England vs Italy 6n 2021

Pudsy33

An England backlash? Or can Italy shock the world Cup finalists?

Have at it

Scratchly

I'm expecting England to still struggle a bit to get back to form. And Italy to be Italy. Could be a messy affair.

UDAWINNER

for the more knowledgable here, why did none of the italians take the knee and some english took it and some stood. Was this agreed beforehand
TIA

Pudsy33

Scratchly wrote: »

I'm expecting England to still struggle a bit to get back to form. And Italy to be Italy. Could be a messy affair.

Me too, I think Italy will be competitive here for large portions of the game.

Scratchly

UDAWINNER wrote: »

for the more knowledgable here, why did none of the italians take the knee and some english took it and some stood. Was this agreed beforehand
TIA

As I understand it. Officially they have a minute silence as a stand against racism. Obviously everyone respects and supports this.

Taking the knee is a show of support for black lives matter. Not everyone supports everything black lives matter stands for. It's got a lot of political and activist shenanigan baggage. Players do it or not as a personal thing.

theVersatile

Gwan Italia!!!

The Inbetween is mine

Jaysus.... unexpected...but get in there!!

Brilliant

almostover

Great to see a referee watch the offside line. England's defence is very ordinary when they are kept onside

Scratchly

Great start for Italy.

razorblunt

Lawes on all fours over his own ball.

Scratchly

Harsh penalty. The reason he still had hands on was because England were holding on.

Ruggabugga101

Harsh.

Wonder if England 'got the right information' this week....Eddy sprouting **** during the week.

The Inbetween is mine

Ford butchered that ...huge overlap out to his right and he went straight into contact

Dave_The_Sheep

Eh, knock on, perhaps?

testtech05

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Eh, knock on, perhaps?

Was hoping they might show a replay. Looked obvious to me.

Try looked like a double movement too.

theVersatile

Double movement on the last angle?

How could they miss that knock on?

almostover

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Eh, knock on, perhaps?

Joy Neville asleep at the wheel there, obvious knock on from May

beggars_bush

Why weren't the Italians screaming for a knock on review?

adam240610

Replay, was a clear knock on, a lot of calls seem to be being missed lately

razorblunt

Massive double movement.

Joy Neville misses quite a few big things in the booth it has to be said.

Ah feck - good few bites of the apple there from Cowan Dickie who's on my team but Hill gets it.

Big knock on missed in the run up there.

razorblunt

beggars_bush wrote: »

Why weren't the Italians screaming for a knock on review?

Have to feel sorry, refs are constantly saying “if there’s something TMO will catch it” when players are shouting and asking and then you see this. Must be infuriating.

razorblunt

Itoje pinged for pancaking on top there. Brilliant.

TomsOnTheRoof

razorblunt wrote: »

Massive double movement.

Joy Neville misses quite a few big things in the booth it has to be said.

Terrible reffing. Held on the ground and walking on his knees.

razorblunt

Italian 8 is a monster.

mfceiling

"itoje plays on the edge"

Actually is illegal a lot of the time and it's good to see refs pull him up on it.

jammiedodgers

A penalty against Itoje :eek::eek::eek:

testtech05

jammiedodgers wrote: »

A penalty against Itoje :eek::eek::eek:

In fairness he was pinged a good few times last week just never got a well overdue yellow and also got away with lots of other calls 🙂

TomsOnTheRoof

Italy need to stay calm. Shooting themselves in the foot.

TomsOnTheRoof

Jesus Christ. Lineout was crooked and the hooker took the throw in front of his own man.

almostover

Slade knocked on there too in that chase

Scratchly

That was surely another knock on by England

IngazZagni

Scratchly wrote: »

That was surely another knock on by England

Italian hand knocked it back

razorblunt

Italian playing Itoje at his own game, holding him into rucks.

I, for one, am all for it. Forza Shenanigans.

razorblunt

Fúck sake, Monye complaining about Italy’s unique tactic of starting their weaker props and subbing them off after 30.

Scratchly

Forward pass.

gally74

Forward

razorblunt

That was surely forward. Maybe both passes.

almostover

Another forward pass missed......

TomsOnTheRoof

I'm not a fan of Quinlan's commentating but he's dead right. Italy struggle to defend outside 12 yet they insist on kicking long to an English back three who know how to exploit the holes in their defence. France did the same last week.

Scratchly

It's hard to feel too sorry for Italy because they're not doing themselves any favors but they're getting royally screwed by the ref.

kilns

England get a lot of referring decisions here so far

razorblunt

What is Joy Neville doing ?

Deub

Did they change the rules last night?
Forward pass and knock on are allowed?

TomsOnTheRoof

Another crooked throw and obstruction. This is atrocious officiating.

razorblunt

Lawes on all fours again.

razorblunt

TomsOnTheRoof wrote: »

Another crooked throw and obstruction. This is atrocious officiating.

I said it last week as unlikely as Italy are to win these games the referees really don’t give them any help at all. There’s a bit of confirmation bias going on at least I think.

pappyodaniel

razorblunt wrote: »

What is Joy Neville doing ?

Looking after the big teams as usual

kilns

First scottish referee in the six nations in something like 18 years. Can see why...