The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 3) Mod Notes and Threadbanned List in OP

rdwight

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118541323#Comment_118541323

It's unfortunate that SF have lost a quality TD like Violet-Anne Wynne.

But on a positive note it appears, unbelievable as it may seem, that Sinead Ennis is still a member in good standing.

As is, it would seem, the woman who called Violet-Anne a "f**king eejit" for getting pregnant. And here was I thinking SF was a Pro Choice party.

Bubbaclaus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118732608#Comment_118732608

Welcome brand new poster :)

mikethecop

WTF is a WUM?

Beasty

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118732608#Comment_118732608

I'm baffled

It seems that some posters claiming to support one particular party never want to say good things about that party, just bad things about other parties and indeed individuals

User sitebanned for attempting to doxx a user (would probably have been banned anyway, but the doxx made it a very easy decision to make) - that post now deleteds

Unfortunately their other account (which thanked this post - where have I seen that before?) is also banned

BTW "WUM" - Wind Up Merchant - "BTW" means By The Way

Now back to discussing those wondrous adventures everyone

Bubbaclaus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118733126#Comment_118733126

Disappointed he is gone before I could find out which Cork County Councillor I am 😄

astrofool

So the party of "no coronations" only seems to have coronations, only 1 nominee put forward for vacant council seat:

Row about Sinn Féin TD's wife being only nominee for vacant council seat (irishexaminer.com)

More interestingly, who would take over from MLM in the future? Pearse?

Down 1% in the recent poll.

“Meanwhile, the poll shows an increase in support for Fianna Fáil which is up three points on the same poll last month to 20pc. But Sinn Féin continues to be the most popular party in the State with 31pc (down 1), Fine Gael is on 21pc (down 1), the Social Democrats on 6pc (up 1), the Greens on 4pc (no change), Solidarity-People Before Profit on 4pc (up 1), Labour on 3pc (no change), Aontú on 2pc (down 1) and Independents and others on 9pc (down 1).” https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/michael-mcgrath-and-simon-coveney-top-poll-as-the-publics-preferred-choices-for-ff-and-fg-leadership-41415381.html

mattser

FF/FG 38%

SF/G/SD/L/Mulligans dogs 33%

FF/SF 13%

Interesting.

markodaly

Anyone catch Claire's Byrne, The Gathering on Friday.

We have SF's own Louise O'Reilly trying to revise history as to SF's historical support for Putin, right up to the present day.

She was utterly eviscerated by the panel. Shona Murray from Euro News and Jack Horgan-Jones from the Irish Times really went for her lies, which was kind of extraordinary. Dara Calleary from FF didn't have to say much as poor ol' Louise kept on digging.

Apparently, the reason SF didn't vote to expel Russian diplomats back in 2014 after the Salisbury attack, was because they wanted to wait to see if the Irish Intelligence service could fact check what the British, and Americans and everyone else was saying in relation to the attack. It was quickly pointed out to her that there is no CIA or MI5/MI6 version in Ireland... so such a check was never possible.

Oh and of course, she fully supports expelling Russians now.

The boys in West Belfast must be working over time to try and revise their history.

markodaly

https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/clips/22070346/

Brendan Bendar

One has to wonder has the penny finally dropped or is dropping in RTE and they have put more effort into ‘balance’ for these type of ‘discussion’ .

Up to now the main strategy is pack the panel with like minded people, bring in some govt ‘junior’ and flake the arse off him/her.

Examples Katie Hannon, Ballsys prog, Late Debate, and others.

Seems they have at last tried to balance out these things better as Marks clip illustrates.

Didnt have time to listen so can’t comment but I get the picture.

Hope thIs post is considered on topic.

blanch152

I am still struggling to get my head around why Sinn Fein were so strong against motions protecting the territorial integrity of Ukraine.

It seems that Sinn Fein believe that if a great power like Russia (UK) have fears about a minority of their Russian people (Unionists) living in their smaller neighbour Ukraine (Ireland) together with fears that that country might join their enemy NATO (Warsaw Pact), then Russia (UK) would be ok to violate the borders of that smaller country Ukraine (Ireland) and takeover part of it like Crimea (Northern Ireland). It was only when they later went on to invade the full country (Ireland) that Sinn Fein were against it.

It really beggars belief that they stood by Russia for so long.

markodaly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118743042#Comment_118743042

It is basically down to this..

