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Buying a Property to Rent Out Before Moving Abroad

  • 04-02-2021 2:50pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭


    Hello there.

    I’m looking for a advice on buying a house to let, if any Landlords and property owners have any advice I’d appreciate it.

    I’m due my inheritance & I would like to buy a house in Dublin for a budget of €235,000, I’m aware of the market at the current moment.I would like to buy for cash now to let as I plan on living abroad. I have secured an agent ;( a friend ) to Look after a property when I do buy to let .
    I’m eager to buy now as I rent at present & I don’t want to eat into my budget.

    I’ve a couple of questions..

    1 .would it be better to wait ? Will house prices come down in the near future ?
    ( it doesn’t look like it ) as I said Im paying rent at the moment so I’m eager to buy asap

    2,with taxes costs ect is it worth buying now to let out a house ? ..rents are high so i could make a profit. But I also hear landlords are leaving the market ? I’m wondering Why ?

    3.I see Rents in county’s close to Dublin are the same as Dublin would I be better renting outside Dublin ? ...I say this because there is so little available in my budget in Dublin.

    4 .Does anybody live aboard & let their property? Wondering how that works with taxes costs Il will be calling revenue for the relevant information .

    Any help would be appreciated..

    Thanks in advance...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    I can't see the price of houses dropping anytime soon, they will keep increasing at about at least 3-4% I reckon.

    Do your research and you will find a house within your budget that will return decent rental income, don't limit yourself to Dublin or the immediate area either.

    Buy right and you can't really go wrong, steady income and an asset that will more than likely keep increasing in value.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Wouldn't recommend it to my worst enemy, especially in an area where you can buy at that price range.

    Look at REITs and investing the money across a portfolio. I'm laughing at the post above that says you'll have a steady income. Not the experience of most landlords!!

    Damages, unpaid rent, tenants next to impossible to evict... Getting out was the best thing we did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭good vibes


    Thanks for the reply..I’m also hearing about the nightmares of bad tenants & damages ect...Ive been receiving lots of different advice..ie : if I let short term I can remove bad tenants easley enough as I don’t have to give a lease.

    ..it’s hard to know ..I want to to do the Right thing by investing my inheritance in a property to let but at the same time who would need all that trouble & stress & expense ?

    it’s a very tough decision..I’m beginning to think maybe owner occupier might be the best bet .

    as I’ve said I’ve gotten advice to ..buy to let ...don’t buy ..wait & buy in the future..
    become an owner occupier ....it’s a very tough decision..

    I’m beginning to think that buying & owner occupier might be the best bet...


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    With your letting model, you would be limiting yourself to letting your property for max 6 months, giving your tenants notice to terminate and leave before Part 4 rights kick in. And, hoping that they don’t overhold. Risky.

    There is a reason why experienced LLs were leaving in large numbers even though rents were at an all time high, that should give you cause for thought.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭good vibes


    H
    Dav010 wrote: »
    With your letting model, you would be limiting yourself to letting your property for max 6 months, giving your tenants notice to terminate and leave before Part 4 rights kick in. And, hoping that they don’t overhold. Risky.

    There is a reason why experienced LLs were leaving in large numbers even though rents were at an all time high, that should give you cause for thought.

    I hear you...I’m aware of the part 4 Tenancy agreement..

    The thing I didn’t understand was why are Landlords and property owners getting out of the market when rents are at an all time high ?

    ..is it just down to the fact that their getting screwed over -losing money because of costs and damages due to bad tenants ? Court costs non payment of rent ? I’d it all down to these factors ?


    As I said in my last post ...looking st the big picture now being owner occupier & receiving 14.000 a year tax free dosnt sound like a bad idea


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    good vibes wrote: »
    H

    I hear you...I’m aware of the part 4 Tenancy agreement..

    The thing I didn’t understand was why are Landlords and property owners getting out of the market when rents are at an all time high ?

    ..is it just down to the fact that their getting screwed over -losing money because of costs and damages due to bad tenants ? Court costs non payment of rent ? I’d it all down to these factors ?


