Conspiracy Theorists

yourdeadwright

Whats the crack with the amount of grown adults who believe absolute nonsense

Yesterday I see an Irish Instagram influencer who has about 30 thousand followers (because she is very good looking) Posting story after story of some of the most outlandish stuff iv ever seen,

Celebrities eat children , there all in on it ye know , what is the reason because its good for your skin or something ,


McDonalds have parts of humans as ingredients (don't they source there food form local farmers )


Adrenochrome is the world most expensive drug and is taking from live peoples brains ( the writer of fear and loathing in Las Vegas made this up for the movie )


There just the ones I remember


The best part of this all is the person has done there RESEARCH which means they looked at YouTube video's made by some loon in there mam's box room .,


Anyone know anyone who goes on like this ,

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

yourdeadwright wrote: »

What the crack with the amount of grown adults who believe absolute nonsense

Yesterday I see an Irish Instagram influencer who has about 30 thousand followers (because she is very good looking) Posting story after story of some of the most outlandish stuff iv ever seen,

Celebrities eat children , there all in on it ye know , what is the reason because its good for your skin or something ,


McDonalds have parts of humans as ingredients (don't they source there food form local farmers )


Adrenochrome is the world most expensive drug and is taking from live peoples brains ( the writer of fear and loathing in Las Vegas made this up for the movie )


There just the ones I remember


The best part of this all is the person has done there RESEARCH which means they looked at YouTube video's made by some loon in there mam's box room .,


Anyone know anyone who goes on like this ,

Not literally.

Tacitus Kilgore

I think most of them will go away once the pubs and all that open again - well, I hope so anyway.


Lots of very normal people gone down that rabbit hole, it must be a nice coping mechanism though all the same - always having someone to blame for everything must be handy for getting through the day.

yourdeadwright

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

I think most of them will go away once the pubs and all that open again - well, I hope so anyway.


Lots of very normal people gone down that rabbit hole, it must be a nice coping mechanism though all the same - always having someone to blame for everything must be handy for getting through the day.

Always seems to be the same type of people as you say ,


I'll put it this way back in school you wouldn't be asking them could you copy there homework.


It bizarre they think they have figured out some mystery form behind there laptop that nobody else knows ,


Like a person couldn't just be rich and successful they must be eating children ,

Infernal Racket

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

I think most of them will go away once the pubs and all that open again - well, I hope so anyway.


Lots of very normal people gone down that rabbit hole, it must be a nice coping mechanism though all the same - always having someone to blame for everything must be handy for getting through the day.

Exactly this. Even the same folk are searching for someone to blame and the old saying "if you throw enough mud, some of it will stick" is what these attention seeking conspiracy theorists are aiming for

One of my old friends slid down this slope over the last ten years to the point that I find him intolerable now. Honestly I think he has a mental illness causing him to suffer intense paranoia.

Tacitus Kilgore

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Always seems to be the same type of people as you say ,


I'll put it this way back in school you wouldn't be asking them could you copy there homework.


It bizarre they think they have figured out some mystery form behind there laptop that nobody else knows ,


Like a person couldn't just be rich and successful they must be eating children ,

Perhaps sharing old missing dog posters and playing candy crush doesn't pay as well as first thought. whodathunkit.


But yeah, there is a clear demographic - just much more outliers getting in there since covid, it's a bit concerning.

Wanderer78

Deleted User wrote:

One of my old friends slid down this slope over the last ten years to the point that I find him intolerable now. Honestly I think he has a mental illness causing him to suffer intense paranoia.

Unfortunately a lot of this is probably due to undiagnosed and untreated psychological disorders and issues, our services for such issues are atrocious, and have actually declined during the pandemic

EmmetSpiceland

Infernal Racket wrote: »

Exactly this. Even the same folk are searching for someone to blame and the old saying "if you throw enough mud, some of it will stick" is what these attention seeking conspiracy theorists are aiming for

It is bizarre that some people, on this very site, think that this whole, global, pandemic is as a big scam to cover up the “poor performance” of the health service and to punish the drinkers of the country.

