Top Young Fullbacks in Ireland

bayern

23 and under:

1. Jordan Larmour(23/Leinster)
2. Ethan McIlroy(20/Ulster)
3. Mike Lowry(22/Ulster)
4. Jake Flannery(21/Munster)
5. Oran McNulty(20/Connacht)

Not the strongest position throughout the provinces, it will be interesting to see who gets the nod there for Ireland u20 this summer.

Paul Smeenus

No Mike Lowry? Really?

arsebiscuits1

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

No Mike Lowry? Really?

That one is a suprise to me also. Easily no 2 on this list

Paul Smeenus

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

That one is a suprise to me also. Easily no 2 on this list

Jordan Larmour top of both wing and FB lists - Lowry not anywhere on FB or outhalf list.

Bloody Bayern.

WE SEE WHAT YOU'RE UP TO.

bayern

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

No Mike Lowry? Really?

completely forgot about him.

Paul Smeenus

I really would swap Lowry and Mcilroy there, but opinions are like ****holes etc etc

bayern

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

I really would swap Lowry and Mcilroy there, but opinions are like ****holes etc etc

I think McIlroy is a potential international at 15, dunno about Lowry.

redmca2

Jimmy O'Brien ???

bayern

redmca2 wrote: »

Jimmy O'Brien ???

He and Keenan are both 24.

alanb92

McNulty really impressed me for last year's u20's. He was helped by playing behind a huge pack which provided the backs with great ball, but his skillset really impressed me nevertheless. Agreed re McIlroy - looks like he has all the tools to be a top fullback in time too.

AbusesToilets

Carberry should be on this list

sydthebeat

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Carberry should be on this list

23 and under?

Joey is 25

Lucas44

Max O’reilly surely has to be on this? Jamie Osborne too but may be a tad early to throw him in

bayern

Lucas44 wrote: »

Max O’reilly surely has to be on this? Jamie Osborne too but may be a tad early to throw him in

does he? wasn't 1st choice for his irish u20 side and hardly been excellent for leinster this season. Very raw.

Osborne not considered, seems to be more focused on centre these days.

Lucas44

bayern wrote: »

does he? wasn't 1st choice for his irish u20 side and hardly been excellent for leinster this season. Very raw.

Osborne not considered, seems to be more focused on centre these days.

Most u21 players tend to be raw. He’s made appearances for leinster at 15 while flannery & mcnulty are playing elsewhere in A games. Would of backed him to start if there was a jwc last year, struggled with injuries before six nations

bayern

he has made appearances for Leinster due to a rash of injuries, not because he is an outstanding talent who was demanding selection based on his performances for Leinster A.

Lucas44

bayern wrote: »

he has made appearances for Leinster due to a rash of injuries, not because he is an outstanding talent who was demanding selection based on his performances for Leinster A.[

can’t have flannery on this list when he’s playing 12/ second choice 10 for Munster A meanwhile the other is playing for leinster in the pro14 was my point.. would be like putting Cormac foley down as a centre coming through cause he played there underage

bayern

You can and I did, if Flannery was on leinsters books he'd be playing 15 ahead of O'Reilly. Simple.

realhorrorshow

I've always thought O'Reilly would end up in the Sevens programme.

Lucas44

bayern wrote: »

You can and I did, if Flannery was on leinsters books he'd be playing 15 ahead of O'Reilly. Simple.

Right you hold onto your hopes that munsters 5th choice 10 will be a top fullback in a few years and il take the actual fullback that has made his debut for leinster.

Lucas44

realhorrorshow wrote: »

I've always thought O'Reilly would end up in the Sevens programme.

He might well spend a stint of time in there similarly to Shane Daly, Keenan and Jimmy O’Brien as his skills translate to the game well

Lucas44

Lucas44 wrote: »

Right you hold onto your hopes that munsters 5th choice 10 will be a top fullback in a few years and il take the actual fullback that has made his debut for leinster.

Saying one is better than the other is fine but it's a bit disingenuous to dismiss flannery as a 5th choice 10 when he's been a fullback first and foremost and played fullback for the irish 20s the year before rielly he only started playing 10 after harry byrne and Ben healy got hurt

bayern

Rocco Scruffy Rambler wrote: »

Saying one is better than the other is fine but it's a bit disingenuous to dismiss flannery as a 5th choice 10 when he's been a fullback first and foremost and played fullback for the irish 20s the year before rielly he only started playing 10 after harry byrne and Ben healy got hurt

O'Reilly also didn't make irish u20 squad when competing with Flannery for a spot in 2019.

realhorrorshow

bayern wrote: »

O'Reilly also didn't make irish u20 squad when competing with Flannery for a spot in 2019.

O'Reilly was u19 in 2019.

bayern

realhorrorshow wrote: »

O'Reilly was u19 in 2019.

