Thinking of an estate car!

Cuttlefish

OK so my old 2005 Mazda 3 is starting to give some issues and I am thinking of replacing her with a new second hand car!!

originally was thinking of an SUV style but over recent days have been scouring Carzone etc for estate cars and would like to know what your petrolheads think of these


Budget is about 15K and looking at 2014 - 2017 vintage

Based on reviews they say the Skoda Octavia is a great estate and I am thinking of it however am drawn towards the VW Golf Estate, Toyota Auris Estate and the Ford Focus Estate


Do you think these are good cars to think of?

Atlantic Dawn

That era Golf was not officially sold here in estate version so numbers are tiny. Have you considered a Skoda Superb?

Fann Linn

Would ye get a new Logan MVP estate for your budget. Huge car.

Cuttlefish

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

That era Golf was not officially sold here in estate version so numbers are tiny. Have you considered a Skoda Superb?

I was actually thinking of a Skoda until a local dealer put me off saying they have issues after 40/50KM but speaking to a work colleague and he has a Skoda Octavia saloon and is more than happy with it, it being his second Skoda

Cuttlefish

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

That era Golf was not officially sold here in estate version so numbers are tiny. Have you considered a Skoda Superb?

Forgot to add have seen some 2015 Golf estates

Buddy Bubs

Cuttlefish wrote: »

I was actually thinking of a Skoda until a local dealer put me off saying they have issues after 40/50KM but speaking to a work colleague and he has a Skoda Octavia saloon and is more than happy with it, it being his second Skoda

They don't have issues after 50k kms any more than any other brand. Sure, some of them do but so do a few examples of everything on the road. Defo not high numbers of issues after 50k and the best estate car out there by a mile.
I wouldn't buy one myself I'd buy an a6 or e class but the Skoda you'll get a younger car with less miles for same money.

colm_mcm

Cuttlefish wrote: »

I was actually thinking of a Skoda until a local dealer put me off saying they have issues after 40/50KM but speaking to a work colleague and he has a Skoda Octavia saloon and is more than happy with it, it being his second Skoda

That’s nonsense. What was he trying to sell you?

freddyuk

We got one recently 2018 year. All bells and whistles and tons of room. Don't take my word but have a trawl through BRISKODA forums where you will find out all the issues (pros and cons) from other owners.

Cuttlefish

colm_mcm wrote: »

That’s nonsense. What was he trying to sell you?

Ford C-Max!

colm_mcm

Cuttlefish wrote: »

Ford C-Max!

They’re crap. The engines fall off. Bloke said. Down the pub.

Neagra

Cuttlefish wrote: »

OK so my old 2005 Mazda 3 is starting to give some issues and I am thinking of replacing her with a new second hand car!!

originally was thinking of an SUV style but over recent days have been scouring Carzone etc for estate cars and would like to know what your petrolheads think of these


Budget is about 15K and looking at 2014 - 2017 vintage

Based on reviews they say the Skoda Octavia is a great estate and I am thinking of it however am drawn towards the VW Golf Estate, Toyota Auris Estate and the Ford Focus Estate


Do you think these are good cars to think of?

i have always had estates as they are so practical.

i have the vw golf estate 1.6 trubo excellent car
good mileage, good space but not too big either, lovely smooth drive and looks good which is unlike alot if estates.

i previously owned 2 ford focus estates but found that there was always issues with engine issues and power steering.

i also own a toyota rav - great drive and i would highly recommend it.

1874

Estates are great, Its a small community of people, not tight knit, wierdos, welcome
In all honesty, I dont know why there aren't more estates on the road, Im sure they are getting marginally more popular.
I like them.

65535

I have a 2015 Octavia Diesel Estate with the DSG Gearbox - Absolutely no problems
Big Labrador goes in the back if we ever get a chance to get out again.
Lots of space etc.
Great MPG

65535

https://youtu.be/oiz1YTN-2Yc

High Mileage Octavia

boombang

I got a 2016 1.4 Tsi petrol DSG Octavia Estate recently and I really like it. Huge boot. Make sure you get one with a false floor in the boot to eliminate the load lip.

ednwireland

i got a kia ceed estate a couple off years ago not disappointed with it

how about

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/kia-ceed-1-6-crdi-134bhp-6-sp-man-isg-gt-line/24203554

techie

Got one of these recently, great car:

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2016-hyundai-i30-estate-1-6-crdi/25661575

Jofspring

Looking at an estate myself. Could really do with the big boot. Toying between a Skoda superb and Audi A4. Octavia looks decent too but the Superb just looks that step up.

