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Ultimate family car 20k

  • 15-02-2021 12:11pm
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    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 23,153 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Alanstrainor


    Well lads, the time has come. We have a little one on the way and it's time to upgrade one of the motors. We reckon we have 20k to play with for this and our criteria are as follows:

    1. Can't be diesel. This will be a local machine for the most part. That means petrol/hybrid territory.
    2. Boot space. Buggies are huge it seems... so boot space is a big requirement.
    3. Car type. I'm not a fan of SUV types, and would prefer an estate I think. But I don't want to close off options here either so could be talked into one if it fit the bill.
    4. Automatic is almost a must have. I say almost as we could live with a manual I suppose, but auto would definitely be preferred.
    5. Mileage on this will be low. We both drive very little, and even less with covid. I wouldn't expect this car to cover many kms once covid times are over.

    I had been looking at Octavia's, but they are rare enough in estate+petrol guise, and even rarer with an auto box. Then the idea of an Auris tourer/estate popped into my head. It seems to tick all the boxes, big enough, hybrid/auto, reliable. BUT it is the single ugliest vehicle I have ever set my eyes on, perhaps that's an advantage for a car that I want to be able to take rough and tumble stuff.

    So what do you reckon?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,879 ✭✭✭ Tzardine


    Nissan Leaf.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭ kirving


    Merc C350e for that budget and that catagory.

    You might get a Premium Plus in budget if you're lucky, and they're a very nice place to be.


  • Registered Users Posts: 72,778 ✭✭✭✭ colm_mcm


    Crossovers make a lot of sense with kids, it’s easier to lift them in and out and they love being higher up when they’re older.

    I know you’re not a fan, but there’s a reason they’re popular. If herself isn’t opposed to them, I wouldn’t rule one out.

    Also, buggies are only as big as you decide you need. Some of them are ridiculous.

    From an estate driver!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭ Vikings


    My current set of requirements are almost identical to yours.

    I'm currently drawn to the Mitsubishi Outlander phev.

    Think of it like an estate on stilts and you've got bingo on your card!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭ maddness


    kirving wrote: »
    Merc C350e for that budget and that catagory.

    You might get a Premium Plus in budget if you're lucky, and they're a very nice place to be.

    Or a similar 330e.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,768 ✭✭✭ Hurrache


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Crossovers make a lot of sense with kids, it’s easier to lift them in and out and they love being higher up when they’re older.

    I know you’re not a fan, but there’s a reason they’re popular. If herself isn’t opposed to them, I wouldn’t rule one out.

    Also, buggies are only as big as you decide you need. Some of them are ridiculous.

    From an estate driver!

    From a fellow estate driver, with a crossover in the house, crossovers are not much use when it comes to going away for breaks with the family, boot space is pretty poor.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,551 ✭✭✭ whippet


    maddness wrote: »
    Or a similar 330e.

    The 330e for 20k will be an older one and they only came in saloon ... boot is tiny !!


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 LionKing7


    In my opinion SUV would better suit for your requirements. But if you are looking for an estate car following would also be a good choice.

    http://www.enterprisecars.com/vehicles/toyota/corolla/limerick/2726244

    http://www.enterprisecars.com/vehicles/toyota/corolla/limerick/2728428

    Used to drive this Toyota in a different country and I would say it's really nice car. One thing you might need to check is the insurance cost before finalize it. As it is a Hybrid and imported from Japan, not sure whether all the insurance companies will cover it. I checked with a Broker and they gave me a quote.

    Good Luck!


  • Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What are ye upgrading?
    If doing tiny miles and 1 kid ye don't really need the ultimate family car.

    Plug estate, petrol and the budget into carzone and see what tickles your fancy... As you mention an Auris would be grand but it doesn't appeal.

    Your criteria won't throw out too many options so that alone will be informative IMO :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭ LorenzoB


    Buy a smaller buggy!

    https://eire.icandyworld.com/ie/en/lime-pushchair.html

    Now you don't need to take over all the road just because you have the baby.

    May be you save the cost of a new car!


