StevenPConnolly/status/1372943949678137345

    Can't unsee that now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,707 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    It's amazing really that they are playing Osbourne at 13 considering he doesn't really have any experience there. He's 19?
    Must be a bit of a natural footballer.

    Literally all of his senior rugby has been at 13 not including A games.

    Where else would he play?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Leinster are pretty much at their limit now. The squad has managed the last few months expertly, but injuries and Ireland call ups have stretched us extremely thin.

    For the final I hope we'll be given as many test players back as possible. I honestly don't care about the QF the following week. A league final must always take precedence.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,707 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    Really hoping we get the fringe Irish lads back next week.

    If we manage to get Ruddock, Ed, Lowe, JGP, Ross, Baird, Larmour back that will be helpful.

    I'll be pragmatic and say we won't see Frawley or Penny next week which is problematic.

    Could be looking at a ROL, JOB midfield.

    Or maybe they'll back Osbourne.

    Against Farrell and DDA it's s big ask


  • Registered Users Posts: 479 ✭✭armchaircoach


    Really hoping we get the fringe Irish lads back next week.

    If we manage to get Ruddock, Ed, Lowe, JGP, Ross, Larmour back that will be helpful.

    I'll be pragmatic and say we won't see Frawley or Penny next week which is problematic.

    Could be looking at a ROL, JOB midfield.

    Or maybe they'll back Osbourne.

    Against Farrell and DDA it's s big ask

    JOB is injured currently. If Frawley is out I think we'll see Ross Byrne and ROL in the centre, getting Lowe and Larmour back would be really helpful.

    If we don't get them back I'm not sure who plays, I Liam Turner?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,721 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    JOB is injured currently. If Frawley is out I think we'll see Ross Byrne and ROL in the centre, getting Lowe and Larmour back would be really helpful.

    If we don't get them back I'm not sure who plays, I Liam Turner?

    Injured against Scarlets, Osborne came on for him after half time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,707 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    JOB is injured currently. If Frawley is out I think we'll see Ross Byrne and ROL in the centre, getting Lowe and Larmour back would be really helpful.

    If we don't get them back I'm not sure who plays, I Liam Turner?

    I'm working under the assumption that JOB and Kelleher could have played tonight but we're so shorn of backs they didn't risk them.

    There's a possibility if we're so stuck that we'll need to look at Harry 10 Ross 12


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Predicting next week's 15 is very hard as we don't know who we'll actually have available from the test side or who is fit enough to play.

    I hope we'll see Porter and Kelleher starting, along with Baird. But the back row is a big issue. Penny might be injured, Connors is definitely out and VDF is starting against England. May not have a 7 available to us. Don't know what we'll do at 8 either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,721 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Clegg wrote: »
    Predicting next week's 15 is very hard as we don't know who we'll actually have available from the test side or who is for enough to play.

    I hope we'll see Porter and Kelleher starting, along with Baird. But the back row is a big issue. Penny might be injured, Connors is definitely out and VDF is starting against England. May not have a 7 available to us. Don't know what we'll do at 8 either.

    Josh Murphy at 6, Ruddock at 8 and then god (Nucifora) only knows at 7 would be my guess. Or shift Murphy to 8 again, Ruddock at 7 and Baird at 6.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Well in other great news, Munster's young players looked really strong tonight.

    And I think the only one of them who got injured was Paddy Patterson? There's something dodgy going on. If they win, its tainted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 479 ✭✭armchaircoach


    Did Soroka go off injured last week? He seemed to disappear at some point?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,721 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Well in other great news, Munster's young players looked really strong tonight.

    And I think the only one of them who got injured was Paddy Patterson? There's something dodgy going on. If they win, its tainted.

    Leo pulled Rowan at half time to even things out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,707 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    Josh Murphy at 6, Ruddock at 8 and then god (Nucifora) only knows at 7 would be my guess. Or shift Murphy to 8 again, Ruddock at 7 and Baird at 6.

    It'll be Ruddock to 7 I reckon with Fardy to 6 and Murphy to 8 if Penny is out.

