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Deane Motors Event - Get Out and Drive

  • 10-02-2021 10:41am
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    Registered Users Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭ Tzardine


    Boards' favorite classic car dealer, Deane Motors, has announced a driving event in September. It takes place over a long weekend in September and involves a spin from their showroom to Galway (via Mayo), with a hotel stay on two nights.

    https://deanemotors.ie/events/

    The cost is €1,600. They are getting a lot of flak on Facebook about it. People giving out about the price.

    While I think that it is not cheap, I dont think that its badly priced for driving experiences like this. I also think it would be a quality event, and the price would not attract the yobbos that sometimes go to these things in their badly modified cars. (Altezza drivers I am looking at you)

    What do you think?

    Full disclosure - I did buy a car from Deane Motors , but have no involvement with them or this event.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,576 ✭✭✭ Dr Turk Turkelton


    When I initially saw it I thought it was a great idea but it seems like it's just a profit making enterprise for the garage.
    Obviously it's a free market and no problem with that but before the details were released it read as if it was an altruistic move to bring car lovers together so he should have made it clear that it was a for profit event.
    I'd imagine 1k at most would cover someone's expenses so a nice profit in it.
    I'm not sure but is the Cannonball classic event not similarly priced? (The one for clarify cars not the main event).
    Anything over 50 quid would have ruled out the Altezza drivers so I can't see that being the excuse.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭ easygoing39


    Do you get a fuel voucher worth 1,400 Euro included??? Or is there a sister hotel to the Burj Al Arab in Galway now??


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭ Tzardine


    For comparison, the Cannonball Classic in August is €1550.

    Like the Deane Motors one it includes

    Car and two persons
    2 nights hotel accommodation
    Breakfast/Lunch/Dinner for 3 days
    Goody bag etc.

    So it looks like he has priced it competitively.

    In fairness to him, he is passionate about the motors, and he will likely put on a top class event.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,535 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Dades


    Tzardine wrote: »
    Like the Deane Motors one it includes

    Car and two persons.
    I read this to include Deane providing you with a motor as well! Still, if you're into hanging with car types for two days, this sounds like well run gig.

    No mention of classics as a requirement so although there won't be many Altezza drivers there might be a bunch of modern Audi/Beemer drivers along for the trip.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,690 ✭✭✭ Neilw


    As someone who was involved in organising several similar drives which cost a fraction of their €1600, it really shows the difference between genuine enthusiasts and a company out to make profit.

    We had similar numbers too, merchandise, lunch stops, evening meal and overnight hotels.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭ JabbaTheHut


    Neilw wrote: »
    As someone who was involved in organising several similar drives which cost a fraction of their €1600, it really shows the difference between genuine enthusiasts and a company out to make profit.

    We had similar numbers too, merchandise, lunch stops, evening meal and overnight hotels.

    I saw someone on the Facebook page claiming that they organised events and claimed that €1600 was not expensive. It is.
    Anything over 50 quid would have ruled out the Altezza drivers so I can't see that being the excuse.

    I also saw this as a reason to excuse the price.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭ hi5


    I think that's it....If you cant afford it we don't want you!


  • Registered Users Posts: 259 ✭✭ E36Ross


    They obviously don't want the normal classic car enthusiast, Only the half up there own hole snobby types. ;):D


    First stay is Hotel Westport on Sep 3rd, A 'premier' room with B&B is €160 currently.
    Second stay is the G Hotel in a 'Deluxe Twin' is €269 currently (No breakfest!)

    Dunno about ye but don't think 2 people would eat €1200 odd worth of food for 3 days.


    Someone should set up a similar route with budget B&Bs and use the same route, Should be well doable for half the cost.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,011 Maci Straight Tinsel


    E36Ross wrote: »
    Someone should set up a similar route with budget B&Bs and use the same route, Should be well doable for half the cost.

    You aren't the first to suggest this :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭ Tzardine


    E36Ross wrote: »


    Someone should set up a similar route with budget B&Bs and use the same route, Should be well doable for half the cost.

    Sure you could sleep in a tent and save even more money.

    To be fair, I think you and others are missing the point.

    It's not a budget event. Its not targeted as a budget event. It's intended to be 'high end'. As I understand it, its more than just following a few cars to Galway. There are events and gala dinners and expensive hotels.

    And no I am not going. I can't afford it :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 259 ✭✭ E36Ross


    Tzardine wrote: »
    Sure you could sleep in a tent and save even more money.

    To be fair, I think you and others are missing the point.

    It's not a budget event. Its not targeted as a budget event. It's intended to be 'high end'. As I understand it, its more than just following a few cars to Galway. There are events and gala dinners and expensive hotels.