  • Registered Users Posts: 109 ✭✭ knockoutned


    For those who don't like SUV's / crossovers, I cannot recommend a Skoda Suburb enough. The boot space is massive, so it will easily hold a double buggy and still leave you with you room for additional items. The fact that it is a hatch back makes accessing everything even easier. I've driven both the estate and saloon and I would go for the saloon as it's a nicer looking car.

    The second that is great about it it that the cabin is large. That means the when you install car seats, you can still push the front seats back as far as you need, without hitting the car seat. In my experience, the cabin in both SUV's / crossovers are small.


    Manual https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/skoda-superb-active-1-4-tsi-125bhp-4/27151016

    Automatic https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/skoda-superb-active-1-4-tsi-125bhp-4/27151016


  • Registered Users Posts: 50,139 ✭✭✭✭ bazz26


    There are a good few VW Passat estates in petrol and auto about well under your budget. Most are Japanese imports but that wouldn't put me off:
    https://www.carsireland.ie/2628724
    https://www.carsireland.ie/2605055


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭ GustavoFring


    If you’re only doing small miles and it’s just one kid you’re going to be safe enough with any midsized hatch. Octavia 1l tsi dsg might be worth a look, there’s a few around they’re decent enough to drive.

    If you’re planning more then it might be worth the investment. Got an Ateca the other day for herself - handles the buggy and child seats just fine. Haven’t a clue what it’s like to drive as we won’t know until it’s picked up. There’s a good few petrol ones about. Personally I’d have preferred an estate but she did say her back will benefit from the higher up seats.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,951 ✭✭✭ McCrack


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    Put the 18k change into bitcoin and hodl for 5 years


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 23,153 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Alanstrainor


    Thanks all, tonnes of great points and help here.
    Augeo wrote: »
    What are ye upgrading?
    If doing tiny miles and 1 kid ye don't really need the ultimate family car.

    Plug estate, petrol and the budget into carzone and see what tickles your fancy... As you mention an Auris would be grand but it doesn't appeal.

    Your criteria won't throw out too many options so that alone will be informative IMO :)



    We currently have a 2007 Nissan Note. Which you would think would be perfect, but it suffers from a tiny boot. You might get the buggy in, but not much else(even a small one!). And it is an old thing at this point, I've only ever had ancient yokes but at this stage it's time to move up the years.

    And yep, just putting estate and petrol in narrows the field a lot!
    Tzardine wrote: »
    Nissan Leaf.


    A leaf was mentioned, and was one I went looking at, but the budget only affords a high mileage (in electric car terms) in the current model/type with bigger battery. Along with the other parts of the requirements that it doesn't quite fit I'll have to put that in the no pile. Electric will happen, but not for me yet.
    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Crossovers make a lot of sense with kids, it’s easier to lift them in and out and they love being higher up when they’re older.

    I know you’re not a fan, but there’s a reason they’re popular. If herself isn’t opposed to them, I wouldn’t rule one out.

    Also, buggies are only as big as you decide you need. Some of them are ridiculous.

    From an estate driver!

    It's a very good point, and not one easily ignored. I'll have to look around and see what's out there. The Kona is what pops into my head, but obviously there is lots to consider in that category. Need to take a look at the boot space across most models here.

    The buggy decision has been made, I haven't much say in the matter! :P
    Vikings wrote: »
    My current set of requirements are almost identical to yours.

    I'm currently drawn to the Mitsubishi Outlander phev.

    Think of it like an estate on stilts and you've got bingo on your card!

    The Mitsi Outlander PHEV, is one I have been looking closely at actually. I think it does tick all the boxes. I do think they are probably on the expensive side, but there's not many other PHEVs in this price/age bracket. Is there some worry about them given Mitsubishi pulling out of the car business in Europe? I guess for a 2017/18 car, relying on a dealer is not such a big priority.
    If you’re only doing small miles and it’s just one kid you’re going to be safe enough with any midsized hatch. Octavia 1l tsi dsg might be worth a look, there’s a few around they’re decent enough to drive.

    If you’re planning more then it might be worth the investment. Got an Ateca the other day for herself - handles the buggy and child seats just fine. Haven’t a clue what it’s like to drive as we won’t know until it’s picked up. There’s a good few petrol ones about. Personally I’d have preferred an estate but she did say her back will benefit from the higher up seats.

