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RacingTV

  • 20-02-2021 1:41pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭


    I thought those muddaphuckers in RTV had all the TV rights, they don't seem to have Ascot? I assume they will be showing Cheltenham.

    FYI I signed up for RTV when I was a Sky Customer and could watch on telly, moved to Virgin and rang RTV to see if they can change me to Virgin and I was told if I want to watch on telly I have to pay Virgin €26 a month aswell as RTV. Just in case you are thinking of signing up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    Shemale wrote: »
    I thought those muddaphuckers in RTV had all the TV rights, they don't seem to have Ascot? I assume they will be showing Cheltenham.

    FYI I signed up for RTV when I was a Sky Customer and could watch on telly, moved to Virgin and rang RTV to see if they can change me to Virgin and I was told if I want to watch on telly I have to pay Virgin €26 a month aswell as RTV. Just in case you are thinking of signing up.




    If you have an amazon stick (there only £20) you can use the racing TV app.



    Also you can get racing tv for €12 a month a few times a year (this year i signed up again during the Dublin racing festival for €12 a month for 12 months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Shemale


    aidankkk wrote: »
    If you have an amazon stick (there only £20) you can use the racing TV app.



    Also you can get racing tv for €12 a month a few times a year (this year i signed up again during the Dublin racing festival for €12 a month for 12 months.


    Cheers, I was going to get one. I was surprised that the suggestion from RTV was to pay twice. I signed up on Black Friday so got it for €12 a month.


  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Shemale wrote: »
    I thought those muddaphuckers in RTV had all the TV rights, they don't seem to have Ascot? I assume they will be showing Cheltenham.

    FYI I signed up for RTV when I was a Sky Customer and could watch on telly, moved to Virgin and rang RTV to see if they can change me to Virgin and I was told if I want to watch on telly I have to pay Virgin €26 a month aswell as RTV. Just in case you are thinking of signing up.


    They haven't had Ascot in a year or more. I think they lost/swapped two with Sky Sports Racing. Sky lost Chelmsford to RTV at the time - can't think of the other two tracks.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭smellyoldboot


    Android box/Firestick- Moreiptv- €120 for the year. Watch whatever you want, whenever you want.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 rubia6633


    Android box/Firestick- Moreiptv- €120 for the year. Watch whatever you want, whenever you want.

    Can get a good sub for 75 or so a year these days for an IPTV provider


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Shemale


    They haven't had Ascot in a year or more. I think they lost/swapped two with Sky Sports Racing. Sky lost Chelmsford to RTV at the time - can't think of the other two tracks.

    Cheers, haven't seen much racing in the last couple of year, was surprised to see they didn't show it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Shemale


    Android box/Firestick- Moreiptv- €120 for the year. Watch whatever you want, whenever you want.

    Thanks, music to my ears :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭smellyoldboot


    Shemale wrote: »
    Thanks, music to my ears :D

    Use the contact thing on the site and ask for a trial first. They'll send you a code that's good for 3 days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,967 ✭✭✭Sultan of Bling


    They haven't had Ascot in a year or more. I think they lost/swapped two with Sky Sports Racing. Sky lost Chelmsford to RTV at the time - can't think of the other two tracks.


    Chester and bangor on dee


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Shemale


    Does anyone know how much slower the RTV app is than the TV?

    I don't have it on the TV as I moved from Sky, I was coming back from shops watching live stream on Bet365 and when I got into the kitchen where I had RTV app playing I realised their app was at least 10 seconds BEHIND Bet365.

    Anyone noticed this before, seems barmy as Bet365 say their feed is about 10 seconds behind.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Labaik


    How far behind would Racing tv on Sky be? You can get some great value in running but you wouldnt want to be more than a few seconds behind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Shemale


    Labaik wrote: »
    How far behind would Racing tv on Sky be? You can get some great value in running but you wouldnt want to be more than a few seconds behind.

    The TV used to be a bit ahead of the bookies, that said sometimes you would see odds in running that make no sense like a horse pulling double was 10/1 and in a few seconds it has clouted a fence.