    As I said in my last post ...looking st the big picture now being owner occupier & receiving 14.000 a year tax free dosnt sound like a bad idea

    There are many reasons why LLs may leave, personally, my reasons are (in no particular order)

    • Property prices are pretty high and there is quite a good demand, so a good time to sell.

    • Rent Pressure Zone legislation limits what I can charge for the service I am providing.

    • Tenancy legislation favours tenants and rewards bad tenants by making it extremely difficult and expensive to remove them.

    • I just don’t want the hassle anymore, I really think this sector is better left to large scale “professionals” who have the resources to manage their properties, raise rents like clockwork, and can absorb losses better than small, one property LLs.

    I still have a couple of apartments, but they will be sold when the tenants move out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭good vibes


    Dav010 wrote: »
    There are many reasons why LLs may leave, personally, my reasons are (in no particular order)

    • Property prices are pretty high and there is quite a good demand, so a good time to sell.

    • Rent Pressure Zone legislation limits what I can charge for the service I am providing.

    • Tenancy legislation favours tenants and rewards bad tenants by making it extremely difficult and expensive to remove them.

    • I just don’t want the hassle anymore, I really think this sector is better left to large scale “professionals” who have the resources to manage their properties, raise rents like clockwork, and can absorb losses better than small, one property LLs.

    I still have a couple of apartments, but they will be sold when the tenants move out.

    Great advice.. Thank you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭good vibes


    Hi, Has anybody let out rooms in their house held onto a room and lived abroad ? Just wondering how that would work..

    I know as an owner occupier your allowed rent 2 rooms tax free but you must live in ireland the greater part of the year..
    I did here something about letting one room and in "your family home " & be able to live abroad ? Anyone aware of this ? Wondering if that's any different ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    good vibes wrote: »
    Hi, Has anybody let out rooms in their house held onto a room and lived abroad ? Just wondering how that would work..

    I know as an owner occupier your allowed rent 2 rooms but you must live in ireland the greater part of the year..
    I did here something about letting one room and in "your family home " & be initialed to live abroad ? Anyone aware of this ?

    If you live overseas you pay tax on all income as with any other rental. If you live in the house, you can earn €14k per year tax free as long as all monies collected (rent and bills) does not exceed 13k.

    Attempting to claim rent a room relief while living abroad if fraud and fairly easy to detect given you still have to declare the income to revenue, it's just not taxable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭good vibes


    Caranica wrote: »
    If you live overseas you pay tax on all income as with any other rental. If you live in the house, you can earn €14k per year tax free as long as all monies collected (rent and bills) does not exceed 13k.

    Attempting to claim rent a room relief while living abroad if fraud and fairly easy to detect given you still have to declare the income to revenue, it's just not taxable.

    Well im not "atemping *anything fraudulent..

    I was just inquiring about letting one room..& what the situation was with the tax if i was living abroad.. And is there a different situation for letting one room.. I seen something about that online.. Im just digging for answers.. Il have to get legal advice on that


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭wench


    good vibes wrote: »
    I want to to do the Right thing by investing my inheritance in a property


    What makes you think investing in a property is the "right thing"?
    Have you looked at investing in a stock market fund?
    Or a REIT if you want property exposure.


    Much less risk and hassle to you, and you can always cash out later and buy a property for yourself when you're ready.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Dav010 wrote: »
    There are many reasons why LLs may leave, personally, my reasons are (in no particular order)

    • Property prices are pretty high and there is quite a good demand, so a good time to sell.

    • Rent Pressure Zone legislation limits what I can charge for the service I am providing.

    • Tenancy legislation favours tenants and rewards bad tenants by making it extremely difficult and expensive to remove them.

    • I just don’t want the hassle anymore, I really think this sector is better left to large scale “professionals” who have the resources to manage their properties, raise rents like clockwork, and can absorb losses better than small, one property LLs.

    I still have a couple of apartments, but they will be sold when the tenants move out.

    While I appreciate all your reasons for not wanting to continue I have stuck at it through thick and thin and am happy I did.

    I've had more horror stories than most and I know quite a few horror stories.

