Why are 'anti racist' NGO's so racist to the Irish? *Threadbanned user list in OP*

Howard Beale

One thing I looked into was the anti racist organisation NGO's in Ireland creaming it in from the taxpayer and what they actually do. Having looked at what they do it's very very obvious to me they aren't 'anti racist' moreso anti Irish in my opinion.To undermine anything Nationalist and attack any group they may disagree with total vitriol and hatred whilst lining their pockets as 'activists' (God forbid they ever actually worked a day in their lifes!) Always on their blogs and twitter. Racist Irish this and that. It's incessant. No evidence of course is EVER forthcoming of course.

They are always attacking undermining and slandering people. Always calling the Irish 'racist' or in need of 'reeducation' from their Queens like racist bigot headcases like Ebun Joseph who calls the Irish racist at the drop of a hat. Us Irish are labelled racist/Nazis/white supremacists and God knows what else by these anti Irish racists.

To give an example Peter O Loughlin a primary schoolteacher who started Identity Ireland few year ago. Attacked on Luas head split open by 'anti racist group', then his group launch attacked in Dublin by the 'Anti Racist Network' and incredible effort to thwart him and attack him at the event. A primary school teacher who has concerns on immigration. If you ever spoke to him a more gentle mild mannered erudite softly spoken man you could not meet.

What about when Anti racist Network had a black lady on O'Connell Street during the abortion referendum screaming her head off Irish people are racist, Ireland is racist and men need to 'know their place'. She didn't know hers. The eyes were bulging out of her skull with the rage. It was very surreal to see someone so consumed with hatred to people she doesn't know from a tin of paint!Calling an entire Nation and it's people racist is in my opinion racist. It's slander. Would you arrive in Nigeria get a megaphone and refer to all Nigerians as racists with zero evidence? Same thing.

Look at the Irish Network 'against racism'. They were incredibly derogatory to Gardai over the George Nchencho shooting in their pathetic attempts to virtually make him a saint. I know of a friends missus was in the Europspar the day the BLM mob went to attack them all and the shutters were pulled down. She made a report to INAR of the racists screaming 'white bastards' through the shutters and her report was 100% ignored.
Why? She's a white Irish lady.
You can imagine they definitely take it serious if Irish folk screamed black bastards through shuttering to people barricaded into it for their own safety.In fact media run riot with it 24/7 coverage on the 'racist Irish'.

What about when the 'anti racist NGO's' attacked a free speech rally? More than once. Imagine being against free speech of all things. (The irony free speech helped end slavery is lost on them) They are attacking something that allows them to counter protest ie free speech. They are too ignorant and stupid to realize this!

Ireland has over an eye watering 19,500 NGO's of which they take in over 10 billion a year from the taxpayer and state and the'anti racist' ones seem to create as much tension as possible to keep the gravy train running. They know well they is no Nazi organisation party or group in Ireland but that won't ever stop them going on and on and on and on about the 'far right' boogeyman. Even if he did exist so what? I'd take the far right boogeyman over communism anyday.

It should be obvious to people who eyes open the 'anti racist' lot are creaming it in stealing a living as 'activists' or whatever other nonsense they call themselves. They are steadfast in their opposition to anything Nationalist or Irish and their refusal to even acknowledge bigotry from their own memebers to the Irish illustrates their disdain for the Irish.



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FTA69

Some amount of Justin Barrett muppets on this forum these days.

Howard Beale

FTA69 wrote: »

Some amount of Justin Barrett muppets on this forum these days.

Who is Justin Barrett? Never heard of him.

Could you explain you seem to be a big fan of his.

timmyntc

FTA69 wrote: »

Some amount of Justin Barrett muppets on this forum these days.

Good argument, you really showed him :rolleyes:


OP, there are definitely far too many 'charities' and NGOs in this country. A real lucrative sector, subsisting mostly on taxpayer money.
And while the likes of Ebun Joseph are most definitely racist, you can't really say it publically because you will be labelled a racist instead. You might lose your job, but Ebun Joseph will not be let go from anywhere because then her employer would be racist, etc.