He was out of school as a u19... he was in wider u20 training group but failed to make u20 squad.

bayern

bayern wrote: »

He was out of school as a u19... he was in wider u20 training group but failed to make u20 squad.

To be fair a year makes a huge difference at that stage

bayern

Rocco Scruffy Rambler wrote: »

To be fair a year makes a huge difference at that stage

Maybe.. the top prospects usually play u20 a year young if they are out of school though.

O'Reilly is a good prospect but he isn't an elite one for me.

TRC10

bayern wrote: »

Maybe.. the top prospects usually play u20 a year young if they are out of school though.

O'Reilly is a good prospect but he isn't an elite one for me.

It depends, some players have 2 years of 20s and some players only have 1 year.

bayern

TRC10 wrote: »

It depends, some players have 2 years of 20s and some players only have 1 year.

Yes and oreilly had 2 years but didn't make the squad the 1st year as a u19 when he was competing with Flannery, Wren etc.

Lucas44

Rocco Scruffy Rambler wrote: »

Saying one is better than the other is fine but it's a bit disingenuous to dismiss flannery as a 5th choice 10 when he's been a fullback first and foremost and played fullback for the irish 20s the year before rielly he only started playing 10 after harry byrne and Ben healy got hurt

Flannery played 10 for rockwell & Munster in every age grade, largely was second fiddle to Ben Healy at 10 and actually never played 15 until Irish 20s... if he’s second choice 10 for Munster a behind Crowley that makes him 5th choice.. jj carberry healy Crowley then him

Lucas44

bayern wrote: »

Maybe.. the top prospects usually play u20 a year young if they are out of school though.

O'Reilly is a good prospect but he isn't an elite one for me.

Max started 15 vs the junior all blacks as an u19, is that elite enough for you?

Lucas44

bayern wrote: »

Yes and oreilly had 2 years but didn't make the squad the 1st year as a u19 when he was competing with Flannery, Wren etc.

https://www.irishrugby.ie/2019/06/21/deeny-and-oreilly-start-as-ireland-u-20-team-shows-seven-changes/

Flannery at 10, wren on the bench... look at who’s at 15

bayern

Lucas44 wrote: »

Max started 15 vs the junior all blacks as an u19, is that elite enough for you?

a last minute jwc injury callup? Meh, he was still behind Flannery.. look he is a good prospect but he isn't elite in my book.

certainly hasn't looked it this season for Leinster either.

TRC10

bayern wrote: »

a last minute jwc injury callup? Meh, he was still behind Flannery.. look he is a good prospect but he isn't elite in my book.

certainly hasn't looked it this season for Leinster either.

Looked shaky on debut v Connacht but he was tearing it up for the A team at 13 and scored a class try away to the Scarlets. How many senior starts does Flannery have?

Lucas44

bayern wrote: »

a last minute jwc injury callup? Meh, he was still behind Flannery.. look he is a good prospect but he isn't elite in my book.

certainly hasn't looked it this season for Leinster either.

Still played u20 as an u19 ahead of mcnulty didnt he? Not saying he’s an elite future international but he’s a hell of a lot better prospect at 15 than flannery..

To say a 19/20 year old hasn’t looked elite for leinster is a bit pathetic, flannery hasn’t exactly looked ‘elite’ at 12 or 10 for Munster A

bayern

Lucas44 wrote: »

Still played u20 as an u19 ahead of mcnulty didnt he? Not saying he’s an elite future international but he’s a hell of a lot better prospect at 15 than flannery..

To say a 19/20 year old hasn’t looked elite for leinster is a bit pathetic, flannery hasn’t exactly looked ‘elite’ at 12 or 10 for Munster A

Max O'Reilly is 20/21.

You are really taking this ranking personally, relax.

bayern

TRC10 wrote: »

Looked shaky on debut v Connacht but he was tearing it up for the A team at 13 and scored a class try away to the Scarlets. How many senior starts does Flannery have?

how many times do I have to tell you that O'Reilly only has his senior starts due to a rash of injuries.

He hasn't been tearing it up for Leinster A either, that side has struggled, no one has been tearing it up for them.

He scored a good try against Scarlets but outside of that he has looked out of place playing senior rugby, which is hardly surprising as he was not viewed to be an elite underage prospect and wasn't expected to play senior rugby his first season after u20 rugby and wouldn't have bar an injury crisis.

Hopefully he is super impressive tonight against the Dragons.

Lucas44

bayern wrote: »

Max O'Reilly is 20/21.

You are really taking this ranking personally, relax.

Not taking it personally at all, just pointing out flannery will not be at 15 for Munster anytime soon. It would be like listing Cormac foley as a top 5 centre coming through cause he played there for Irish 20s and gerards. Munster obviously see him as a 10/12 judging by their A squads recently.. do I think Oreilly is a better prospect, no probably not but better option at 15, absolutely