    Fardy did quite well at 6 i think tonight.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    Dooley Tracy Bent
    Molony Fardy
    Ruddock Conan VDF

    McGrath HByrne
    RByrne ROL
    Kearney O'Reilly Larmour

    Kelleher, EByrne, Porter, Baird, Toner, HOS, whoever the hell else is fit.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    It'll be Ruddock to 7 I reckon with Fardy to 6 and Murphy to 8 if Penny is out.

    Fardy did quite well at 6 i think tonight.

    Was Fardy's substitution purely tactical? Was worried that it was another injury. That backrow would be ok for the final. Would give us a lot of power at the ruck and solidity in the lineout. But lacks pace and subtlety. They're all blindsides after all.

    H Byrne bottled it in the final 20 minutes but I thought he was very good in everything he did prior to that. Wouldn't have a problem with him starting the final. I think that's probably what will happen anyway. Might play alongside his brother at 12.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,707 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    molloyjh wrote: »
    Dooley Tracy Bent
    Molony Fardy
    Ruddock Conan VDF

    McGrath HByrne
    RByrne ROL
    Kearney O'Reilly Larmour

    Kelleher, EByrne, Porter, Baird, Toner, HOS, whoever the hell else is fit.

    Hope to see JOB and Kelleher.

    I don't think we will see VDF either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,721 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    molloyjh wrote: »
    Dooley Tracy Bent
    Molony Fardy
    Ruddock Conan VDF

    McGrath HByrne
    RByrne ROL
    Kearney O'Reilly Larmour

    Kelleher, EByrne, Porter, Baird, Toner, HOS, whoever the hell else is fit.

    We'll go 6-2 on the bench with Soroka if he's not injured I'd say, Smith in the 22 jersey.

    As great as it is to have all IQ players bar Fardy, it's these times that you really miss the likes of Isa and Kirchner etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Don't see a reason not to have Lowe in the side. Hasn't played much for Leinster this year, but has a point to prove from the Six Nations. We're a much better team with him in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Dan Sheehan had a decent shift in the backrow. It's obviously not his natural position, but he's such an impressive athlete that he could do a job there. Carried well and led the defensive line when tackling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,721 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Clegg wrote: »
    Don't see a reason not to have Lowe in the side. Hasn't played much for Leinster this year, but has a point to prove from the Six Nations. We're a much better team with him in it.

    Has played every game bar this weekend, as great as it would be to have him back I can see why he'd be under enforced rest with the quarter final to be played too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭shaungil


    So good thing the poll name didn’t jinx anyone. Phew


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    I would imagine we're looking at a situation next week where many front line internationals aren't available. I presume the IRFU will take it on a case by case basis with minutes played in the 6N factored in. If they play 80 minutes today, it will make them unlikely for next week also.

    As such, I think we might get the following back for the 23 (not necessarily starting): Porter, Brian Byrne, Ross Byrne, Baird, Ruddock, Larmour, Lowe, JGP.

    I'd think that guys like Conan and VDF may be released depending on how today goes. Conan in particular has little enough rugby in recent times.

    That still doesn't alleviate our issues in the centre for next week. As such, I think we might see something like a combination of ROL and JOB (if he's fit) or even RB forced to 12. Frawley didn't look comfortable at all at the end last night. Osborne has impressed but this would be a big ask for him against Farrell and DDA crashing it up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    The selection process should be

    1. Who do we not need for Europe?
    2. Play those guys.

    Couldn't give a shyyyyte about the Pro14 final (IRFU don't, so why should we?), it's all about Europe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 891 ✭✭✭sebdavis


    The selection process should be

    1. Who do we not need for Europe?
    2. Play those guys.

    Couldn't give a shyyyyte about the Pro14 final (IRFU don't, so why should we?), it's all about Europe.

    I am sure the players want medals.....sitting at home watching on TV you probably don't give a sh*t

    But I am sure all the players who have turned out, stayed in Bubbles to play. Isolated during the season, playing week in week out etc etc etc do care


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