Identity Ireland or whatever they're going by now, are most definitely a bunch of headbangers though

Arthur Daley

And the country has record, unprecedented amounts of debt paying for all this. If you've some vague interest in the future you should have a problem with this waste of hard earned taxes.

FTA69

timmyntc wrote: »

Good argument, you really showed him :rolleyes:


OP, there are definitely far too many 'charities' and NGOs in this country. A real lucrative sector, subsisting mostly on taxpayer money.
And while the likes of Ebun Joseph are most definitely racist, you can't really say it publically because you will be labelled a racist instead. You might lose your job, but Ebun Joseph will not be let go from anywhere because then her employer would be racist, etc.

Identity Ireland or whatever they're going by now, are most definitely a bunch of headbangers though

I’ve little to no time for the race industry or NGOs mate. Equally I’ve no time for far right twats and would be Tommy Robinsons being portrayed as decent folk with a few innocuous concerns.

landofthetree

We could have a Metro North and a light rail system for Cork,Galway and Limerick for the amount we hand over to NGOs every year.

francois

Oh god here we go....again

RandRuns

I would love to know amount of taxpayer money is handed over to non-essential NGO's every year (i.e. NGO's that aren't operating hospitals etc.). It seems to me to be something that the taxpayer should know.
I think a figure for the whole NGO industry, plus a breakdown of spend per area (for instance €XX billion for ant-racism NGO's, €X billion for homeless NGO's etc.).

I think it would be a shock to the Irish public if they knew. And I think that's why we don't know.
NGO's are, without doubt, one of the most efficient ways for politicians to reward friends and supporters, probably even more efficient than government contracts, which are scrutinised more.

Richard Hillman

Those INAR groups seem to pop up everywhere there is a direct provision centre. There's big money in it. They get government funding. And they seem to pop up everywhere that people go against government policy for a protest.

Howard Beale

FTA69 wrote: »

I’ve little to no time for the race industry or NGOs mate. Equally I’ve no time for far right twats and would be Tommy Robinsons being portrayed as decent folk with a few innocuous concerns.

Fair enough but I think I made the point there is no far right in Ireland. We don't even have a single far right party let alone a movement.

It's a boogeyman. Parroted by NGO's and pathological liars in the left. Far right this and that. It's actually parroted by braindead journalists now too. The likes that write for the Independent.

Keeps the NGO's raking it in pretending their are Nazi organisations in Ireland. There are not.

Meanwhile not a mention of far left of which they are 10 a penny and militant black lifes matter loola's who publicity call for gardai to be 'ended' to raucous applause and cheering.

If a right group did that never hear the end of it.

timmyntc

FTA69 wrote: »

I’ve little to no time for the race industry or NGOs mate. Equally I’ve no time for far right twats and would be Tommy Robinsons being portrayed as decent folk with a few innocuous concerns.

Most of OPs post would echo your concerns with the race industry and NGOs then.
Aside from a short paragraph on some Ireland Identity person being picketed, there wasnt much Tommy Robinson-esque stuff there.

Howard Beale

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Those INAR groups seem to pop up everywhere there is a direct provision centre. There's big money in it. They get government funding. And they seem to pop up everywhere that people go against government policy for a protest.

Despite them getting paid very very well to spread anti Irish hatred and racism doesn't stop them gifting and having the begging bowl out. A fundraising for them. As usual no detail provided! And they will get morons to donate that's the thing.

https://www.ifundraise.ie/3693_irish-network-against-racism--inar-.html

FTA69

Howard Beale wrote: »

Fair enough but I think I made the point there is no far right in Ireland. We don't even have a single far right party let alone a movement.

It's a boogeyman. Parroted by NGO's and pathological liars in the left. Far right this and that. It's actually parroted by braindead journalists now too. The likes that write for the Independent.