The Audi comes at a premium of about 4k extra for a similar year Skoda but it has a smaller boot. Not a huge amount of superbs around in main Skoda dealers and the biggest problem at the moment is getting the chance to take a few for a spin.

How have you found garages OP? With all the restrictions are they keen to sell or happy to sit it out.

Have a 2010 Passat CC to trade in or sell privately, so putting some feelers out there at moment to get an idea of what I'd get for my own.

Cuttlefish

What do ye think of this one...



https://www.newmarketmotors.ie/used-vehicles/11778241-volkswagen-golf-estate-comfortline-1.6-tdi-genuine-irish-car/

Buddy Bubs

Cuttlefish wrote: »

What do ye think of this one...



https://www.newmarketmotors.ie/used-vehicles/11778241-volkswagen-golf-estate-comfortline-1.6-tdi-genuine-irish-car/

Same as every golf I see, overpriced!!
Thats probably what they go for though, they hold their value exceptionally well and whatever you pay you'll get a good chunk back if the golf estate holds value like the standard golf hatchback.
Only thing is, you'd move up a class or 2 for much the same money.
You seem to like the golf though so worth shortlisting. If you want to stay in volkswagen stable though, you'll find a passat for much the same money

Cuttlefish

Buddy Bubs wrote: »

Same as every golf I see, overpriced!!
Thats probably what they go for though, they hold their value exceptionally well and whatever you pay you'll get a good chunk back if the golf estate holds value like the standard golf hatchback.
Only thing is, you'd move up a class or 2 for much the same money.
You seem to like the golf though so worth shortlisting. If you want to stay in volkswagen stable though, you'll find a passat for much the same money

Yeah looked at some Passats last night most are in the 2.0L range was really looking for a 2 litre car as I was thinking that in new future government policy will drive up motor tax - I am probably totally wrong on this but in back of my head am thinking that

Also Passat is a lot bigger than a golf estate.

am open to other cars/ vendors too such as this for example...



https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/toyota/auris/fpa/202005259532609?journey=Search


Main thing I want reliability and some comfort

bazz26

Have a look at the Renault Megane estate, 15k will get you a 2017 or even possibly a 2018 example:

https://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=2703361&r=s.php%3Fm%5B%5D%3D72%26o%5B%5D%3D2189%26yn%3D2017%26yx%3D2018%26pp%3D50%26g%3D0

https://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=2639906&r=s.php%3Fm%5B%5D%3D72%26o%5B%5D%3D619%26b%3D3%26yn%3D2017%26yx%3D2018%26pp%3D50%26g%3D0

Cuttlefish

bazz26 wrote: »

Have a look at the Renault Megane estate, 15k will get you a 2017 or even possibly a 2018 example:

https://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=2703361&r=s.php%3Fm%5B%5D%3D72%26o%5B%5D%3D2189%26yn%3D2017%26yx%3D2018%26pp%3D50%26g%3D0

https://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=2639906&r=s.php%3Fm%5B%5D%3D72%26o%5B%5D%3D619%26b%3D3%26yn%3D2017%26yx%3D2018%26pp%3D50%26g%3D0

Based on past experience with two Renault Scenic cars, which I loved driving, I have steered away from looking at Renault from a reliability view point the electrics let me down

Those two cars look great by the way

bazz26

Renault reliability has improved vastly in the last 10+ years. They even gave 5 year warranties on their cars in that time.

Mad_maxx

Cuttlefish wrote: »

OK so my old 2005 Mazda 3 is starting to give some issues and I am thinking of replacing her with a new second hand car!!

originally was thinking of an SUV style but over recent days have been scouring Carzone etc for estate cars and would like to know what your petrolheads think of these


Budget is about 15K and looking at 2014 - 2017 vintage

Based on reviews they say the Skoda Octavia is a great estate and I am thinking of it however am drawn towards the VW Golf Estate, Toyota Auris Estate and the Ford Focus Estate


Do you think these are good cars to think of?

Skoda Superb , even you need to buy older , buy it over the octavia

Fann Linn

Fann Linn wrote: »

Would ye get a new Logan MVP estate for your budget. Huge car.