    Property prices are high at the moment but are also predicted to continue rising.

    Rent Pressure Zone Limits are unfair to some landlords but even in a Rent Pressure Zone renting to a RAS or HAP tenant you can increase the rent annually by 4%.

    The law favours the tenant but it pays to choose the right tenants even if the house is idle for a week or two it's worth it to wait for or seek out the right tenant.

    You only need to put a reminder in your phone for 2 months before you are entitled to raise the rent, this gives you the chance to put your request in writing and have time for it to be answered.

    You've got to be in it for the long haul to make it work and that means dealing with any problems as they arise and learning from them. If you can stick it for twenty years it's a no brainer and you'll hardly make a better investment.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭good vibes


    wench wrote: »
    What makes you think investing in a property is the "right thing"?
    Have you looked at investing in a stock market fund?
    Or a REIT if you want property exposure.


    Much less risk and hassle to you, and you can always cash out later and buy a property for yourself when you're ready.

    Thanks.. Ive considerd that but i don't want to take a risk with investments..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭good vibes


    While I appreciate all your reasons for not wanting to continue I have stuck at it through thick and thin and am happy I did.

    I've had more horror stories than most and I know quite a few horror stories.

    Property prices are high at the moment but are also predicted to continue rising.

    Rent Pressure Zone Limits are unfair to some landlords but even in a Rent Pressure Zone renting to a RAS or HAP tenant you can increase the rent annually by 4%.

    The law favours the tenant but it pays to choose the right tenants even if the house is idle for a week or two it's worth it to wait for or seek out the right tenant.

    You only need to put a reminder in your phone for 2 months before you are entitled to raise the rent, this gives you the chance to put your request in writing and have time for it to be answered.

    You've got to be in it for the long haul to make it work and that means dealing with any problems as they arise and learning from them. If you can stick it for twenty years it's a no brainer and you'll hardly make a better investment.

    Thank you good advice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,039 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    good vibes wrote: »
    Thanks.. Ive considerd that but i don't want to take a risk with investments..

    I lost 70k on selling a house.......

    Housing isn't risk-free.

    Albeit at the moment, with very strong rents, and no sign of any falls in house prices, I agree the financial risks are low.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭good vibes


    While I appreciate all your reasons for not wanting to continue I have stuck at it through thick and thin and am happy I did.

    I've had more horror stories than most and I know quite a few horror stories.

    Property prices are high at the moment but are also predicted to continue rising.

    Rent Pressure Zone Limits are unfair to some landlords but even in a Rent Pressure Zone renting to a RAS or HAP tenant you can increase the rent annually by 4%.

    The law favours the tenant but it pays to choose the right tenants even if the house is idle for a week or two it's worth it to wait for or seek out the right tenant.

    You only need to put a reminder in your phone for 2 months before you are entitled to raise the rent, this gives you the chance to put your request in writing and have time for it to be answered.

    You've got to be in it for the long haul to make it work and that means dealing with any problems as they arise and learning from them. If you can stick it for twenty years it's a no brainer and you'll hardly make a better investment.

    Ah im not out yet ! .. I could continue.. Just researching at the moment thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭wench


    good vibes wrote: »
    Thanks.. Ive considerd that but i don't want to take a risk with investments..
    Investments spread the risk over several companies or properties, so one doing badly won't tank you.
    You are proposing putting all your money on one house with one tenant.


    You should evaluate the real risks of both, and weigh them up.
    An appointment with a financial advisor would probably be worthwhile for this much money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    good vibes wrote: »
    Well im not "atemping *anything fraudulent..

    I was just inquiring about letting one room..& what the situation was with the tax if i was living abroad.. And is there a different situation for letting one room.. I seen something about that online.. Im just digging for answers.. Il have to get legal advice on that

    Any rental income in Ireland while you live abroad is taxable. Whether it's one room or more doesn't make a difference. You don't need legal advice you need advice from a taxation expert/accountant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭good vibes


    Geuze wrote: »
    I lost 70k on selling a house.......

    Housing isn't risk-free.