Keeps the NGO's raking it in pretending their are Nazi organisations in Ireland. There are not.

Meanwhile not a mention of far left of which they are 10 a penny and militant black lifes matter loola's who publicity call for gardai to be 'ended' to raucous applause and cheering.

If a right group did that never hear the end of it.

There is a far right in Ireland consisting of the National Party, the Irish Freedom Party, Síol na hÉireann and the likes of that little tramp O’Loughlin you’re on about - someone who was involved in Pegida which was set up in Germany by groups that included neo-Nazis. I for one am delighted he got thumped anyway, fully deserved.

landofthetree

FTA69 wrote: »

There is a far right in Ireland consisting of the National Party, the Irish Freedom Party, Síol na hÉireann and the likes of that little tramp O’Loughlin you’re on about - someone who was involved in Pegida which was set up in Germany by groups that included neo-Nazis. I for one am delighted he got thumped anyway, fully deserved.

The Fine Gael of 2009 would now be considered far right.

Howard Beale

FTA69 wrote: »

There is a far right in Ireland consisting of the National Party, the Irish Freedom Party, Síol na hÉireann and the likes of that little tramp O’Loughlin you’re on about - someone who was involved in Pegida which was set up in Germany by groups that included neo-Nazis. I for one am delighted he got thumped anyway, fully deserved.

See that's the kind of brainless devoid of all logic talk I mean. You refer to a mild mannered primary school teacher (Peter O Loughlin) and a wealthy businesswoman Univeristy lecturer (Dolores Cahill) as far right. No they are not.They aren't even close.

To you anyone who disagrees with you on anything is 'far right' It's snowflake nonsense. Don't pop my bubble thing, God forbid you might hear an opinion that disagrees with your echo chamber.

Far right is neo fascism and neo nazism. Neither of which exist in Ireland in any way shape or form at all to say it does is simply lying.

FTA69

Howard Beale wrote: »

See that's the kind of brainless devoid of all logic talk I mean. You refer to a mild mannered primary school teacher (Peter O Loughlin) and a wealthy businesswoman Univeristy lecturer (Dolores Cahill) as far right. No they are not.They aren't even close.

To you anyone who disagrees with you on anything is 'far right' It's snowflake nonsense. Don't pop my bubble thing, God forbid you might hear an opinion that disagrees with your echo chamber.

Far right is neo fascism and neo nazism. Neither of which exist in Ireland in any way shape or form at all to say it does is simply lying.

It isn’t a lie at all to say the National Party are far right what with their program of turning Ireland into a theocracy, opposition to democracy and links with continental neo-Nazis. Similarly considering they’ve deployed groups of thugs who recently split a woman’s head open with a plank forgive me if I don’t shed any tears about them getting a few slaps. Likewise S na H’s links with former BNP figures, an organisation that has its roots in neo-Nazism and Holocaust denial.

As for their occupations, who gives a sh*t? Shock horror teachers can also hold far right opinions as well. Pegida from the outset were a project with openly fascist involvement, I couldn’t care less how “mild mannered” O’Loughlin is.

paw patrol

FTA69 wrote: »

I’ve little to no time for the race industry or NGOs mate. Equally I’ve no time for far right twats and would be Tommy Robinsons being portrayed as decent folk with a few innocuous concerns.

FTA69 wrote: »

There is a far right in Ireland consisting of the National Party, the Irish Freedom Party, Síol na hÉireann and the likes of that little tramp O’Loughlin you’re on about - someone who was involved in Pegida which was set up in Germany by groups that included neo-Nazis. I for one am delighted he got thumped anyway, fully deserved.

interesting , would you support the thumping of other racists like Ebun Joseph?
or just the irish ones?:pac:

Howard Beale

Count Basie wrote: »

Really? You're glad a man got assaulted because you disagree with his politics?

Why are left wing people so mean spirited and unpleasant?