A certain cohort of drinkers have really turned to strange “things” since the pubs shut. They aren’t even happy when the gastro-pubs open.

yourdeadwright

The best is when its all the world leaders who plan to control and harvest us ,

Could you imagine Leo and Micheal Martin as the bad guys in a James Bond type scenario ,ahh man its hilarious

Will I Am Not

Is the storm still coming or what? Been hearing that a few years now and I’m still waiting...

AdrianBalboa

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

It is bizarre that some people, on this very site, think that this whole, global, pandemic is as a big scam to cover up the “poor performance” of the health service and to punish the drinkers of the country.

A certain cohort of drinkers have really turned to strange “things” since the pubs shut. They aren’t even happy when the gastro-pubs open.

Tony Holohan plotting to keep the ordinary man away from the demon drink by closing the pubs during a pandemic.

The people who think this nonsense are complete narcissists. Nobody cares about anyone else’s drinking habits.

Montage of Feck

Just because you're not paranoid dosent mean they're not after you. :pac:

Tacitus Kilgore

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

Tony Holohan plotting to keep the ordinary man away from the demon drink by closing the pubs during a pandemic.

The people who think this nonsense are complete narcissists. Nobody cares about anyone else’s drinking habits.

I can't understand the logic that makes people come to these conclusions, how can you go through life personalising absolutely everything. It must be exhausting.

AdrianBalboa

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

I can't understand the logic that makes people come to these conclusions, how can you go through life personalising absolutely everything. It must be exhausting.

It’s a victim complex along with a desperate need for mediocre people to be seen as special.

“They haven’t closed the pubs because of the virus, it’s to keep me down.”

These people should be mocked.

MrStuffins

It's always the lads who would struggle with their times tables in school and would sh*t themselves if asked to stand up and read something out.

Now they're all experts in telecommunications towers, immunology and vaccines.

Isn't it all supposed to be explained by the falling away of religious belief and the loss of connection to society and culture. I do think mental ill-health has a lot to do with it, not a mental illness, people with a lack of wholeness and routineness in their lives paranoia and unhappiness.

One of the believers was interviewed on a radio program the other day and what I found slightly upsetting was they had children imagine being a small child and the person you love and need support and care from is spouting nonsense about the vaccine being poison and other such nonsense.

yourdeadwright

MrStuffins wrote: »

It's always the lads who would struggle with their times tables in school and would sh*t themselves if asked to stand up and read something out.

Now they're all experts in telecommunications towers, immunology and vaccines.

How could I forget 5g towers

These loons could actually do better "research " on YouTube if they upgraded to 5 G

Tacitus Kilgore

MrStuffins wrote: »

It's always the lads who would struggle with their times tables in school and would sh*t themselves if asked to stand up and read something out.

Now they're all experts in telecommunications towers, immunology and vaccines.

It's amazing the empowerment that comes from a few likes, it seems the right people can post the most unintelligible garbage possible and it will still be liked and shared to the high heavens.

None of this stuff is based on anything even remotely logical

yourdeadwright

mariaalice wrote: »

Isn't it all supposed to be explained by the falling away of religious belief and the loss of connection to society and culture. I do think mental ill-health has a lot to do with it, not a mental illness, people with a lack of wholeness and routineness in their lives paranoia and unhappiness.

One of the believers was interviewed on a radio program the other day and what I found slightly upsetting was they had children imagine being a small child and the person you love and need support and care from is spouting nonsense about the vaccine being poison and other such nonsense.

Bill Gates has a tracker in there ye know ,

Imagine his sitting at home "ahh look Sharon's gone to Lidl and then the offy again " why would Bill Gates give a shiiiiite about ye Sharon ,



They forget everyone already has trackable cell/mobile phones ,

realdanbreen

An acquaintance of mine has been convinced that Barack Obama is Adolf Hitler's grandson.

I'm reading a book at the moment and the real life stuff that happens, makes fact soooo much stranger than fiction....it's not conspiracy theory stuff it's on science but by Jesus the lack of regulation and subsequent dangerous practice would turn your hair grey...

Tacitus Kilgore

realdanbreen wrote: »

An acquaintance of mine has been convinced that Barack Obama is Adolf Hitler's grandson.

