Will Hooters ever come to Ireland?

I Am The Law

When lockdown is over, wouldn't Hooters be a great place to spend the evening, good food, few pints, check out the talent?

i can see a few of the Times and Examiners female "journalists" having a big hissy fit about it, if it was to happen

ted1

No, society has moved on.

nullzero

All our problems in this country boil down to not having Hooters bars.

nullzero

Frida Obedient Thriftiness wrote: »

i can see a few of the Times and Examiners female "journalists" having a big hissy fit about it, if it was to happen

They could open the male equivalent, Gooters.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Hooters is amateur hour really compared to the burger bar I was in a while back in Vegas.

Big juicy burgers and we'll everything really ! and topless/braless waitresses

ancapailldorcha

I Am The Law wrote: »

When lockdown is over, wouldn't Hooters be a great place to spend the evening, good food, few pints, check out the talent?

No.

fryup

after what happened to Stringfellows, not a chance

whisky_galore

Lol. We would have people protesting and saying rosaries outside for the poor girls' souls.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

fryup wrote: »

after what happened to Stringfellows, not a chance

That was a joke really,

Don't get me wrong I've no real desire to go to a string fellow club but the people protesting age delusional. It's like they play ignorance that if they don't see it then it doesn't exist. Then you have the bible bashers saying "sin sin sin"

Sorry but ireland needs to get over itself and move on, just like the rest of modern europe / america's etc

peasant

10 points for the perfect question ...for the day that's in it and all

Quantum Erasure

What's the food like?

Gregor Samsa

Not sure why Hooters is being mentioned in the same breath as Stringfellows and legalised prostitution. Passed the one in the Mall Of America in Minneapolis one time, and there was a kid’s birthday party going on inside.

Ok, so the waiting staff are all women and wear the tight T-shirts, but it’s pretty much Benny Hill level of eroticism.

L1011

It would be illegal to only hire female wait staff in Ireland. Do you want to ogle guys in tight tshirts too?

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

L1011 wrote: »

It would be illegal to only hire female wait staff in Ireland. Do you want to ogle guys in tight tshirts too?

That's not true

If that's the case you better get onto someone to go around and close half of the countries women's hair salons

Dr. Bre

Who gives a hoot

buried

When lockdown is over, going out to a leaf thatched hut being served last months bacon and cabbage by the corpse of Peig Sayers with a pint of drainwater to wash it all down will make for a far better evening than this current $hite, never mind hooters

L1011

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

That's not true

If that's the case you better get onto someone to go around and close half of the countries women's hair salons

Its entirely true. Its been illegal for decades. You cannot descriminate by sex in employment purposes no matter how you wish to.

Your comparison to provision of services is irrelevant as its different legislation. Pretty much every womans hair salon in the country will do guys hair, btw - its generally barbers that won't do womens hair.

davetherave

Checking out the talent

Are you sure it's not a knocking shop that you are looking for? Or the greyhound track?

I Am The Law

davetherave wrote: »

Are you sure it's not a knocking shop that you are looking for? Or the greyhound track?

Or the mart.

c montgomery

L1011 wrote: »

It would be illegal to only hire female wait staff in Ireland. Do you want to ogle guys in tight tshirts too?

It's illegal to discriminate.

Its not illegal to have a load of Busty young ladies serving food in a restaurant. It should be encouraged.

Mad_maxx

whisky_galore wrote: »

Lol. We would have people protesting and saying rosaries outside for the poor girls' souls.

More likely to be WOKE feminists protesting these days

L1011

c montgomery wrote: »

It's illegal to discriminate.

Its not illegal to have a load of Busty young ladies serving food in a restaurant. It should be encouraged.

If a suitably qualified man applied and was not given the job due to not being busty and female, he would be able to clean them out for discrimination.

You can't advertise jobs as looking for women (or men) only. You can't hire on that basis. You will be bankrupt pretty fast if you try to.

cnocbui

I Am The Law wrote: »

When lockdown is over, wouldn't Hooters be a great place to spend the evening, good food, few pints, check out the talent?

International Women's Day made you think of this?

c montgomery

L1011 wrote: »

If a suitably qualified man applied and was not given the job due to not being busty and female, he would be able to clean them out for discrimination.

You can't advertise jobs as looking for women (or men) only. You can't hire on that basis. You will be bankrupt pretty fast if you try to.

Ya a man could apply, doesn't mean you have to employ them.

breezy1985

L1011 wrote: »

If a suitably qualified man applied and was not given the job due to not being busty and female, he would be able to clean them out for discrimination.

You can't advertise jobs as looking for women (or men) only. You can't hire on that basis. You will be bankrupt pretty fast if you try to.