    Yesterday made me wonder if the bookies get the feed a bit ahead of the RTV customers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,006 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Shemale wrote: »
    The TV used to be a bit ahead of the bookies, that said sometimes you would see odds in running that make no sense like a horse pulling double was 10/1 and in a few seconds it has clouted a fence.

    Yesterday made me wonder if the bookies get the feed a bit ahead of the RTV customers.

    Of course they do. Bookies get a raw feed - It’s the same as all sports.

    They pay millions a year for it to their data providers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭Motivator


    Shemale wrote: »
    The TV used to be a bit ahead of the bookies, that said sometimes you would see odds in running that make no sense like a horse pulling double was 10/1 and in a few seconds it has clouted a fence.

    Yesterday made me wonder if the bookies get the feed a bit ahead of the RTV customers.

    Bookies get the SIS feed which is 6 to 9 seconds ahead of the regular tv feed. Pro punters & bookies pay thousands a year for SIS so they have the edge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭abarkie


    Labaik wrote: »
    How far behind would Racing tv on Sky be? You can get some great value in running but you wouldnt want to be more than a few seconds behind.

    About 8 to 10 seconds

    If you look at sateliweb - you can sometimes see horse racing feeds on there that are Free to Air

    Motorised dish required, generally speaking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Never got into in running but do remember a few lads would get excited whenever TG4 were screening live racing as they seemed to have quicker than normal feeds for broadcast tv. Dunno if thats still the case though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 823 ✭✭✭Kauto


    Racing TV is no more than 2 seconds behind live. Have timed it myself in the last week.

    Sky Sports racing is at least 7 seconds behind


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭abarkie


    Kauto wrote: »
    Racing TV is no more than 2 seconds behind live. Have timed it myself in the last week.

    Sky Sports racing is at least 7 seconds behind

    What are you comparing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 823 ✭✭✭Kauto


    Standing at a particular hurdle on track while on the phone to someone watching on TV. Less than 2 seconds of a differential. BF market suspends just before they pass the line on TV.

    On ATR market is suspended when they still have 1F to run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Shanee.


    abarkie wrote: »
    About 8 to 10 seconds

    If you look at sateliweb - you can sometimes see horse racing feeds on there that are Free to Air

    Motorised dish required, generally speaking

    RUK is a second behind on UK tracks maybe 1.5 on Irish Tracks. ATR is 8 seconds behind. Betfair feeds on the exchange are about 3 seconds behind live on ATR tracks and about 1.5 on RUK. Its pretty much the same as a RUK sub watching it on Betfair Live Video


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Shanee.


    callaway92 wrote: »
    Of course they do. Bookies get a raw feed - It’s the same as all sports.

    They pay millions a year for it to their data providers.

    Incorrect if your talking about SIS feeds. You can watch the exact same thing on Betfair live video


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭abarkie


    Shanee. wrote: »
    RUK is a second behind on UK tracks maybe 1.5 on Irish Tracks. ATR is 8 seconds behind. Betfair feeds on the exchange are about 3 seconds behind live on ATR tracks and about 1.5 on RUK. Its pretty much the same as a RUK sub watching it on Betfair Live Video

    But my post refers to other feeds?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Shanee.


    abarkie wrote: »
    But my post refers to other feeds?

    Which other feeds? You said racing tv on sky.

    Racing TV on sky is the same as the Betfair live video which so 1-1.5 seconds behind


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭abarkie


    Shanee. wrote: »
    Which other feeds? You said racing tv on sky.

    Racing TV on sky is the same as the Betfair live video which so 1-1.5 seconds behind

    Please quote where I said Racing TV on sky

    I'll refrain from posting further


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Shanee.


    abarkie wrote: »
    Please quote where I said Racing TV on sky

    I'll refrain from posting further

    Labaik - “How far behind would Racing tv on Sky be? You can get some great value in running but you wouldnt want to be more than a few seconds behind.”

