Bike on adverts almost certainly stolen

fret_wimp2

If it's very obvious a bike on adverts is a stolen bike, is there anything that can be done about it?

07Lapierre

How do you know it's stolen?

Report the ad to adverts/Gardai

fret_wimp2

07Lapierre wrote: »

How do you know it's stolen?

Report the ad to adverts/Gardai

I don't, hense the the phrase "almost certainly" in the thread title.

It's a brand new bike, not a scratch, selling for a sixth of its retail value of €2500+ with one single badly angled photo and zero detail in the description .

It's a suspicion. Without more information is it a case of move on and ignore?

magicbastarder

there's a 'report ad' link on each ad.
a few years ago, when a friend's stolen bike was placed on adverts, they were quite helpful.

07Lapierre

Post a link to the ad.

fat bloke

A quick search for bikes around 600 quid reveals a fairly shiny purple "Giant Racer"

fat bloke

600 quid for a 2020 Defy Advanced 1 is certainly. .. (ahem)... a steal

secman

fat bloke wrote: »

600 quid for a 2020 Defy Advanced 1 is certainly. .. (ahem)... a steal

Looks suspect alright

boombang

Grey tracksuit and cash literally in hand is hardly an endorsement. Previous sales of electric scooters might match this line of business. I would hope the Guards might be happy to do a sting here.

AmberGold

Yep robbed

De Bhál

secman wrote: »

Looks suspect alright

I like that yer man holding the bike in the picture has a hand full of cash. It just adds that little bit of extra class to the whole thing

Bikerman2019

Just go straight to the gardai. Telling adverts you think something is stolen does not really help. The gardai are the ones to talk to.

EltonJohn69

Someone is going to get a bargain

Bikerman2019

Dont report it to adverts, report it straight to the gardai, let them recover it properly if stolen, catch the fecks..

AmberGold

Garda won’t be interested, it’ll be noted in the big book in the station and that’ll be the end of it!

Bikerman2019

If you contact any site and say I THINK that is stolen, there is not a whole they can do about it.


The only people who can act are the gardai.

Cerveza

They are too busy policing holy wells.

EltonJohn69

Boards.ie members should set up a sting.... if Reddit can tank the stocks market then boards.ie can sabotage the sale of a stolen bike.

listermint

Certainly nicked, the clothing gives it away

Cerveza

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

Boards.ie members should set up a sting.... if Reddit can tank the stocks market then boards.ie can sabotage the sale of a stolen bike.

Boards.ie couldn’t organise a fire in a match factory.

07Lapierre

Ad has been withdrawn.

Bikerman2019

07Lapierre wrote: »

Ad has been withdrawn.

And now he and the bike can disappear into the night. No chance of recovering it now.

boombang

for jaysus sake

magicbastarder

folks - when there are suspected ads of stolen equipment on adverts, please *don't* name the seller in the thread. you're basically accusing someone of theft with no proof.
also, as seems to have been sensibly done above, don't place a link to any ads. for two reasons; a) you've no proof, if it is legit this could be libellous; and b) it could alert the seller, if it's not legit.

as i alluded to above, a friend of mine was one of the lucky few who got his bike back after it was spotted by a poster here, on adverts, and the adverts team were very good; they deliberately left the ad up so as not to alert the seller, and ringfenced the data they would have had on the backend lest the gardai request it. in this scenario, it wasn't required, the gardai brought my friend along to the sting operation.

also, reporting a bike stolen to the gardai i suspect would be a futile exercise unless you are the owner or are able to state that you know the bike is stolen. the gardai are not going to initiate sting operations based on a hunch.

EltonJohn69

magicbastarder wrote: »

folks - when there are suspected ads of stolen equipment on adverts, please *don't* name the seller in the thread. you're basically accusing someone of theft with no proof.
also, as seems to have been sensibly done above, don't place a link to any ads. for two reasons; a) you've no proof, if it is legit this could be libellous; and b) it could alert the seller, if it's not legit.

as i alluded to above, a friend of mine was one of the lucky few who got his bike back after it was spotted by a poster here, on adverts, and the adverts team were very good; they deliberately left the ad up so as not to alert the seller, and ringfenced the data they would have had on the backend lest the gardai request it. in this scenario, it wasn't required, the gardai brought my friend along to the sting operation.

also, reporting a bike stolen to the gardai i suspect would be a futile exercise unless you are the owner or are able to state that you know the bike is stolen. the gardai are not going to initiate sting operations based on a hunch.

I knew a sting operation was the way to go.

Vestiapx

Cerveza wrote: »

They are too busy policing holy wells.

Because it's Bridget's day? Lol really

corks finest

07Lapierre wrote: »

How do you know it's stolen?