He's hated as he is white, Irish and educated 3 things these people are conditioned to despise

His opinions matter not as they never listen to him anyway. They openly admit they won't listen to him. Shame as he is a very smart erudite cookie.

suicide_circus

More "Hate" and more "the rise of the far right" = more funding for the racism industry.

paw patrol

Count Basie wrote: »

Really? You're glad a man got assaulted because you disagree with his politics?

Why are left wing people so mean spirited and unpleasant?

but he objects to a far left agitator being assaulted
the hypocrisy is mind boggling

megaten

Are you really expecting people to read all that. Whats your point.

Feisar

Count Basie wrote: »

It's another symptom of the mental illness of the west. Your own government funds groups who hate you.

Maybe it's a simplistic view but the above needs to be discussed, not Michael D and his notions of British colonial amnesia. Champagne socialist that he is.

Howard Beale

megaten wrote: »

Are you really expecting people to read all that. Whats your point.

Never stop ceasing to amaze people people comment things like I'm not reading all that!

Erm you do realize you don't have to comment on something you have no interest in right?

It's not obligatory to comment on EVERYTHING

Arthur Daley

landofthetree wrote: »

The Fine Gael of 2009 would now be considered far right.

And they walked the General election this month 10 years ago.:eek:

megaten

Howard Beale wrote: »

Never stop ceasing to amaze people people comment things like I'm not reading all that!

Erm you do realize you don't have to comment on something you have no interest in right?

It's not obligatory to comment on EVERYTHING

You shouldn't be amazed. You phrased your title like a question and then go off and write an essay.

thegetawaycar

I doubt there is even a proper list compiled of all the NGO's and how many work for them.

It's definitely a money saver that could happen quite easily, combine a lot of these and make them a lot more difficult to set up. By crying racism all the time and bringing more and more things into the racism bracket they continue raking in large sums of money. Why would they stop when this literally puts food on the table.

On the anti-irish rhetoric, this happens because it's encouraged by those that are obsessed with being seen as pro immigration and anti racist. It's become a case of you are racist unless you hate yourself. Any questioning of a black persons comments and you are automatically labelled racist.

Of course with all the rhetoric it turns some people against them, especially those who feel like they have it worse than asylum seekers and so real racism grows and the cycle continues.

Look at MASI, they cry racism all the time yet asylum seekers (who they are supposed to represent) are all different races. They act like they only represent the black community which is a disgrace.

Ebun Joseph should be told in no uncertain terms her anti irish/anti white rhetoric is not going to be tolerated and if she insists on it she should be fined/imprisoned. If a white Irish person turned her rhetoric around and repeated it they would be arrested and rightfully so. All she is doing is causing more division while filling her pockets (she does a lot of talks for the large multi nationals on racism).

Acosta

francois wrote: »

Oh god here we go....again

What's after setting them off today I wonder? Did Denise Chaila win an award?

mcmoustache

Acosta wrote: »

What's after setting them off today I wonder? Did Denise Chaila win an award?

I think some actress was dropped by Disney for tweets that would make Alex Jones blush. Could be something else though.

Esho

Acosta wrote: »

What's after setting them off today I wonder? Did Denise Chaila win an award?

Setting who off?
I like her well known song

Howard Beale

FTA69 wrote: »

It isn’t a lie at all to say the National Party are far right what with their program of turning Ireland into a theocracy, opposition to democracy and links with continental neo-Nazis. Similarly considering they’ve deployed groups of thugs who recently split a woman’s head open with a plank forgive me if I don’t shed any tears about them getting a few slaps. Likewise S na H’s links with former BNP figures, an organisation that has its roots in neo-Nazism and Holocaust denial.

As for their occupations, who gives a sh*t? Shock horror teachers can also hold far right opinions as well. Pegida from the outset were a project with openly fascist involvement, I couldn’t care less how “mild mannered” O’Loughlin is.

For someone who likes to use incidents to back up your points it's a shame all the facts of them are wrong.