A fella I work with has started quoting evangelical christian stuff, it's feckin batshit crazy stuff - ramblings about the mark of the beast in the vaccine, masks cause pneumonia, all that before the numerology stuff starts coming out..

It's mad, seems the more incomprehensible the subject matter, the more they latch on to it.

realdanbreen

realdanbreen wrote: »

An acquaintance of mine has been convinced that Barack Obama is Adolf Hitler's grandson.

Aaahh..

Barack Obama is actually Osama bin Laden..

Aongus Von Bismarck

Conspiracy theories are the comfort blanket for the dimwit. I really think social media has allowed these nonsensical theories to proliferate, and it’s always the most impressionable in a society who fall for them. The same sort of people who fall for cryptocurrency scams and high-yield investment schemes.

Germany is not immune to these theories, but it does appear to be a bigger issue in the English-speaking world. I like to keep my finger on the pulse of what is going in on in Ireland, and I’m always shocked at the sort of mindless drivel that gains traction over there – that pubs and entertainment venues are being kept closed as part of some sort of personal crusade on behalf of Dr. Tony; that a zero covid strategy would work in Ireland; that politicians are somehow enjoying making these very difficult decisions as it allows them to play dice with the lives of people; that RTÉ are in cahoots with politicians in exaggerating the impacts of this horrible and potentially deadly disease. Brainless sort of stuff.

There’s also something about small town Ireland that lends itself to these sort of mild conspiracy theories, and allegations that ‘elites’ up in Dublin are enjoying all this. It comes from a place of boredom, below average intelligence, resentment, and lack of critical thinking. It’s the modern equivalent of leaning over a gate and discussing with your neighbour how the lad up town has made so much money so quickly, and what crimes he committed to make him so wealthy.

Tacitus Kilgore

On the nose AVB.


I'm a gate leaner myself and cannot argue with any of that.

Tacitus Kilgore

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

On the nose AVB.


I'm a gate leaner myself and cannot argue with any of that.

They are educated and intelligent people who believe the nonsense as well with those it tends to be a lot of anxiety combined with a little paranoia about those in authority, who probably grew up with parents that had the same tendencies.

kildare lad

I know one fella who never had a political bone in his body until donald trump got elected . He started posting all the right wing conspiracies about Obama and Hilary Clinton . He made himself look like a bigger moron that he already was. I worked with another bloke who was mad into all the moon landing conspiracies , aliens built the pyramids etc . It was actually funny chatting to him , if you let him believe that you had doubts yourself , he'd starting giving all the science behind shxt being staged ... It was hilarious

Someone very close to me said that celebrities eat children thing the weekend.

I told them in no uncertain terms to stay the **** off Facebook and YouTube.

A lot of considered rational people have crossed over in the last 12 months to conspiracy theory nonsense.

buried

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

There’s also something about small town Ireland that lends itself to these sort of mild conspiracy theories, and allegations that ‘elites’ up in Dublin are enjoying all this.

Yeah, sure that O'Doherty wan, the Queen of the whole lot of them, she hails from the town of Tubberquack in County Ballygobackwards, not Dublin.

Kermit.de.frog

Howard Muscular Against wrote: »

Someone very close to me said that celebrities eat children thing the weekend.

I told them in no uncertain terms to stay the **** off Facebook and YouTube.

A lot of considered rational people have crossed over in the last 12 months to conspiracy theory nonsense.

Hasn't this been happening more and more in recent years before the pandemic?

I know perfectly normal individuals that have been saying more and more strange things before the pandemic.

This is the downside when every lunatic going can spread conspiracy and lies online without consequences and build a following I guess.

PeterPan92

My main issue with the conspiracy crowd is their hateful nature towards anyone that they deem as having any association to the "liberal left".

The comments made about Leo Varadkar's sexuality, for example, are absolutely disgusting. As are comments made regarding Muslims and BLM. Anything that isn't straight and white is cause for complete ridicule but these excuses for human beings.

HBC08

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

Conspiracy theories are the comfort blanket for the dimwit. I really think social media has allowed these nonsensical theories to proliferate, and it’s always the most impressionable in a society who fall for them. The same sort of people who fall for cryptocurrency scams and high-yield investment schemes.