    And no I am not going. I can't afford it :D

    I literally just posted the prices of the hotels...... Its a money making exercise by a business, nothing to do with enthusiasts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭ Tzardine


    E36Ross wrote: »
    I literally just posted the prices of the hotels...... Its a money making exercise by a business, nothing to do with enthusiasts.

    Whats wrong with a business making money?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,690 ✭✭✭ Neilw


    Tzardine wrote: »
    Whats wrong with a business making money?

    Nothing whatsoever, but masquerading as classic enthusiasts when it’s a money making exercise is a bit rich.

    By all means charge €1600 to get the clientele you want but do some good and give the profit to charity.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭ Tzardine


    Neilw wrote: »

    By all means charge €1600 to get the clientele you want but do some good and give the profit to charity.

    Absolute nonsense. Its not a charity run. Its a for profit event to put money in the pocket of Deane Motors. It has never been advertised as benefiting anybody but them.

    And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

    If people are happy to pay the cost of it, then good luck to them.

    Dont get me wrong, I have a laugh at some of their prices as much as the next guy, but it seems that a lot of people just hate to see them do well at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,011 Maci Straight Tinsel


    Tzardine wrote: »
    Absolute nonsense. Its not a charity run. Its a for profit event to put money in the pocket of Deane Motors. It has never been advertised as benefiting anybody but them.

    And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

    If people are happy to pay the cost of it, then good luck to them.

    Dont get me wrong, I have a laugh at some of their prices as much as the next guy, but it seems that a lot of people just hate to see them do well at all.

    Begrudgery, the Irish are world leaders in it :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,690 ✭✭✭ Neilw


    Tzardine wrote: »
    Absolute nonsense. Its not a charity run. Its a for profit event to put money in the pocket of Deane Motors. It has never been advertised as benefiting anybody but them.

    And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

    If people are happy to pay the cost of it, then good luck to them.

    Dont get me wrong, I have a laugh at some of their prices as much as the next guy, but it seems that a lot of people just hate to see them do well at all.

    They can’t call themselves classic car enthusiasts if they put nothing back into the classic community. Everything they do is geared to extract the maximum amount of money from a customer, I know they are a business but don’t come across as enthusiasts when money is the only motivation.

    I don’t begrudge them making money, my gripe is how they go about it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 255 ✭✭ conor-w


    I would guess that the pricing is more to do with exclusivity, and in turn the type of cars they want to be there, than pure profit making. I'm sure they will make a video of the trip, and have a photographer taking pics all along the way, they want expensive/rare cars there. It is essentially a marketing media collection exercise, to be used to try and take up a position as one of the top classic/rare car dealer in the country.

    Not that there is anything wrong with that. It is basically sold out, so it seems to have worked anyway. I'm sure it will be great, but out of my price range(I don't think I would go anyway, I don't think it's great value for money given the hotels).


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 The bird man


    Neilw wrote: »
    They can’t call themselves classic car enthusiasts if they put nothing back into the classic community. Everything they do is geared to extract the maximum amount of money from a customer, I know they are a business but don’t come across as enthusiasts when money is the only motivation.

    I don’t begrudge them making money, my gripe is how they go about it.


    How can they not call themselves classic car enthusiasts???
    How would you suggest they give back to the classic car community?
    Lastly... just wondering, can you give an example on how they go about it?

    I’m genuinely interested to know?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 58,916 CMod ✭✭✭✭ unkel


    Honestly, I don't see any issue here

    The company has organised a private event. Accommodation and food is included, which is not cheap, good quality establishments in Ireland have become rather expensive since last summer, for obvious reasons of supply & demand. It would also take plenty of time to organise all this, deal with customers and venues, etc. Their time is not free and has to be paid for. Taken that into account, it doesn't look overly pricey to me. Not suprised at all it is fully booked

    Wishing all who are taking part & the organisers a great event, hopefully we will see some pictures here :)

    "Wind is Ireland's oil" - An Taoiseach, 25/05/2022



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,535 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Dades


    Neilw wrote: »
    I don’t begrudge them making money, my gripe is how they go about it.
    Also still entirely unsure as to what the problem is here.

    There's no mention of charity and as far as I can see this event is optional? :P


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,477 ✭✭✭✭ For Forks Sake


    Neilw wrote: »
    They can’t call themselves classic car enthusiasts if they put nothing back into the classic community. Everything they do is geared to extract the maximum amount of money from a customer, I know they are a business but don’t come across as enthusiasts when money is the only motivation.

    I don’t begrudge them making money, my gripe is how they go about it.

    Are they going around forcing people to sign up at gunpoint?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,940 ✭✭✭ KevRossi


    Agreed it's their business. It's a meet and greet and a bit of a hobnob between people. There's nothing hidden there. They say where they are staying, where they are eating, and any extras they are offering. You can work it out with a few minutes on Google what it costs against what you pay and if it's worth it to yourself.