Report the ad to adverts/Gardai

I reported to Adverts last year about a couple of scamners selling phones from a supposedly bricks and mortar establishment in Donegal and elsewhere,
Guys were vv vague when I asked them exactly where in Donegal was the shop as I lived up in Derry for 20 years but from Cork I know that part of the world intimately.
Myself and 2 others kept at him-them, told him I screenshot the conversation we had(supplied a number but not a land-line),
Told him straight up I knew he was scamming, and had already contacted the Gardai he eventually admitted there was no shop and he was being paid to put up ads on adverts and be a middleman to pass on details about buyers etc, and that he physically didn't have or seen any of the products advertised,
Reported several times to Adverts but the adds were still up a week later

Bikerman2019

corks finest wrote: »

I reported to Adverts last year about a couple of scamners selling phones from a supposedly bricks and mortar establishment in Donegal and elsewhere,
Guys were vv vague when I asked them exactly where in Donegal was the shop as I lived up in Derry for 20 years but from Cork I know that part of the world intimately.
Myself and 2 others kept at him-them, told him I screenshot the conversation we had(supplied a number but not a land-line),
Told him straight up I knew he was scamming, and had already contacted the Gardai he eventually admitted there was no shop and he was being paid to put up ads on adverts and be a middleman to pass on details about buyers etc, and that he physically didn't have or seen any of the products advertised,
Reported several times to Adverts but the adds were still up a week later

There is nothing in that post that is illegal. Saying he had a shop, but he didnt isn't. Passing on buyers info to the people who say they have phones is not either. Could have been across the border. Although, it could still be enough to have it removed if the info was collaborated.

corks finest

Bikerman2019 wrote: »

There is nothing in that post that is illegal. Saying he had a shop, but he didnt isn't. Passing on buyers info to the people who say they have phones is not either. Could have been across the border.

Copied his texts and screenshot of same when he admitted there were no phones, and the ppl dealing with him weren't even in Europe and were using his bank details for potential buyers to lodge money which he then was paid a commission
My point is there were no phones, yet the pictures on the link supplied photos of ppl purportedly in Letterkennyand and and other Irish areas receiving phones in a bricks n mortar establishment, and giving glowing reviews, all totally fabricated.
Link supplied by this conman put you to a messenger contact list where other ppl outside the state tried to relieve u of your hard earned.

There were no phones, and dissappeared after a week on adverts verified this, co incidentally the same adds were on DD, also vanished

All this was reported to Adverts

Bikerman2019

corks finest wrote: »

Copied his texts and screenshot of same when he admitted there were no phones, and the ppl dealing with him weren't even in Europe and were using his bank details for potential buyers to lodge money which he then was paid a commission
My point is there were no phones, yet the pictures on the link supplied photos of ppl purportedly in Letterkennyand and and other Irish areas receiving phones in a bricks n mortar establishment, and giving glowing reviews, all totally fabricated.
Link supplied by this conman put you to a messenger contact list where other ppl outside the state tried to relieve u of your hard earned.

There were no phones, and dissappeared after a week on adverts verified this, co incidentally the same adds were on DD, also vanished

All this was reported to Adverts

That makes more sense.

corks finest

magicbastarder wrote: »

there's a 'report ad' link on each ad.
a few years ago, when a friend's stolen bike was placed on adverts, they were quite helpful.

I found them v slow to act tbh

corks finest

Bikerman2019 wrote: »

That makes more sense.

Sorry just too lazy to give a detailed text, phones were far too cheap, and I repeatedly asked for a landline number in any part of the country to verify what was advertised was legal etc he declined,,,, and other ppl requested the same but adverts kept it on their site for over a week after all this

LollipopJimmy

corks finest wrote: »

I found them v slow to act tbh

I recovered a stolen bike from adverts. I reported it at the time and adverts left it up until I had carried out my plan.

corks finest

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

I recovered a stolen bike from adverts. I reported it at the time and adverts left it up until I had carried out my plan.

Fair dues

billyhead

I had a bike stolen before and put up on Adverts. I arranged to meet the seller in a sting operation which was 200 meters from the local Garda station. The intention was to meet and take it for a test ride to the station and report the seller their and then . Unfortunately the seller got cold feet 2 hours before the meet up and withdrew the add. The fecker was also selling garden tools @ equipment and other bikes. I reported him to adverts who do directed me to the Guards. They logged it in the book and I never heard from them again.

Bikerman2019

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

I recovered a stolen bike from adverts. I reported it at the time and adverts left it up until I had carried out my plan.

Indeed, you played smart. This bike is gone now, never to be seen again, and the seller as well.
The pile in that occured last night has done nobody any good.
From the original post here to the ad being withdrawn, that looks like what, 90 mins or so? Not bad late at night. You also would not know how long it was being looked at and considered before something happened and by whom.

Mimon

Cerveza wrote: »

They are too busy policing holy wells.

Have you heard of this global pandemic that is ongoing? Stopping groups of people congregating is an important part of their job now.

Belief in some all powerful sky being does not make anyone immune from catching and spreading it.

fret_wimp2

Its back up on the Cycle Buy & Sell Ireland FB page

AmberGold

He has it up on the Facebook group "Cycling Buy and Sell Ireland" now the fecker....

