WWE Raw Superthread

Cherry_Cola

Great show! HHH really turning it around. Nice timing as I have Smackdown in Seattle Sept 9th and Raw in Portland the 12th. Took a hiatus from shows in favour of music but not a bad set of shows to get back into it!

JP Liz V1

Johnny Wrestling on Raw to feud with heel Theory is a good way to go, they have history and Theory is a hated heel to get Johnny over as a face

Rhea as Judgement leader works, the group now is coming together imho

Was that a once off face KO?

Talk of Trish wanting to return for another match but as a heel, she is very over but maybe against Becky or Bianca it might work

CastorTroy

Think the guy attacking AJ was a decoy since it was assumed Dexter was there for AJ in previous weeks so Dexter arranged it.

Trish still looking well. But did we find out why she was there since she said she was there for the Edge match and to say something.

Pretty much everyone made to look good on that episode with plenty of time given. And Canada not being bizarro land.

Lord TSC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119511735#Comment_119511735

I reckon it’s going to be face KO Savin Sami when the USO’s eventually turn on him. Give us KO and Sami with a tag title run.

Necro

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119512331#Comment_119512331

I agree but would like a slow burn rather than them rushing it. Rumble would be a perfect time to pull that trigger with a couple of hints along the way leading to a big title match at Mania.

PTH2009

I wonder will some fans dress up in riot gear and try copy Lumis and co

Lord TSC

For those interested, the Lumis story actually continued on NXT last night.

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Lumis reunited with Indi and was then arrested by the police.

CastorTroy

When Raw started, I forgot about Seth so my first thought was "Why is Riddle attacking Nakamura?"

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119513717#Comment_119513717

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But have they found Miz? Do we know if he's ok?

PTH2009

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119514438#Comment_119514438

He's fine

hynesie08

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119514438#Comment_119514438

If American cops are involved when it happened in Canada, we have to assume the worst.........

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119514438#Comment_119514438

Has his balls size changed 😁

Cornette not impressed with Gargano's return

I know there’s a segment of the audience that appreciates his technical brilliance in the ring, even though he’s bland, expressionless, personality-less and couldn’t sell p*ssy on a troop train much less a ticket to a wrestling match.

But can’t we all agree that they’re going a little too far on Twitter, when this was headlines it was ‘Oh my God Johnny Gargano’s back!’ It was like Cena has come back full time. Or my god, here’s Steve Austin in his prime. Are they going a little a little overboard on this? I know he’s a Triple H guy. And that’s probably why he sat at home and did his daddy thing with his new baby and just waited and figured Well f*ck, Vince is older than I am. He’ll die eventually.”

grames_bond

"Cornette not impressed"

F*cking shocker! 🤣

JP Liz V1

Miz returns Monday to face Lashley

I'm guessing when Kai & Sky win the titles tonight Naomi & Sasha walk out and say they are the champions setting up a match in Wales next weekend.

daithi1989

Kai and Sky are in the 6 woman tag match for Cardiff already, so unlikely.

JP Liz V1

Kurt Angle is on

Agent Coulson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119538488#Comment_119538488

Will Kai en Sky choppy choppy your pee pee

JP Liz V1

Shooosh Off

Riddle and Rollins getting personal, their CATC match should be intense

Lord TSC

Gable is so fun. Glad he’s getting the chance to show off his stuff every week now. The Yeet on Otis was hilarious too.

Rollins and Riddle segment was intense. And the move towards Sami/KO vs Usos progressing nicely too.

Necro

Interesting decision in the tag tournament final... I suspect they don't want Sky and Kai buried when Sasha and Naomi make their big return, only way it really makes sense to me

J. Marston

Riddle and Rollins segment was great, one of the best segments of the year. Definitely an homage to Cormier/Jones too, for whoever hasn't seen it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BT1zrUnuKw

Cotts72

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119541141#Comment_119541141

Thinking the exact same thing. I could also see a Raquel heel turn aswell to execute it

CastorTroy

Was on tvline earlier before I could watch Raw and they had the headline of the tag match winners with a photo, so had that spoiled on me. The test now is will they give them a chance before taking the titles off them again. They got the main event spot here but in the Vince days they wouldn't be seen again for weeks, maybe. Thing is, between the 2 of them, I can't remember a single promo they've done on the main roster.

I see Dominik decided to go for his Papi's hairstyle.

How could Kurt and Gable not mention Gable teaming with Kurt's son?

JP Liz V1

Priest impressed on the mic

Edge with Kurt still funny

CastorTroy

I think it's just Kai's setup for a finisher, but did Raquel kick out of Io's finisher in a tag match? If they wanted that, I think Aliyah should've broke the pin up.

ThePott

Good Raw with some big highlights.

The Cormier/Jones promo with Riddle/Rollins totally got me invested in a feud I didn't care for, awesome. Also want to give praise to a promo I haven't seen many mention which was the Gargano/Theory one. Really loved Theory's delivery here.

Loved the continuing of the Lumis/Miz stuff. They have managed to get Lumis so over it's impressive and it was very creatively handled this week, loved the security guard fake-out. As an aside, I don't know why Ciampa had body glitter on but it did make me chuckle compared to his past personas.

Between Kurt this week and Trish last week they've done a good job of incorporating legends lately. I absolutely bust my ass laughing at Sami's entrance with the Usos, it was gas and can't wait to see where the KO story goes with him and Sami and also liked them actually acknowledging how the cost him his chance against Roman, continuity!