If the Brits are on one side of the coin, SF et al, will generally side or at least show sympathy with the other side of the coin.

It doesn't matter if it's Putin, Russia, ISIS or Al-Qaeda... SF types will show sympathy towards them because.... "The Brits, 800 years, Cromwell, Up da RA....". You get the idea.

malk518

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118743622#Comment_118743622

Are the Brits on one side of the coin? https://twitter.com/nicktolhurst/status/1500552674311385090?t=m1VdFj6XLN2wlKHhZaoUhA&s=19

malk518

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118743042#Comment_118743042

It beggers belief that the government has done nothing against Russian she'll companies. Lots of virtue signalling alright but little concrete action. Mairead Farrell of SF pointed this out. This is a key weakness in the Irish response. Why no action on the government side? Is it because virtue signalling is cheaper?

https://twitter.com/sinnfeinireland/status/1498732631340552195?t=zzPdEW6zGEYOF7qB-5hdjA&s=19

starkid

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118743622#Comment_118743622

show sympathy to anything anti british...but watch their media, read their newspapers, support their football teams and so on. a special type of mindset. as well as the the reasons you lay out, SF and those types identify with a Russia because its all the same blind black and white nationalism with no nuance(and of course the old left leaning USSR). Kind of like how SF can be a powerful anti war voice when their supporters and colleagues waged a war (their words, just or not) that killed innocent people as well as opposing soldiers. sometimes blind nationalism makes zero sense.

It will be interesting to see if any money trails or full links with Russia or whatnot pop up in the future. i wouldn´t be surprised. and yes i am aware its not only the left with that threat. But again this thread is about SF.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118744003#Comment_118744003

Not going to comment on off-topic subjects.

You were quoting my post, do you have anything to add on the strangeness of Sinn Fein's stance on Russia?

Brendan Bendar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118744003#Comment_118744003

There’s a very simple answer to that, my friend.

Any action the Govt take they have to evaluate and calculate the consequences for the country and it’s people.

They have that balance to make ,and manage and deal any fallout and negative impact.

SF have no such restrictiction and hence can ‘call for’ all kinds of ‘actions’ without having to take in

the obvious and possible disasterous repercussions.

Its that simple

malk518

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118744659#Comment_118744659

What's strange? SF have been questioning Irish links with Russia. Why has Mairead Farrell not received a reply?

malk518

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118745125#Comment_118745125

So the government can virtue signal away while you can excuse away inaction in other areas? Can't lose it seems. Best of both worlds.

markodaly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118745558#Comment_118745558

Do you expect the government to issue an official reply to her tweet?

Brendan Bendar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118745566#Comment_118745566

Just read the post , my friend.

I am excusing nothing, just setting out the facts.

Nothing more, nothing less.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118745558#Comment_118745558

I think you are a little confused. Rather than Sinn Fein questioning Irish links with Russia, the Irish people have been questioning Sinn Fein's links with Russia.

Sinn Fein were played by Putin and his henchmen, to be fair, they have seen through it quicker than Wallace and Daly but up until two weeks ago Sinn Fein were blaming NATO and the EU for the problems in Ukraine.

malk518

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118745786#Comment_118745786

The IFSC questions are going back alot longer. They're now in focus as sanctions internationally are being applied. How do you think opposition parties have more to answer than the actual parties that can apply sanctions? It makes no sense.

malk518

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118745578#Comment_118745578

She asked in the dail. It was not answered.

markodaly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118745912#Comment_118745912

It was, it just wasn't the answer she wanted.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118745901#Comment_118745901

I am certain that the government are applying all EU and UN sanctions. Are you suggesting that they aren't?

Or are you suggesting (as this is the Sinn Fein thread) that Sinn Fein would apply more sanctions than the EU to their friend Putin?

malk518

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118745984#Comment_118745984

I'm suggesting they're not applying what they can before talk of joining military allicances. France has taken control the assets of oligarchs yet we're allowing their companies to trade as usual in the IFSC. Why not disclose the extend of Russia involvement in the IFSC? Methinks there's serious projection going on with the finger pointing at SF.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118746241#Comment_118746241

So, again I ask, are you accusing the government of not applying the EU sanctions?

Brendan Bendar

The EU as I think is right want to approach sanctions in a co-ordinated controlled manner.

The Govt have explained this many many times.

Taking a ‘scattergun random approach ‘ as seems to be advocated by the opposition of various hues is

of very limited value.

It merely makes things worse.