Interviews are subjective so there is no way to prove he is suitably qualified in a hospitality setting and no way to prove it's down to breast size unless you are stupid enough to put it on the application or advert

L1011

c montgomery wrote: »

Ya a man could apply, doesn't mean you have to employ them.

It does, if they are the most suitable candidate for the job

If they can prove the only reason they weren't hired was due to being male, you'll be on the hook for five figures compo

When every waiter in the country realises there's a payday from applying and being refused; you'll be bankrupt.

breezy1985 wrote: »

Interviews are subjective so there is no way to prove he is suitably qualified in a hospitality setting and no way to prove it's down to breast size unless you are stupid enough to put it on the application or advert

Pretty bloody easy to prove its down to gender when you can show they have no male waiters.

They would be sued in to the ground.

bazza1

Would there be anything to be said for saying another mass, then, Father?

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

L1011 wrote: »

Its entirely true. Its been illegal for decades. You cannot descriminate by sex in employment purposes no matter how you wish to.

Your comparison to provision of services is irrelevant as its different legislation. Pretty much every womans hair salon in the country will do guys hair, btw - its generally barbers that won't do womens hair.

You picked that up wrong

I am talking about the people employed at the women hair dressers as in atleast half of them in the country are owned , operated and employ women only. Go get them closed down... It won't happen.

But I'd you're talking about that then why for years haven't people gone after its4women.ie for discriminating on car insurance for women only ?

buried

L1011 wrote: »

If a suitably qualified man applied and was not given the job due to not being busty and female, he would be able to clean them out for discrimination.

You can't advertise jobs as looking for women (or men) only. You can't hire on that basis. You will be bankrupt pretty fast if you try to.

They could set up a separate sister establishment with male only employees and call it 'Flute'rs'

L1011

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

You picked that up wrong

I am talking about the people employed at the women hair dressers as in atleast half of them in the country are owned , operated and employ women only. Go get them closed down... It won't happen.

But I'd you're talking about that then why for years haven't people gone after its4women.ie for discriminating on car insurance for women only ?

The majority of people who cut hair for a living in Ireland are women; but there are plenty of men working in womens hair salons including many of the "superstar" stylists who charge insane amounts of money.

its4women insure men. Always have.

buried wrote: »

They could set up a separate sister establishment with male only employees and call it 'Flute'rs'

And they would not be entitled to hire only men either.

I Am The Law

cnocbui wrote: »

International Women's Day made you think of this?

Absolutely, and I will defend their right to wear tight T-Shirts with every fibre of my being.

c montgomery

L1011 wrote: »

It does, if they are the most suitable candidate for the job

If they can prove the only reason they weren't hired was due to being male, you'll be on the hook for five figures compo

When every waiter in the country realises there's a payday from applying and being refused; you'll be bankrupt.



Pretty bloody easy to prove its down to gender when you can show they have no male waiters.

They would be sued in to the ground.

And just how are you going to prove it is my point.
Builders down the road only have guys working there, nail bar only women.

If hooters opened down the road I'd expect only women to be server's. If a guy wants to apply so be it, they could alway say he messed up the interview.

I was in the hooters in Vegas at 4am before, servers were about 50 years old and rough as sandpaper. Their not all Barbie lookalikes

L1011

c montgomery wrote: »

And just how are you going to prove it is my point.
Builders down the road only have guys working there, nail bar only women.

If hooters opened down the road I'd expect only women to be server's. If a guy wants to apply so be it, they could alway say he messed up the interview.

I was in the hooters in Vegas at 4am before, servers were about 50 years old and rough as sandpaper. Their not all Barbie lookalikes

There are very few female builders

There are very few male nail technicians. Neither employer is making stuff up to refuse to hire men.

There are huge, huge numbers of male wait staff.

It would be facile to prove discrimination and a massive pay day for every lad that applied.

buried

L1011 wrote: »

And they would not be entitled to hire only men either.

Ahh yeah of course, sure somebody is going to have to cook the food in the place

FileNotFound

Sadly I think the PC culture would stop it as soon as we grew enough to get over old fogeys stopping it

I Am The Law

c montgomery wrote: »

And just how are you going to prove it is my point.
Builders down the road only have guys working there, nail bar only women.

If hooters opened down the road I'd expect only women to be server's. If a guy wants to apply so be it, they could alway say he messed up the interview.

I was in the hooters in Vegas at 4am before, servers were about 50 years old and rough as sandpaper. Their not all Barbie lookalikes

50! Now I'm really exited.

L1011

buried wrote: »

Ahh yeah of course, sure somebody is going to have to cook the food in the place

You can't whitewash refusing to hire male waiters by pointing to the kitchen; but anyway there are plenty of women working in commercial kitchens

If Hooters came to Ireland, there'll be male waiters too or they'll be sued out of existence. And that's why they won't come to Ireland.

c montgomery

L1011 wrote: »

There are very few female builders

There are very few male nail technicians. Neither employer is making stuff up to refuse to hire men.