Germany is not immune to these theories, but it does appear to be a bigger issue in the English-speaking world. I like to keep my finger on the pulse of what is going in on in Ireland, and I’m always shocked at the sort of mindless drivel that gains traction over there – that pubs and entertainment venues are being kept closed as part of some sort of personal crusade on behalf of Dr. Tony; that a zero covid strategy would work in Ireland; that politicians are somehow enjoying making these very difficult decisions as it allows them to play dice with the lives of people; that RTÉ are in cahoots with politicians in exaggerating the impacts of this horrible and potentially deadly disease. Brainless sort of stuff.

There’s also something about small town Ireland that lends itself to these sort of mild conspiracy theories, and allegations that ‘elites’ up in Dublin are enjoying all this. It comes from a place of boredom, below average intelligence, resentment, and lack of critical thinking. It’s the modern equivalent of leaning over a gate and discussing with your neighbour how the lad up town has made so much money so quickly, and what crimes he committed to make him so wealthy.

Whilst I agree with most of that it wasn't mostly small town country lads at the idiot march in dublin the last week.

Wanderer78

MrStuffins wrote: »

It's always the lads who would struggle with their times tables in school and would sh*t themselves if asked to stand up and read something out.

Now they're all experts in telecommunications towers, immunology and vaccines.

they hardly had learning disabilities such as dyscalculia and dyslexia!

EmmetSpiceland

PeterPan92 wrote: »

My main issue with the conspiracy crowd is their hateful nature towards anyone that they deem as having any association to the "liberal left".

That’s it, P. They’re being “courted” by the far-right, attending counterintuitive protests, that will only prolong the lockdown, and ranting about RTÉ and the “Mainstream Media”.

A lot of them seem to be spending their days glued to the radio. Listening to presenters like Dr. Ciara Kelly, Ryan Tubridy and Lottie Ryan just hear things that will wind them up and get them angrier. All geared, seemingly, towards a bizarre, and masochist, “hatefest” watching ‘The Late Late Show’.

These people need to realise that we’re all in this together and that there is light at the end of this very long, dark, “tunnel”. The vaccines are being “rolled out” and the case numbers are dropping.

Gathering in large, angry, crowds without masks or social distancing is a slap in the face to the frontline workers and to everyone following the “guidelines” and doing their bit.

Tacitus Kilgore

HBC08 wrote: »

Whilst I agree with most of that it wasn't mostly small town country lads at the idiot march in dublin the last week.

There were plenty of em, not to take from the jackeens either.

MrStuffins

Wanderer78 wrote: »

they hardly had learning disabilities such as dyscalculia and dyslexia!

The lads I see posting the rubbish I see have bigger issues

Wanderer78

MrStuffins wrote: »

The lads I see posting the rubbish I see have bigger issues

they probably do, co-morbidity is common with learning disabilities

Junkyard Tom

A lot of conspiracy theorists consider themselves 'critical thinkers', you'll often see it in Twitter bio's. Unfortunately the above-mentioned don't seem to possess the critical faculties to figure out that it would be impossible to coordinate a massive global conspiracy on the scale of a pandemic.

Do the CTers really believe millions-upon-millions of medical experts would be conspirators in a grand plan to prevent them going for their Friday night game of darts in their local?

degsie

yourdeadwright wrote: »

McDonalds have parts of humans as ingredients (don't they source there food form local farmers )
,

There is an outlandish conspiracy that the Irish school system is failing!

Wibbs

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Hasn't this been happening more and more in recent years before the pandemic?

I know perfectly normal individuals that have been saying more and more strange things before the pandemic.

This is the downside when every lunatic going can spread conspiracy and lies online without consequences and build a following I guess.

The interwebs basically. Before it a conspiracy would have to be spread by books, word of mouth and the like so the audience was smaller. These days pick any outlandish theory and you'll find a corner of the internet where others believe it and support each other as a community into believing it more. Throw in the very human need to be part of something bigger and among like minded people and here we are. The internet with all its good resources should have reduced this, but because people often prefer community and feeling they're right over complex reality and complex facts then...

buried

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Do the CTers really believe millions-upon-millions of medical experts would be conspirators in a grand plan to prevent them going for their Friday night game of darts in their local?