The big controversy I'm sure is the finish to the Women's tag. Have mixed feelings leaning towards being more positive to it. Sky and Kai were the obvious choice so in that way it was a nice surprise upset but, damn I would have liked them to win but with the 6 woman tag in Cardiff I was sort of okay with them not having the belts. Which if we're honest are mid-card belts and while it would be nice to see their profile raised, I also think it is a good boost for Raquel and Aaliyah (even though I think Raquel is more deserving of that spot). I did like seeing the babyfaces being smart for a change though. It's also one of the reasons I'm not sure about Naomi and Banks coming back for the tag belts as I think they have more potential (Sasha especially) as singles stars.

The best thing I can say about Raw these days is that it's no longer a surprise to say that it's good and that's so refreshing after recent years.

JP Liz V1

Miz taking on Bobby in a steel cage

Braun and Indi rumoured to be on Raw

PTH2009

Interesting to see where they will go with Mysterios. Is Dom now with Judgement Day or is he a lone wolf who hates everyone

Rey vs Dom is going be an awkward enough match in this era (Vince vs Shane was in the attitude era and that Vince vs Stephanie thing was **** odd)

Dominik should head to NXT in that way he can do his own thing and get more in ring experience

PTH2009

Its goth Domink Mysterio

Another Edge injury angle ?

PTH2009

Braun is back and by god he's in great shape

gerrybbadd

Moment / Camera work of the year

Loughc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119577428#Comment_119577428

I like Braun but the problem I’ve always had with the monster build is there’s only one place for them to go and that’s down the card.

Braun feels like he’s forever hovering around the top of the card but they never pull with trigger and now with Roman still having both belts they will definitely won’t be pulling the trigger.

Lord TSC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119577744#Comment_119577744

Ultimately though, he’s still got a massively unique look, in terms of build and presence. He’s a monster, and I was shocked Vince ever let him go.

The Lumis shot was pure art.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119578084#Comment_119578084

I don't think there's any coincidence that the likes of Braun, Kross, Nia Jax etc were anti vax clowns and I think that was part of Vince's thinking when letting them go. I think Sasha was the only one that was kept (and it was rumoured Mandy Rose was demoted to NXT for not getting it).

Sure look at the Smackdown from Canada a few weeks ago. Kross couldn't appear live because you had to be vaccinated to get into Canada (some girl from NXT couldn't appear as well). And I'm nearly sure the big money show in Saudi, you have to be vaccinated to get into the country. Definitely think it was part of Vince's thinking.

Necro

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I just don't know where he fits anymore though with both belts on Roman presently. Do they run that feud back for the winter? We know he won't be dropping the titles to Braun so it seems kinda pointless. And what then for him? I mean I guess a match with Lashley might be a decent call?

TonySniff

His narrative has been controlled.

TimesArrow

I’m not a fan of Strowman in real life but he defiantly has something. I hope they give us something difference with this version of him. I know he can talk ( probably best he doesn’t say much) but a mouthpiece wouldn’t be the worst thing.

titan18

I wouldn't mind a feud with Roman. We know he'll lose but you can put him strong anyway by having him run right through Usos, Sikoa and Sami before Roman can stop him. Like a spot where he charges around the ring smashing the bloodline only to stopped by a spear would be fun. You could also spin that off into that Sami/Owens story and have Braun smash Sami and Owens comes to defend him.

Lord TSC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119578292#Comment_119578292

Putting over other baby faces and heels, ultimately.

I think Vince had a mindset, similar to what you are saying, where if he isn’t challenging for the title, then he’s seemingly not realistically able to do anything else. But he can be an upper mid card guy extremely easily, and step up and down as needed.

Lashley, Gunther, have a called up Bron Breaker going over him would be huge. Kross too. That’s just sticking with “bigger powerhouse” styles.

Big Show wasn’t just a top level guy. He could have feuds with plenty of midcarder as nessecarily, despite his size.

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119578489#Comment_119578489

Braun as a bodyguard for Max Dupri and his "models"

ThePott

I definitely see there being value in bringing back Braun, I mean people like to be a bit revisionist but he was majorly over for a a lot of his run, he got a crazy pop last night even. Just have him be the giant doing crazy stuff like flipping ambulances and the lot.

As for his role, he may occasionally win a big match but his role is as a special attraction, doing some big spectacle spots that smaller wrestlers can't and giving wrestlers the rub of beating him after. The guy himself seems like a tool but I'm looking forward to what they do with him and don't think they have anyone like him on the roster.

JP Liz V1

So Rhea has made Dom a man

CastorTroy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119580748#Comment_119580748

But which of them does "Dom" apply to most?

What happened with Braun's Thomas the Tank Engine? Did he slip and that's why Gable jumped out of the way?

I like how they have stuff happening in the background. Like this week we had Nikki arguing with Doudrop and throwing her jacket and mask at her before walking off.

I guess it was supposedly Braun who flipped the car?

PTH2009

Maybe Rey and Edge are in on something with Dom and are fooling the Judgement Day lads

Agent Coulson

So Dom is now a sub

JP Liz V1

Who will Gargano face tonight, too soon for Theory, maybe Gable or Veer?

Cotts72

KO is a rocket.. WWE need to get that Raw belt on him. He's been top class since they made him relevant

Necro

Absolutely bizarre booking to give Raquel and Aaliyah the belts then drop them not three weeks later. They should never have had them in the first place, let's be honest.

Loughc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119610666#Comment_119610666

I think they only put the belts on them to shock the crowd as everyone was expecting damage control to win the tournament.

I do feel like Raw is losing some momentum it had built up under HHH and settling back into old ways.