There are huge, huge numbers of male wait staff.

It would be facile to prove discrimination and a massive pay day for every lad that applied.

Ya I heard your broken record, just don't agree.

By the way I wouldn't be too bothered with a guy server, herself might want to go then too.

FileNotFound

L1011 wrote: »

You can't whitewash refusing to hire male waiters by pointing to the kitchen; but anyway there are plenty of women working in commercial kitchens

If Hooters came to Ireland, there'll be male waiters too or they'll be sued out of existence. And that's why they won't come to Ireland.

Just so sad... As a man i fully support a restaurant not employing our gender - perfectly acceptable to hide us in the back

L1011

c montgomery wrote: »

Ya I heard your broken record, just don't agree.

You can't chose to not agree with the actual law.

No nonsense workarounds come up with by someone here will actually work. They'd be broke in months from the compo.

c montgomery

FileNotFound wrote: »

Sadly I think the PC culture would stop it as soon as we grew enough to get over old fogeys stopping it

PC, the new Catholic Church

breezy1985

L1011 wrote: »

Pretty bloody easy to prove its down to gender when you can show they have no male waiters.

They would be sued in to the ground.

In regards to a place called Hooters ya it would be pretty easy to prove what they were up to. I just meant a pub in general. Strip clubs must have some way round it though

Hopefully we never get one because US pubs are absolutely crap amd the less food and table service we see in pubs post lockdown the better

davetherave

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

L1011 wrote: »

It would be illegal to only hire female wait staff in Ireland. Do you want to ogle guys in tight tshirts too?

That's not true

If that's the case you better get onto someone to go around and close half of the countries women's hair salons

It most definitly is.

Employment Equality Act, 1998

Discrimination for the purposes of this Act.
6.—(1) For the purposes of this Act, discrimination shall be taken to occur where, on any of the grounds in subsection (2) (in this Act referred to as “the discriminatory grounds”), one person is treated less favourably than another is, has been or would be treated.

(2) As between any 2 persons, the discriminatory grounds (and the descriptions of those grounds for the purposes of this Act) are—

(a) that one is a woman and the other is a man (in this Act referred to as “the gender ground”),



Advertising.
10.—(1) A person shall not publish or display, or cause to be published or displayed, an advertisement which relates to employment and which—

(a) indicates an intention to discriminate.


Offences: general provisions.:
100.—(1) A person who is guilty of an offence under any provision of this Act shall be liable—

(a) on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding £1,500 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 1 year or both, or

(b) on conviction on indictment, to a fine not exceeding £25,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 2 years or both.

FileNotFound

Change the law I say

Sure nobody will mind if we allow discrimination against the lads.

buried

L1011 wrote: »

You can't whitewash refusing to hire male waiters by pointing to the kitchen; but anyway there are plenty of women working in commercial kitchens

If Hooters came to Ireland, there'll be male waiters too or they'll be sued out of existence. And that's why they won't come to Ireland.

lol I'm not refusing anybody anything. And of course they never will come here, there's no market for it, I'm just having a laugh but you're smoking too much of that uppity woke leaf to even have a laugh about it

c montgomery

L1011 wrote: »

You can't whitewash refusing to hire male waiters by pointing to the kitchen; but anyway there are plenty of women working in commercial kitchens

If Hooters came to Ireland, there'll be male waiters too or they'll be sued out of existence. And that's why they won't come to Ireland.

There's loads of hooters across Europe, do we not have the same discrimination laws as them for the most part?

Sleeper12

Steve Nolan wrote:

It would. And it would good too if we grew up about sex and legalised prostitution.

I can't believe prostitution was brought up in the same thread as Hooters. Hooters is a family friendly restaurant.

L1011

c montgomery wrote: »

There's loads of hooters across Europe, do we not have the same discrimination laws as them for the most part?

There's one in England and two in Germany; that seems to be about it. There were a lot more in the UK but they failed, woefully.

They would also employ men.

davetherave

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

But I'd you're talking about that then why for years haven't people gone after its4women.ie for discriminating on car insurance for women only ?

There's nothing stopping a bloke getting insurance through its4women. Moreover, the quote is the exact same if you put in the same details, age, car reg, address, driving experience and tick the male instead of female box....

ohnonotgmail

L1011 wrote: »

You can't whitewash refusing to hire male waiters by pointing to the kitchen; but anyway there are plenty of women working in commercial kitchens

If Hooters came to Ireland, there'll be male waiters too or they'll be sued out of existence. And that's why they won't come to Ireland.

Not that I am disagreeing with what you are saying but how do Hooters in the UK get away with it? Dont they have very similar discrimination laws?