    You “About 8 to 10 seconds

    If you look at sateliweb - you can sometimes see horse racing feeds on there that are Free to Air

    Motorised dish required, generally speaking”

    ???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,006 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Shanee. wrote: »
    Incorrect if your talking about SIS feeds. You can watch the exact same thing on Betfair live video

    No - For bookies on their end, for live betting they receive a raw feed. Same with all other sports that they get - The viewer on the punters' side doesn't get the raw feed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Shanee.


    callaway92 wrote: »
    No - For bookies on their end, for live betting they receive a raw feed. Same with all other sports that they get - The viewer on the punters' side doesn't get the raw feed.

    Are you talking about feeds in a bookie shop? Bookmakers get feeds from SIS, it’s the same feeds which are on Racing TV. What feeds are you talking about?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,006 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Shanee. wrote: »
    Are you talking about feeds in a bookie shop? Bookmakers get feeds from SIS, it’s the same feeds which are on Racing TV. What feeds are you talking about?

    No - I'm talking about feeds that bookies receive directly that they update their live betting off-of.

    The feeds that punters see in the shop (via SIS) are like any other TV feed. There's a lot of transmission involved making it impossible to be 'live', like any sport shown on TV screens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Shanee.


    callaway92 wrote: »
    No - I'm talking about feeds that bookies receive directly that they update their live betting off-of.

    The feeds that punters see in the shop (via SIS) are like any other TV feed. There's a lot of transmission involved making it impossible to be 'live', like any sport shown on TV screens.

    They may have in the past but I know for fact (as I have tested it) that Racing TV is only 1/1.5 seconds behind live action. Betfair Live Video is Racing TV just not in HD quality


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,006 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Shanee. wrote: »
    They may have in the past but I know for fact (as I have tested it) that Racing TV is only 1/1.5 seconds behind live action. Betfair Live Video is Racing TV just not in HD quality

    1/1.5 seconds from actual live to the TV viewer at home just isn't possible.

    I know you're saying you test it but from my POV, I'm in the Sports Data industry and Betting companies pay us in the seven figures to provide them with the raw feeds which would be upwards of 6 seconds ahead of the feeds that TV viewers receive (still cameras, birds-eye cameras etc is what they'd be getting).

    They wouldn't do that if people watching on TV were getting virtually the exact same feedback.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Shanee.


    callaway92 wrote: »
    1/1.5 seconds from actual live to the TV viewer at home just isn't possible.

    I know you're saying you test it but from my POV, I'm in the Sports Data industry and Betting companies pay us in the seven figures to provide them with the raw feeds which would be upwards of 6 seconds ahead of the feeds that TV viewers receive (still cameras, birds-eye cameras etc is what they'd be getting).

    They wouldn't do that if people watching on TV were getting virtually the exact same feedback.

    Well that’s what it is - I have tested it and I’m sure many more have. There is no feeds 6 seconds ahead of live action in horse racing anyway for certain. Maybe in football but it’s not as lucrative an in running betting proposition as horse racing is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,006 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Shanee. wrote: »
    Well that’s what it is - I have tested it and I’m sure many more have. There is no feeds 6 seconds ahead of live action in horse racing anyway for certain. Maybe in football but it’s not as lucrative an in running betting proposition as horse racing is

    Bit miffed so why betting companies would pay the money they do to receive the raw footage when they can just use TV broadcasts but that’s cool to know...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 823 ✭✭✭Kauto


    callaway92 wrote: »
    Bit miffed so why betting companies would pay the money they do to receive the raw footage when they can just use TV broadcasts but that’s cool to know...

    Tested it myself on track last week. RUK No more than 2 seconds behind if even that.

    ATR is miles behind though at least 6/7 Seconds


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Shanee.


    Kauto wrote: »
    Tested it myself on track last week. RUK No more than 2 seconds behind if even that.

    ATR is miles behind though at least 6/7 Seconds

    ATR miles behind but the Betfair Live Video from ATR tracks is only 2/3 seconds behind


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭abarkie




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭Panrich


    €12 per month deal on today.


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