    There is a good point there about a regular non-estate Octavia/Superb. They are big cars and being on here as long as I have I know all too well how big the boots are! Certainly worth mulling over. The 1.0 in the Octavia would more than suffice, we really don't need this car to be a mover. Obviously having a regular hatch style opens things up in terms of number of cars too.




    And what about the Auris tourer hybrid? Asides from the ugly-factor, it does seem to tick all the boxes. Big boot, auto, should be reliable, and the spec seems decent. There's also a few of them about it seems, which is handy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭ wingnut


    Tzardine wrote: »
    Nissan Leaf.

    Buggies? Bootspace


  • Registered Users Posts: 72,778 ✭✭✭✭ colm_mcm


    I think the likes of a Kona is too small, it’s basically a Nissan Note sized car.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,051 ✭✭✭ Truckermal


    LorenzoB wrote: »
    Buy a smaller buggy!

    https://eire.icandyworld.com/ie/en/lime-pushchair.html

    Now you don't need to take over all the road just because you have the baby.

    May be you save the cost of a new car!

    We have that travel system and it's still big! With all that in the back of a A6 Avant you have no room for the weekly shop..


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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭ beertons


    What brand of buggy are you looking at? We had 2 golfs on the go here for a while, and a double buggy in the boot.

    Did someone have a word in your ear about changing?


  • Registered Users Posts: 515 ✭✭✭ Squeaksoutloud




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,691 ✭✭✭ Lia_lia


    I’ve a toddler and we have one car, a 2005 Fiesta. It does the job! Buggy fits in the boot perfectly and actually stays in the car. We never bring it into the house. It’s a an Uppababy Cruz. We also have an extended rear facing seat in there.

    We have no intention on upgrading until we have another child. Plan to either get a focus estate or an Octavia for the next car.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭ noelf




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭ advertsfox


    What about going for a more compact pram instead (i.e not a Bugaboo) that can folds up neatly. Buggies aren't all massive, some are just more style over practicality.

    We use a Egg and it folds up very small and leaves plenty of room in the boot (of a Karoq).

    Also how's an 171 Skoda Octavia 1.4 DSG with 150bhp with 31,000 miles sound for only €14,950?

    https://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/Skoda/Octavia-SE-1.4-TSI-150PS
    DSG-AUTO---LOW-MILES/202009153756734


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭ kirving


    I think the Outlander is incredibly overated on this forum. Yeah it's a big, cheap SUV, but that's about it.

    The Passat GTE would be an excellent candidate. Had a diesel for a week and it was a lovely refined place to be. Superb build quality, excellent gearbox, radar as standard, huge boot. Was very close to buying one in hybrid guise myself, but a 330e won out for other reasons.


  • Registered Users Posts: 305 ✭✭ jt69er


    Looking for something similar budget wise €20k, except no need for buggy at this stage :), 20k mileage per year, no preference on fuel, 2017 - 2018 if possible. Suggestions greatly appreciated.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭ passatman86


    kirving wrote: »
    I think the Outlander is incredibly overated on this forum. Yeah it's a big, cheap SUV, but that's about it.

    The Pattat GTE would be an excellent candidate. Had a diesel for a week and it was a lovely refined place to be. Superb build quality, excellent gearbox, radar as standard, huge boot. Was very close to buying one in hybrid guise myself, but a 330e won out for other reasons.

    Pattat gte.... Do you have a lisp




    Only a joke


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭ kirving


    Pattat gte.... Do you have a lisp

    Only a joke

    Haha corrected! Not sure why that's in autocorrect!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 21 egyman


    If I were you, I would consider Rav 4, hybrid , 2.5 L, with Toyota proven CVT automatic transmission. If you can top up another 10K you could catch the new model 191, if not, you can get a decent 161 (old shape).

    Check the following list:
    https://www.carsireland.ie/search#q?gclid=Cj0KCQiA1KiBBhCcARIsAPWqoSqpJg9ZkALC_oD-4NKSSulDImWqK_YlgU_My04Bj1CgfZdtgxyzbuQaAvQ_EALw_wcB&refinementList%5Bvehicle%5D%5B0%5D=TOYOTA%20Rav4&page=1&menu%5Bfuel_type%5D=Petrol%20Hybrid&ad=2657832


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