When the transgenger lady got hit at the Dail had nothing to do with the National Party in fact was that simpleton Dolores Webster on the mike who has NOTHING to do with National party. Nothing. Ergo National Party didn't attack her in fact they weren't even there!

Nazi party links? Such as Justin attending a private speech in Germany some 20 something years ago? Well in that case do you say Roderic O Gorman has paedophile links considering he was photographed with Peter Tatchell and that was only 3 years ago so long as we are talking shelf life and consistency here. So do you go around speaking or Roderic's paedophile links?

Also the transgender activist her/his head injury was superficial. The one Peter O Loughlin got was not. Far more serious.

One one hand you want people to be attacked as you may disagree with them and on the other hand you condemn others for attacking others you do agree with.

Talk about being a double standard confused hypocrite!;)

FTA69

Howard Beale wrote: »

For someone who likes to use incidents to back up your points it's a shame all the facts of them are wrong.

When the transgenger lady got hit at the Dail had nothing to do with the National Party in fact was that simpleton Dolores Webster on the mike who has NOTHING to do with National party. Nothing. Ergo National Party didn't attack her in fact they weren't even there!

Nazi party links? Such as Justin attending a private speech in Germany some 20 something years ago? Well in that case do you say Roderic O Gorman has paedophile links considering he was photographed with Peter Tatchell and that was only 3 years ago so long as we are talking shelf life and consistency here. So do you go around speaking or Roderic's paedophile links?

Also the transgender activist her/his head injury was superficial. The one Peter O Loughlin got was not. Far more serious.

One one hand you want people to be attacked as you may disagree with them and on the other hand you condemn others for attacking others you do agree with.

Talk about being a double standard confused hypocrite!;)

Oh I thought you’d no idea who Justin Barrett was and never heard of him before? Absolute spoofer.

Howard Beale

FTA69 wrote: »

Oh I thought you’d no idea who Justin Barrett was and never heard of him before? Absolute spoofer.

I was being ironic. Jeez thought that would have been obvious.

Irony:

noun
the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.


Now can you explain why all your 'facts' are all wrong and why you think it's OK to attack people you disagree with?
Which is incredibly bigoted. A bigot labeling others bigots? Never!
Pot kettle and black eh!

FTA69

FTA69 wrote: »

Oh I thought you’d no idea who Justin Barrett was and never heard of him before? Absolute spoofer.

The np lads aren't the sharpest tools in the box.

Esho

What are these NGOs ? Do you have any names of them?
I know of MASI alright.

Had to Google Justin Barrett, Jesus wept.

timmyntc

FTA69 wrote: »

Oh I thought you’d no idea who Justin Barrett was and never heard of him before? Absolute spoofer.

Deflect deflect deflect

Richard Hillman

Esho wrote: »

What are these NGOs ? Do you have any names of them?
I know of MASI alright.

Immigrant council of Ireland
INAR and their 200 million offshoots for every parish in the country

thegetawaycar

Esho wrote: »

What are these NGOs ? Do you have any names of them?
I know of MASI alright.

A few listed here to start
https://www.flac.ie/publications/links/independentnongovernmentalorganisationsireland/

Howard Beale

Esho wrote: »

What are these NGOs ? Do you have any names of them?
I know of MASI alright.

Irish network against racism
United against racism
MASI
European network against racism
NASC
lecheile


etc etc etc. 10 a penny they are.

Howard Beale

Don't know where the full video is but at a rally for abortion few year ago this woman introduced as being from the 'Irish network against racism' spews nothing but bile and racism against the Irish. We are 'racist' we are a 'racist' country and if the pure hatred and racism against the Irish wasn't enough she throws in a good bit of misandry to boot hating on all men screaming at them to 'know their place' etc.

