The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 3) Mod Notes and Threadbanned List in OP

BlueSkyDreams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120429479#Comment_120429479

Well what would they do differently to drastically increase the number of new homes being built?

They dont have a plan.

And even if they ever did have a plan, they dont have the money not the resources to enact it.

redlough

Paddy Cosgrove, the supposed millionaire, is offering 2023 euro for an artist to paint a giant wall of the image Eoin shared

What a miserable **** he is

If he added another zero to it he would be closer to what an artist should earn for that.

Brendan Bendar

Eoineen seems to have overstepped the mark here!

Probably thought himself and the squeeze could screw the taxpayer out of a few more Eurons.

Getting a tad careless here, is my opinion.

I see Gerry Adam’s former friend and bodyguard, security service informer and member of the truly stomach-churning Nutting Squad has died.

Hungry Burger

The one silver lining to a Sinn Fein led government would be ensuring they would never get into power again, They’d be 10x worse than FFG.

Galwayguy35

McDonald looked like she wanted to be anywhere else rather than where she was being interviewed by McCullagh about Dowdall.

wetlandsboy

Her ability to talk down the clock when asked a question is admirable in a weird kind of way. Her media handlers gave her the talking points, and boy did she keep to them. She even managed to finish the interview with some typical SF babble about the hard working people of the inner city or some such nonsense!

technocrat

Funnily enough The Tonight show on TV3 has no SF rep tonight that must be a first!

One could wonder coincidence or not… hmm.

Larbre34

I don't believe in coincidences.

SF made their statement, Mary Lou made her act of contrition on the 6-1. My guess is that's the last you'll hear from them on the matter.

The question is, whether enough voters give their head a wobble and remember that this is Sinn Féin, this has always been Sinn Féin and this will always be Sinn Féin.

The Online Army have congregated on Twitter this evening and McCullagh is in their sights. There’s a lot of anger and bile on display.

Up to the oxters in criminality. “Gangland”, diesel smuggling, tax evasion.

blanch152

https://sluggerotoole.com/2023/04/12/a-wise-insightful-examination-of-the-perils-and-possibilities-of-irish-unity/

"A major problem will be the rise and rise of Sinn Fein. “There is near-unanimity among interviewees that Sinn Fein in government in the South would be a major obstacle to a united Ireland”, says O’Malley. He quotes a range of people of different views on this. The Dublin TD Jim O’Callaghan, who has ambitions to lead Fianna Fail, says “one of the biggest obstacles to unification is the campaign of violence that was carried out by the Provisional IRA…It’s a deciding factor for a lot of unionist people in Northern Ireland who will not engage rationally with the topic [because of what] happened in the past.”

Sinn Fein is still seen as the political wing of the IRA, says Ulster Unionist leader Doug Beattie. “They still condone and celebrate the murders of the IRA over many years, some of the most heinous crimes imaginable: burning people to death, strapping people to bombs, blowing people up as they attend charity events. There’s a psyche in unionists who will just not give ground to the likes of Sinn Fein. If Sinn Fein became the largest [party in the] government in the Irish Republic, and they are the government, they will be viewed as a hostile government.” With Sinn Fein in government north and south, he believes “the whole balance of the Good Friday Agreement will come unstuck.”

They are also seen as the biggest obstacle to a united Ireland, as this article explains.

Topgear on Dave

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120489833#Comment_120489833

Oh man just saw replies to Hugh o Connell and Fionan Sheehan tweets this morning, a lot of lads there need to chill.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120490868#Comment_120490868

Not too sure attracting the extremely angry man in his 30’s who spends all his time online is going to work out for SF.

Larbre34

So we're to understand that senior administrators of Sinn Féin, who are still serving, did vett Dowdall and were aware of serious allegations and rumours surrounding him and yet still put him forward as a Council election candidate.

Seems to me that Mary Lou and her party executive have very serious questions to answer about their processes and their scruples.

Larbre34

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120490868#Comment_120490868

They don't like it up them. Not one bit.

blackwhite

They've been aping the MAGA playbook for a few years now.

"Mainsteam media is against us", anything negative is fake news, constantly attack the messengers, respond to any questioning by unleashing hordes of abuse.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120491905#Comment_120491905

Unfortunately it is working. Look at social media platforms like this, or the mainstream media and you will see that they are applying the BMLMS censorship rule more and more.

mikethecop

So at best sf knew its members were involved in gangland crime and didn't care and at worst its party policy

if it was one a once off occurrence argument could be made for the former but the massive weight of evidence suggest the latter to be true

gormdubhgorm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120490868#Comment_120490868

I just looked at it there thinking it couldn't be that bad. Then looked at Sheehan's feed it seems incessant and has a crusade air to it. In a sense it lifts the veil of the underbelly of SF and speaks to the real mindset. To me it is a case of giving them enough rope and they will hang themselves.

This probably the worst thing that could have happened SF will raise massive question marks among the young middle classes that SF need to get the majority.

Also this is extremely difficult for SF to bat off it is not the run of the Republican paramilitary stuff that SF can always brush off. This is Dublin gangland stuff, and it is the sort of demographic (working classes) SF think they have a hold on. But now they have to disassociate themselves from. SF are now caught between two stools, lie down with dogs and get up with fleas, Or dissociate themselves from the dogs and lose a lot of their bite.

Augme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120499096#Comment_120499096

Fair to say you are massively over estimating the impact this will have for voters. The link to Dowdall has been none for ages and has very little impact on the various polling number. In the same time, FG numbers have plummeted.

Brendan Bendar

Voters won’t forget…… let’s wait and see.

Ha Long Bay

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120501661#Comment_120501661

Hopefully these investigative journalists will get to the truth.

Brendan Bendar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120501705#Comment_120501705

Indeed, the alleged links between SF and criminality especially after the Dowdall debacle do need to be

investigated more robustly, you are correct there.

Guildenstern

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120500988#Comment_120500988

Yes, and if people are trying to get at SF, they have to stick to policies. It must grate many on this thread to see SF continuously ahead, poll after poll after poll, despite the media reminding us at every opportunity that Dowdall was an ex SF cllr. That ship has sailed.

By all means challenge policy, not just trying to play up some sort of bogeyman IRA image.

Brendan Bendar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120502297#Comment_120502297

Yes, it must grate bigtime on some people to see that the murky past of some SF reps is bubbling up to the surface.

This is stuff SF have valiantly tried to block and indeed quite a few try their hardest to try and make this murky past somehow ‘unheard’.

Even now they seem to be rowing back on their attitude to the SCC, in other words, they seem to have seen the light.

mikethecop

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120502297#Comment_120502297

you suggest that we just accept as part of normal business sfs criminal links and activities ?

I mean some people might be willing to elect a active and openly operating criminal cartel to power in the country but i just dont fancy living under gangland despots 🤷‍♀️

Furze99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120502297#Comment_120502297

Do yourself a favour and read Shane Ross's biography of Mary Lou and Sinn Féin. I would have thought Ross to be a hostile biographer before I read it, but he shows time & again that he has and had great time for Mary Lou. But whilst he finds a way to shine a light in here & there through gaps, the twin subjects of McDonald and SF and how they are run, are still very obscure. Very murky. So many unanswered questions. Anyone who votes for a SF candidate is literally taking a crap shot in the dark.

Guildenstern

Do you both think we'll be having one set of gangsters to replace another?

Brendan Bendar

Now a good example is a lad I feel is one of the better and more realistic performers for SF - David Cullinane.

Yet this same lad came up with “Up the RA” and “We broke the bastard State” after his election it was reported.

One would have to ask in the light of that ‘Where does he really stand?”.

Its stuff like that needs to be cleared up.