Bikerman2019

fret_wimp2 wrote: »

Its back up on the Cycle Buy & Sell Ireland FB page

Good luck getting Facebook to act on anything.......

MojoMaker

AmberGold wrote: »

He has it up on the Facebook group "Cycling Buy and Sell Ireland" now the fecker....

Link? Can't see it this morning.

Cee-Jay-Cee

MojoMaker wrote: »

Link? Can't see it this morning.

It was withdrawn when he was called out for it being stolen. I screen shot the ad and the sellers profile page. 99.9999% stolen. It was a purple fleck carbon defy and looked pretty new and he was selling it for €600 or best offer. When asked what size it was he replied, its a Giant Defy and then got all mouthy about wasting his time when asked to show the receipts he said he has.

MojoMaker

You called him out on the Facebook Group "(Cycling Products for Sale) Buy and Sell Ireland"?

I went over there minutes after someone earlier said it had moved from Adverts to there, couldn't see it.

fat bloke

Bikerman2019 wrote: »

Indeed, you played smart. This bike is gone now, never to be seen again, and the seller as well.
The pile in that occured last night has done nobody any good.

Not sure about that now. See a fire, shout "fire". Don't think it helps anyone to keep schtum and say nothing either.
There isn't a whole lot can be done from a forum point of view but the ad has been removed which at least temporarily thwarted a sale and, worse, an unwitting purchase. A lot more people know about the bike, anyone watching the ad has an awareness of the bike being (possibly) dodgy. Ditto for any facebook users watching it. And if it crops up again, maybe we'll whack another mole. It's not going to put an end to bike-crime but... better than nuthin' innit, surely?

boombang

I named the seller's user name earlier in the thread. I knew it would be deleted by the mods. I'm not trying to wind the mods up, but I find it so frustrating that there's we need to muzzle ourselves on what seems like reasonable cause for suspicion. Our society has its priorities arseways. Anyway, that's another discussion.

Apologies to the mods. I probably could have made the point without naming the seller's username.

Bikerman2019

fat bloke wrote: »

Not sure about that now. See a fire, shout "fire". Don't think it helps anyone to keep schtum and say nothing either.
There isn't a whole lot can be done from a forum point of view but the ad has been removed which at least temporarily thwarted a sale and, worse, an unwitting purchase. A lot more people know about the bike, anyone watching the ad has an awareness of the bike being (possibly) dodgy. Ditto for any facebook users watching it. And if it crops up again, maybe we'll whack another mole. It's not going to put an end to bike-crime but... better than nuthin' innit, surely?

If the gardai had have been mobilised, they could have "bought" it and jumped him. That is not keeping schtum.


He got away and is free to rob more (if it was stolen)

fat bloke

Bikerman2019 wrote: »

If the gardai had have been mobilised, they could have "bought" it and jumped him. That is not keeping schtum.


He got away and is free to rob more (if it was stolen)

The consensus however seems to be that the guards would do nothing of the sort?

clevtrev

fat bloke wrote: »

The consensus however seems to be that the guards would do nothing of the sort?

I visited 2 garda stations when my bike was put up on Adverts.ie. The first garda station asked where it was stolen from and when I told them they said it was outside of their area and to go to the garda station in that locality (Donnybrook). Not sure why it was relevant regarding where the bike was stolen from when it was sitting on the adverts.ie. Anyway when I got to that Donnybrook the station was closed for the night at 21:00. Obviously not a lot of night time crime to be tackled in Donnybrook!

I Didn't really feel the garda had any interest in helping - I think the days of stings by the Garda to help you get your bike back are far and few between.

Similar to a kidnapping time is of the essence so I bid on the bike and got it back myself.

Cee-Jay-Cee

MojoMaker wrote: »

You called him out on the Facebook Group "(Cycling Products for Sale) Buy and Sell Ireland"?

I went over there minutes after someone earlier said it had moved from Adverts to there, couldn't see it.

No not me, someone else did.

a148pro

clevtrev wrote: »

I visited 2 garda stations when my bike was put up on Adverts.ie. The first garda station asked where it was stolen from and when I told them they said it was outside of their area and to go to the garda station in that locality (Donnybrook). Not sure why it was relevant regarding where the bike was stolen from when it was sitting on the adverts.ie. Anyway when I got to that Donnybrook the station was closed for the night at 21:00. Obviously not a lot of night time crime to be tackled in Donnybrook!

I Didn't really feel the garda had any interest in helping - I think the days of stings by the Garda to help you get your bike back are far and few between.

Similar to a kidnapping time is of the essence so I bid on the bike and got it back myself.

This is pretty shocking. Sounds stupid but you have to ring Joe Duffy on something like that. Unless you spoke to the Super and got a very positive response.

How did it go down meeting the scobe who had your bike?

Bikerman2019

fat bloke wrote: »

The consensus however seems to be that the guards would do nothing of the sort?

And the alterative is they will ABSOLUTELY do nothing of the sort.