    No mention of a charity as there's no charity involved and they're not obliged to donate to charity either.

    Much the same as any other organised tour, the organisers make a profit, which is their good right to do so. After all it's not the USSR under Brezhnev where we live.


  • Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭ brucky


    Neilw wrote: »
    They can’t call themselves classic car enthusiasts if they put nothing back into the classic community. Everything they do is geared to extract the maximum amount of money from a customer, I know they are a business but don’t come across as enthusiasts when money is the only motivation.

    I don’t begrudge them making money, my gripe is how they go about it.

    “How they go about it” Probably rates as one one the most nonsensical statements I’ve ever heard. If someone wishes to pay to go on a higher end tour it’s up to them. Let’s just be clear and deal in facts. Dean Motors sold over 150 classic cars in Ireland last year. A significant amount of these were imported. It may come as a shock to you that Dean Motors sold them at a profit as they are operating something called a business. That’s 150 classics that are new to Irish roads driving around in this country as a direct result. That almost equates to a small car show in itself. In addition most of those cars are in very good condition, not junk, stuff that people will get real pleasure from seeing drive around, and at events. When most garages don’t want to know or haven’t the skills to fix classics Dean Motors have been fixing classic cars and keeping them on the road long before your ba**s dropped, so less of the daft comments. They keep both my classic cars on the road at a very reasonable cost for which I am very thankful. Have you ever purchased a car from them?? (a mate of mine told me,,, doesn’t count) have you ever had a classic repaired by them? Have you had any direct experience of them Mr Keyboard Warrior?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭ easygoing39


    Think someone got out of bed the wrong side this morning.


  • Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭ brucky


    Think someone got out of bed the wrong side this morning.

    Nice try, maybe I need to change my tag to not-so easygoing. Doesn’t alter the facts though.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 58,916 CMod ✭✭✭✭ unkel


    Think someone got out of bed the wrong side this morning.

    Sounds to me like a satisfied customer who won't stand for some of the comments made about that company

    I've no skin in the game here, I've never dealt with Deane Motors, in fact I've often commented that the prices of their cars were juicy. But I can't say I've seen them do anything wrong here or indeed anything against the spirit or the community of classic cars in Ireland.

    "Wind is Ireland's oil" - An Taoiseach, 25/05/2022



  • Registered Users Posts: 255 ✭✭ conor-w


    I've bought a car from them, and have nothing but good things to say about everyone I dealt with. Hard to get hold of most of the time, as all independent dealers seem to be(juggling god knows how many schemes at once I'm sure), but really nice guys, willing to both work on a deal and help to get rid of your car if a trade in is what you want, and your car doesn't suit them.

    I was someone that thought their prices were very out there before I bought from them, usually laughing at their ads when they came up, but I would happily only buy cars from them in the future, the prices you see are negotiable, and I ended up with a better deal than I would have gotten from anyone else by a fair margin, when trading my car in. They were also happy to bring the car I was interested in to a specialist for a PPI, fixed everything highlighted, and are currently standing by an issue I'm having, a couple of months after purchase.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭ Tzardine


    conor-w wrote: »
    I've bought a car from them, and have nothing but good things to say about everyone I dealt with. Hard to get hold of most of the time, as all independent dealers seem to be(juggling god knows how many schemes at once I'm sure), but really nice guys, willing to both work on a deal and help to get rid of your car if a trade in is what you want, and your car doesn't suit them.

    I was someone that thought their prices were very out there before I bought from them, usually laughing at their ads when they came up, but I would happily only buy cars from them in the future, the prices you see are negotiable, and I ended up with a better deal than I would have gotten from anyone else by a fair margin, when trading my car in. They were also happy to bring the car I was interested in to a specialist for a PPI, fixed everything highlighted, and are currently standing by an issue I'm having, a couple of months after purchase.

    Having also bought something from them I concur.

    What did you get from them? (I got a little Fiesta 2 years back)


  • Registered Users Posts: 255 ✭✭ conor-w


    Tzardine wrote: »
    Having also bought something from them I concur.

    What did you get from them? (I got a little Fiesta 2 years back)

    A 997 Carrera S! Delighted with it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,156 ✭✭✭ w124man


    Neilw wrote: »
    They can’t call themselves classic car enthusiasts if they put nothing back into the classic community.

    Hahahahaha what nonsence!
    Neilw wrote: »
    Everything they do is geared to extract the maximum amount of money from a customer

    Thats called making a profit
    Neilw wrote: »
    I don’t begrudge them making money, my gripe is how they go about it.

    Yes you do and no it isnt!


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