We must be the only country in the World to invite in the absolute racist dregs of the World only for them to come here and spew bile against us on the main street in our capital. What's worse is these racist cretins are part of ahem 'anti racist' organisations. Gas. Never let it be said these people don't have a sense of irony. :rolleyes:

Incredible.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/video-men-should-know-their-place-in-abortion-debate-rally-told-30526016.html

TomTomTim

What is it with progressive posters and a lack of impulse control? Quality of arguments is one thing, how you approach arguments in another. I'd say at least half of the posters who argue for progressive values are highly emotional in their approach. Written word is one of the easiest ways to not appear emotional, yet they can't manage it. When reading their words I can honestly visualize them behind a phone, a laptop, full of rage and anger. It seriously can't be good for their mental well being.

keano_afc

When Covid is over and we're counting the financial cost, the government simply have to look at the NGO sector for the purpose of costcutting.

There are some absolute clown shows out there costing the taxpayer millions, many of which are doing the same "job" as other NGOs also creaming money out of our pockets.

https://gript.ie/a-closer-look-at-ngos-who-is-spending-your-taxes-and-what-are-they-achieving/

Some of the figures here are eye-watering.

Howard Beale

What about this chap. Part of the BLM mob and united against Racism ie hate the Irish.

Here he is saying that African folk should have land, power, politicians basically everything and not one mention of actually working for it. Notice that. Not one utterance of actually WORKING for any of it!
Then he goes onto say Irish people (you and me) are 'very very complicit' in slavery. News to me and also racism as it's racist and slanderous to the Irish such lies and falsehoods.

His anti Irish bile as usual during a weekday (not working) and as usual cheered on. Disdain, hatred and racism against the Irish cheered on the streets of Ireland. Strange days.

humberklog

The American journalist P.J O'Rourke years ago described communist USSR in the 80's as a country proud to have the biggest and strongest drill in the world. The biggest and best drill in the world's function was to drive down deeper towards the Earth's core to extract more metal in order to make the next biggest and strongest drill ever made and to continue that process.

There's something circular in how a lot of NGOs function that remind me of PJO'R's anecdote. The organisations are there to address problematic societal situations that fall within their brief which is right and proper. But when do they turn "the drill" towards something more tangible and meaningful? Something to build upon rather than continually driving down into victimhood and needing someone or something to blame.

My personal opinion is that a lot of NGOs aren't geared towards reaching a point where they can re-tool and start operating in a positive direction.
Their drill only goes one direction with one main function- to make their drill bigger.

fantaiscool

FTA69 wrote: »

Some amount of Justin Barrett muppets on this forum these days.

Plenty of very odd posts indeed.

Whatever about Justin Barrett, et al. There is certainly an NGO gravy train sloshing around this country.

Howard Beale

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Whatever about Justin Barrett, et al. There is certainly an NGO gravy train sloshing around this country.

None of them can debate the topic at hand so deflect deflect deflect.

They think its normal that billions and billions go to NGO's to debase the Irish and call them racist based on erm Nothing!

Meanwhile an angry "anti racist" young mob scream white bastards at terrified people in a barricaded shop in Blanchardstown and not a peep from them. In fact thats championed!

Its very telling how these people think any height of abuse aimed at Irish people is fine. It shows their utter utter contempt for the average Irish Joe.

To these "anti racist" NGO's the Irish are so far down the pecking order such contempt that any level of Abuse or racism aimed at them is not only accepted but encouraged as seen by the bile filled speakers they often have.

fantaiscool

francois wrote: »

Oh god here we go....again

The good thing about this forum is you can just look at who thanks posts before even bothering to read them. Saves plenty of time

doublejobbing 2

There is a school of thought in this country that you should come from abroad and be granted priority housing allocation, and if you decide the working life is not for you, you should be remunerated comfortably regardless.

fantaiscool

DubInMeath wrote: »

The np lads aren't the sharpest tools in the box.

lol you have to give them credit for the effort they put in to all this.

fantaiscool

fantaiscool wrote: »

lol you have to give them credit for the effort they put in to all this.

Nothing else in their lives