    Albeit at the moment, with very strong rents, and no sign of any falls in house prices, I agree the financial risks are low.

    ’Ouch...sorry to hear that ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭good vibes


    wench wrote: »
    Investments spread the risk over several companies or properties, so one doing badly won't tank you.
    You are proposing putting all your money on one house with one tenant.


    You should evaluate the real risks of both, and weigh them up.
    An appointment with a financial advisor would probably be worthwhile for this much money.

    As I said i will have to take legal advice...I’m researching...so I’m not proposing anything at the mo...I don’t have extra money to risk with investment .

    .if I rent out a whole house to a family I pay 17% tax a year a good Portion of that can be written off against the tax ...

    the only thing stopping me from doing that is the fear of getting bad tenants...I’ve heard all the horrific stories of good tenants turning bad...you can vet people forever but it’s still a major risk....

    it could easily end up costing me a lot of money and stress...that’s the problem..

    .unless I try to rent to friend’s only ....anyhoo ..it’s all ahead of me...
    Thanks for the help.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭good vibes


    Caravnica wrote: »
    Any rental income in Ireland while you live abroad is taxable. Whether it's one room or more doesn't make a difference. You don't need legal advice you need advice from a taxation expert/accountant.

    Correct.. I’ll be phoning the Revenue dept....

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Pinoy adventure


    There is a reason why LL are selling up all over the place.its simple so much hassle.
    Could you imagine you get a bad person in ? No rent for 6-12months or more and some landlords pay cash too get them out quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    There is a reason why LL are selling up all over the place.its simple so much hassle.
    Could you imagine you get a bad person in ? No rent for 6-12months or more and some landlords pay cash too get them out quickly.

    Don't be such a drama queen, if landlords were selling up all over the place house prices would be dropping like a lead balloon. It's simply not true.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Don't be such a drama queen, if landlords were selling up all over the place house prices would be dropping like a lead balloon. It's simply not true.

    Interesting articles in the papers two weeks ago, SF auctioneers confirmed 30% of all properties for sale are Landlords exiting the market. It is fair to assume that they are not the only auctioneers experiencing this.

    But carry on anyways Rows Grower.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Pinoy adventure


    Dav010 wrote: »
    Interesting articles in the papers two weeks ago, SF auctioneers confirmed 30% of all properties for sale are Landlords exiting the market. It is fair to assume that they are not the only auctioneers experiencing this.

    But carry on anyways Rows Grower.

    Correct.most if not all are experiencing this.so no need too throw your toys out of the pram rows grower


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭good vibes


    While I appreciate all your reasons for not wanting to continue I have stuck at it through thick and thin and am happy I did.

    I've had more horror stories than most and I know quite a few horror stories.

    Property prices are high at the moment but are also predicted to continue rising.

    Rent Pressure Zone Limits are unfair to some landlords but even in a Rent Pressure Zone renting to a RAS or HAP tenant you can increase the rent annually by 4%.

    The law favours the tenant but it pays to choose the right tenants even if the house is idle for a week or two it's worth it to wait for or seek out the right tenant.

    You only need to put a reminder in your phone for 2 months before you are entitled to raise the rent, this gives you the chance to put your request in writing and have time for it to be answered.

    You've got to be in it for the long haul to make it work and that means dealing with any problems as they arise and learning from them. If you can stick it for twenty years it's a no brainer and you'll hardly make a better investment.

    Thank you...good advice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭DubCount


    Don't be such a drama queen, if landlords were selling up all over the place house prices would be dropping like a lead balloon. It's simply not true.

    I reckon this will be a first for me, but I'm going to quote the Sinn Fein website !!

    "According to data from the Residential Tenancies Board we have lost almost 20,000 tenancies from the rental market since 2017"

    https://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/59403

    It simply is true :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Dav010 wrote: »
    Interesting articles in the papers two weeks ago, SF auctioneers confirmed 30% of all properties for sale are Landlords exiting the market. It is fair to assume that they are not the only auctioneers experiencing this.

    But carry on anyways Rows Grower.

