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Vendor specific charging networks, yay or nay?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,121 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    zg3409 wrote: »
    At the start Nissan rolled out their own network in Ireland a zero cost to users, but presumably substantial cost to themselves.

    Tesla rolled out their own network mostly in advance of opening an Irish dealership. They have teased at new sites for years and years.

    Ionity rolled out a CCS network, incompatible with Nissan and specific dealer discounts to their partner brands.

    These all have been done to benefit sales of specific brands over others. (Nissan could have gone to CCS years ago)

    Tesla allowing others is a joke. If the deal was good, someone would have taken it. As said they could offer it today direct to users. In the USA the connector is not standard. Assuming Tesla uses 5000 euro from each vehicle sale for the charging network, the users also value the network to pay a oremiyk for access to a private charging network. Its less of an issue in Ireland due to small size, but a cross Europe trip could really be much more difficult in a same battery size EV without access.

    In the UK they introduced regulations so all new chargers accept credit cards (often a higher fee) and easygo here has that at at least 2 sites. These days an app might be easier than credit card readers, but visa/MasterCard is a good standard.

    If they introduced rules in Ireland to force Tesla to take any CCS car, would the uptake of EVs increase, and would Tesla abandon new planned sites?

    It seems crazy drivers running out of power at sites where a public charger is broken, next to a bank of barely used one brand only chargers. Thus is the sort if thing where Europe should make rules, even if they are only enforced in say 4 years time
    Buy the correct EV supported by the network and you wouldnt have that problem.


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