But this is a problem that has ultimately originated with the establishments promulgation within the last and current centuries of setting forth a heavily advertisement based society where everything revolves around the 'self'. The whole advertisement industry is revolved around the idea of the individual and how the individual 'self' is the only thing that matters. This has resulted into a heavily indoctrinated and insular mindset where the vast majority of people feel 'targeted', precisely because the last 100 years of heavy advertising has brainwashed people into behaving this way because advertising did literally target them. This is a major factor concerning the growth of this culture IMO.

storker

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

Tony Holohan plotting to keep the ordinary man away from the demon drink by closing the pubs during a pandemic.

The people who think this nonsense are complete narcissists. Nobody cares about anyone else’s drinking habits.

You'd probably find the Relaxation of Restrictions thread quite an eye-opener...

blackvalley

Dont think that anything new has happened other than everyone now having access to social media to publish anything they want .
The old expression about there being a " lot of headbangers " out there has just been proven and they are now able to find like minds.
Ireland alone has 49,100 towns , villages and townlands so if the village idiot from even a small number were active online it would add up to a lot of crazy stuff . :eek:

People who believe them are Dunning–Kruger effect morons.

Avoid at all cost.

storker

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

A lot of conspiracy theorists consider themselves 'critical thinkers', you'll often see it in Twitter bio's. Unfortunately the above-mentioned don't seem to possess the critical faculties to figure out that it would be impossible to coordinate a massive global conspiracy on the scale of a pandemic.

They all seem to suffer from an inability to tell the difference between innuendo and evidence. To these people the very possibility that something might have happened, or would have been in someone's interest to have happen, is proof positive that it did happen, and if you've disagree they'll tell you that you're the one who blindly believes everything you're told. Real Alice in Wonderland stuff.

It's scary to think that such people can end up serving on juries.

yourdeadwright

degsie wrote: »

There is an outlandish conspiracy that the Irish school system is failing!

Iv done quite well out of it bar the odd spelling mistake,
Surely you can forgive me, also typing from a phone doesn't help the matter

Akrasia

Its not just the fact that they're dumb, it's the fact that they get plenty of positive re-inforcement of their dumb ideas

There's a thing called the Availability Heuristic, where you make your decisions based on how easily you can think of an example of something from your recent experience

If you are surrounded by messaging that constantly talks about alleged scientific fraud and corruption, and someone asks you 'should we trust established science' and all you can think of are the dozens of facebook messages you've seen about 'big pharma' doing shady things and can't easily think of any examples where science has shown it's self to be trustworthy, then when you're faced with a choice, to take a vaccine, or to not take a vaccine, then you're going to give more weight to the concept that the vaccine is not to be trusted.

In a normal society, the fringe beliefs held by paranoid delusional people tend to be isolated from the general public, but now we have 'social media' where the biggest companies in the world use their technology to force feed the most provocative 'media' directly to people's eyes, using algorithms that know what would be most likely to hold each persons attention and delivering them that content regardless of how accurate or politically charged it is.

It happens subconsciously, and this 'curated feed' social media model that we have fallen into over the past decade is patently harmful and is destroying the ability of people to distinguish truth from fiction

A guy sat down to my brother in 1995, in a pub. He had a conspiracy theory about the Catholic Church raping children and the hierarchy knowing about it and transferring pedos between dioceses. And that the pope knew! And the police and journalists, or some of them. And nuns! Rapist nuns! Child killing nuns! They were all involved. He said thousands knew about it but it was all hushed hushed.

Quite the conspiracy nut, that guy.

Zebra3

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

Tony Holohan plotting to keep the ordinary man away from the demon drink by closing the pubs during a pandemic.

The people who think this nonsense are complete narcissists. Nobody cares about anyone else’s drinking habits.

That is untrue.

HBC08

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Iv done quite well out of it bar the odd spelling mistake,
Surely you can forgive me, also typing from a phone doesn't help the matter

Were you typing on your phone when you came up with your username too!?