    Any statistics on who's actually buying these properties?

    I wouldn't be at all surprised if a lot more than 30% were being bought by investors with a view to let.

    As you were.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Pinoy adventure


    Any statistics on who's actually buying these properties?

    I wouldn't be at all surprised if a lot more than 30% were being bought by investors with a view to let.

    As you were.

    Did you pull the 30% from the sky ???


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    DubCount wrote: »
    I reckon this will be a first for me, but I'm going to quote the Sinn Fein website !!

    "According to data from the Residential Tenancies Board we have lost almost 20,000 tenancies from the rental market since 2017"

    https://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/59403

    It simply is true :)

    I really am struggling to see what point you are trying to make, don't go into being a landlord because there are 20,000 more houses needed for rent?

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Pinoy adventure


    I really am struggling to see what point you are trying to make, don't go into being a landlord because there are 20,000 more houses needed for rent?

    Put the shoe on the other foot and ask why are they leaving the market in the first place .....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    Don't be such a drama queen, if landlords were selling up all over the place house prices would be dropping like a lead balloon. It's simply not true.

    Landlords have been exiting the market steadily for years. This hasn't had much impact because we are massively undersupplied and rentals have higher occupancy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭The Student


    Don't be such a drama queen, if landlords were selling up all over the place house prices would be dropping like a lead balloon. It's simply not true.

    Demand for property to purchase as owner occupier still outstrips supply.

    So landlords leaving the market is not coming anywhere close to meeting that demand.

    Only when supply exceed demand do prices fall.

    If anything house/property prices on a national scale are increasing.

    If your analogy was true prices should be falling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Did you pull the 30% from the sky ???

    It was referenced in the post I quoted.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Demand for property to purchase as owner occupier still outstrips supply.

    So landlords leaving the market is not coming anywhere close to meeting that demand.

    Only when supply exceed demand do prices fall.

    If anything house/property prices on a national scale are increasing.

    If your analogy was true prices should be falling.

    I don't need a student to tell me how the property market works but thanks anyway.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Put the shoe on the other foot and ask why are they leaving the market in the first place .....

    I don't need to imagine anything because I am speaking from real life experience.

    I didn't reply to this thread in the hope of having a debate with someone who has no life experience on the subject other than their mammy and daddy paying their rent for 4 years while instead of trying to qualify at something practical they spent their time online trying to make a valid case for something they know the sum total of the square root of fu*k all about.

    I replied to give the OP some advice from my experience.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭Government buildings


    The following is the best advice you will get regarding buying investment property:

    Anyone buying investment property in Ireland would want their head examined.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    The following is the best advice you will get regarding buying investment property:

    Anyone buying investment property in Ireland would want their head examined.

    A small bit of madness is good.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭Government buildings


    When you rent an investment property, you put yourself at the mercy of the tenant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭FromADistance


    good vibes wrote: »
    Hello there.

    I’m looking for a advice on buying a house to let, if any Landlords and property owners have any advice I’d appreciate it.

    I’m due my inheritance & I would like to buy a house in Dublin for a budget of €235,000, I’m aware of the market at the current moment.I would like to buy for cash now to let as I plan on living abroad. I have secured an agent ;( a friend ) to Look after a property when I do buy to let .
    I’m eager to buy now as I rent at present & I don’t want to eat into my budget.

    I’ve a couple of questions..

    1 .would it be better to wait ? Will house prices come down in the near future ?
    ( it doesn’t look like it ) as I said Im paying rent at the moment so I’m eager to buy asap

    2,with taxes costs ect is it worth buying now to let out a house ? ..rents are high so i could make a profit. But I also hear landlords are leaving the market ? I’m wondering Why ?

    3.I see Rents in county’s close to Dublin are the same as Dublin would I be better renting outside Dublin ? ...I say this because there is so little available in my budget in Dublin.

    4 .Does anybody live aboard & let their property? Wondering how that works with taxes costs Il will be calling revenue for the relevant information .

    Any help would be appreciated..

    Thanks in advance...

    Advice? Hold on to your cash. Especially if you're going to living abroad yourself. You're obviously going to need somewhere to live yourself. Why restrict yourself by having all your wealth invested in a property you won't be living in yourself or have hands on management of.

    Also, never depend on 2nd hand property management... anyone serious about renting out property, on an amateur basis, needs to be hands on, have their own rental criteria (abiding by the law of course) and stick to it full stop.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭berocca2016


    good vibes wrote: »
    Hello there.

    I’m looking for a advice on buying a house to let, if any Landlords and property owners have any advice I’d appreciate it.

    I’m due my inheritance & I would like to buy a house in Dublin for a budget of €235,000, I’m aware of the market at the current moment.I would like to buy for cash now to let as I plan on living abroad. I have secured an agent ;( a friend ) to Look after a property when I do buy to let .
    I’m eager to buy now as I rent at present & I don’t want to eat into my budget.

    I’ve a couple of questions..

    1 .would it be better to wait ? Will house prices come down in the near future ?
    ( it doesn’t look like it ) as I said Im paying rent at the moment so I’m eager to buy asap

    2,with taxes costs ect is it worth buying now to let out a house ? ..rents are high so i could make a profit. But I also hear landlords are leaving the market ? I’m wondering Why ?

    3.I see Rents in county’s close to Dublin are the same as Dublin would I be better renting outside Dublin ? ...I say this because there is so little available in my budget in Dublin.

    4 .Does anybody live aboard & let their property? Wondering how that works with taxes costs Il will be calling revenue for the relevant information .

    Any help would be appreciated..

    Thanks in advance...

    We live in an era of negative interest rates. There is no point holding cash as it is likely that the domestic banks will start charging negative interest rates.

    What I would recommend is PAYING to see an independent financial planner to find the most tax efficient way for you to make the most of this money.

    There is so many nuances around tax, residency, domiciliation that can't really be advised about on a boards thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭good vibes


    The following is the best advice you will get regarding buying investment property:

    Anyone buying investment property in Ireland would want their head examined.

    Why do you think so ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭good vibes


    We live in an era of negative interest rates. There is no point holding cash as it is likely that the domestic banks will start charging negative interest rates.

    What I would recommend is PAYING to see an independent financial planner to find the most tax efficient way for you to make the most of this money.

    There is so many nuances around tax, residency, domiciliation that can't really be advised about on a boards thread.

    Great advice ..I intend doing so...would you recommend anybody ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭berocca2016


    good vibes wrote: »
    Great advice ..I intend doing so...would you recommend anybody ?

    Depends where you're resident to be honest. Like if you're in a country with a large ex pat population there is probably specific businesses set up to advise people like you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    We live in an era of negative interest rates. There is no point holding cash as it is likely that the domestic banks will start charging negative interest rates.

    What I would recommend is PAYING to see an independent financial planner to find the most tax efficient way for you to make the most of this money.

    There is so many nuances around tax, residency, domiciliation that can't really be advised about on a boards thread.

    I can honestly say that this is sound advice. I was laughed at by some of my friends when I confided I had been to see a financial advisor a few decades ago.

    I was far from rich and didn't have any notions but the way I saw it if you want advice about something so important it only makes sense to seek out the advice of someone who knows what they are talking about.

    I was advised to get a tracker mortgage at a time when none of my friends had even heard of one (before the ads on the bus). It was only when the big bang hit around 2008 that we began to appreciate how lucky we were to have got that advice.

    We're still far from rich but we're not going hungry or dry, we can afford all our loans and the kids will have a few bob when we're gone.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭good vibes


    Depends where you're resident to be honest. Like if you're in a country with a large ex pat population there is probably specific businesses set up to advise people like you.

    Thanks.. I'm planning on moving to espana to teach English.. ..that's interesting.. could you elaborate a ittle more on that please..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭good vibes


    We live in an era of negative interest rates. There is no point holding cash as it is likely that the domestic banks will start charging negative interest rates.

    What I would recommend is PAYING to see an independent financial planner to find the most tax efficient way for you to make the most of this money.

    There is so many nuances around tax, residency, domiciliation that can't really be advised about on a boards thread.

    Thanks for that.. Yes i will seek independent financial advice..could you give me a little insight into the nuances around tax, residency, domiciliation you mention please...?

    But i hasten to add... I have no experience of that world so would be very nervous of investing..

    This is my nest egg & i feel i can't take any risks with it.. Call me old fashioned (im middle age.) . but i like to keep things simple.. Especially with money.. But il be interested to hear what a financial advisor has to say.

    , friends who have property have advised me to wait.. But id be concerned of eating into my budget if i wait.. Paying rent ect..
    But i hear you

    Thanks again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 Catglee


    good vibes wrote: »
    Hello there.

    I’m looking for a advice on buying a house to let, if any Landlords and property owners have any advice I’d appreciate it.

    I’m due my inheritance & I would like to buy a house in Dublin for a budget of €235,000, I’m aware of the market at the current moment.I would like to buy for cash now to let as I plan on living abroad. I have secured an agent ;( a friend ) to Look after a property when I do buy to let .
    I’m eager to buy now as I rent at present & I don’t want to eat into my budget.

    I’ve a couple of questions..

    1 .would it be better to wait ? Will house prices come down in the near future ?
    ( it doesn’t look like it ) as I said Im paying rent at the moment so I’m eager to buy asap

    2,with taxes costs ect is it worth buying now to let out a house ? ..rents are high so i could make a profit. But I also hear landlords are leaving the market ? I’m wondering Why ?

    3.I see Rents in county’s close to Dublin are the same as Dublin would I be better renting outside Dublin ? ...I say this because there is so little available in my budget in Dublin.

    4 .Does anybody live aboard & let their property? Wondering how that works with taxes costs Il will be calling revenue for the relevant information .

    Any help would be appreciated..

    Thanks in advance...

    I'd see a good financial advisor.

    If I were advising you I'd stick it in a medium risk fund, such as an ifund, which should make about 6% per annum.
    Id say you are around 30 years of age?... At that, by the time you are 60 that fund will have grown to approx 1.3m...and while these funds do have peaks and dips they do avg out over a long period of time.
    Now say you are 25 years old, by 60 that fund will have grown to circa 1.8m.....the power of compounding interest my friend.
    With a starting pot of 235k I'd def let compound interest take care of it... Its never late on rent and won't burst its pipes.
    BTW I do have an investment property.!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭good vibes


    I can honestly say that this is sound advice. I was laughed at by some of my friends when I confided I had been to see a financial advisor a few decades ago.

    I was far from rich and didn't have any notions but the way I saw it if you want advice about something so important it only makes sense to seek out the advice of someone who knows what they are talking about.

    I was advised to get a tracker mortgage at a time when none of my friends had even heard of one (before the ads on the bus). It was only when the big bang hit around 2008 that we began to appreciate how lucky we were to have got that advice.

    We're still far from rich but we're not going hungry or dry, we can afford all our loans and the kids will have a few bob when we're gone.

    Thank you.. Il heed your good advice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭good vibes


    Catglee wrote: »
    I'd see a good financial advisor.

    If I were advising you I'd stick it in a medium risk fund, such as an ifund, which should make about 6% per annum.
    Id say you are around 30 years of age?... At that, by the time you are 60 that fund will have grown to approx 1.3m...and while these funds do have peaks and dips they do avg out over a long period of time.
    Now say you are 25 years old, by 60 that fund will have grown to circa 1.8m.....the power of compounding interest my friend.
    With a starting pot of 235k I'd def let compound interest take care of it... Its never late on rent and won't burst its pipes.
    BTW I do have an investment property.!!


    Thank you... Great advice.. I'm early 50's, does that make your advice any different ? If i did invest as you advise What are the chances of a world wide crash in the future & my investments being lost & with that me being left broke ? That's my fear with investment.. I really have no experience of investing..i feel Id need to be secure with whatever i was investing in.. But I'm open to any help ot information you may have on this.
    Il sure it's a very good time to invest.

    Thanks again.. I appreciate the advice..


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