A Logan is quite compact surely?

jmreire

Cuttlefish wrote: »

I was actually thinking of a Skoda until a local dealer put me off saying they have issues after 40/50KM but speaking to a work colleague and he has a Skoda Octavia saloon and is more than happy with it, it being his second Skoda

In my Family, we have presently , 2 Superbs, 2 Octavias and previously there was a Skoda Roomster, bought new in 2008, traded in @400'000 + klms...and still driving around. Previous to this, going back 10 years, I drove a Octavia too. Guess what our next cars will be??? We never had any major issues with any of them....serviced on time, and tyres wipers . brake pads etc. replaced as needed, orv even before.

Knine

I have the Hyundai i30 Tourer Estate & love it. It has extra handy storage space under the boot cover! I changed from the Focus Estate

blackbox

ednwireland wrote: »

i got a kia ceed estate a couple off years ago not disappointed with it

how about

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/kia-ceed-1-6-crdi-134bhp-6-sp-man-isg-gt-line/24203554

The other half has one of these from new and it has been excellent. It's diesel, so you need to be doing the miles. I've heard the 1.4 is very slow, so look for a 1.6.

marklazarcovic

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-avensis-2-0-d-4d-business-edition-tourer/25899059

The 2.0 d4d is the one you want,not 1.6 or 2.2

colm_mcm

Cuttlefish wrote: »

Yeah looked at some Passats last night most are in the 2.0L range was really looking for a 2 litre car as I was thinking that in new future government policy will drive up motor tax - I am probably totally wrong on this but in back of my head am thinking that

Also Passat is a lot bigger than a golf estate.

am open to other cars/ vendors too such as this for example...



https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/toyota/auris/fpa/202005259532609?journey=Search


Main thing I want reliability and some comfort

That’s a really bad reason to rule a good car out.
The VW 2.0 is far superior to the 1.6 by the way and still very economical.

That Golf you posted is pretty grim inside with all the silver bits and the small looking screen.

colm_mcm

Augeo wrote: »

A Logan is quite compact surely?

Yep. They’re narrow enough, but they’re laid out well in the back and the seat is wide for a small car. They’ve got a huge boot, but at the end of it, this is still basically a supermini estate.

1percent

Have a 09 Passat 2.0 TDI Highline, love it, it is at 340k km and still not a bother on it. Ok 2 glow plugs are gone but she starts first time every time. Even last week with the cold after been sat up for 3 weeks over christmas not a bother on start up.

On motor ways she is mean as a caven man on diesel, would get 22km/l and I average 18.5km/l over all.

The fold flat back seats are brilliant for large loads, the only problem is I have become the go too guy when someone needs to move house.

The Highline with aircon leather seats are nice to have and make long drives easy.

But she is long, very long, I would not recommend to someone who is not expert at parallel parking

colm_mcm

Sure the newer ones park themselves.

Hurrache

Cuttlefish wrote: »

Based on past experience with two Renault Scenic cars, which I loved driving, I have steered away from looking at Renault from a reliability view point the electrics let me down

Those two cars look great by the way

I had one for over 10 years, not one electrical issue, actually no issues at all, bar track rods due to the ****ty road I live on.

kingofburt

You could have a look at the last generation Volvo V60.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/152-volvo-v60-d3-150bhp-r-design-nav-94k-mls/26396655

Here is a link, I have no idea what that particular car is like. But I bought one last year from the UK and it is a really nice place to be, haven't had a service yet so can't advise on that as a cost but I can't imagine it will be too crazy. Planning on going to Tom Scully in Clontarf when it is needed.

Tr_18

1percent wrote: »

Have a 09 Passat 2.0 TDI Highline, love it, it is at 340k km and still not a bother on it. Ok 2 glow plugs are gone but she starts first time every time. Even last week with the cold after been sat up for 3 weeks over christmas not a bother on start up.

On motor ways she is mean as a caven man on diesel, would get 22km/l and I average 18.5km/l over all.

The fold flat back seats are brilliant for large loads, the only problem is I have become the go too guy when someone needs to move house.

The Highline with aircon leather seats are nice to have and make long drives easy.

But she is long, very long, I would not recommend to someone who is not expert at parallel parking

I had a 2006 estate passat, same generation as you 2009 i belive. Funnily enough, the estate is 10mm shorter than the saloon. Hows that for a useless bit of trivia

Luckycharm

1874 wrote: »

Estates are great, Its a small community of people, not tight knit, wierdos, welcome
In all honesty, I dont know why there aren't more estates on the road, Im sure they are getting marginally more popular.
I like them.

Yep bought an old A6 estate last year love it, think I will be staying with Estates going forward prefer them to SUVs.

heroics

Luckycharm wrote: »

Yep bought an old A6 estate last year love it, think I will be staying with Estates going forward prefer them to SUVs.

I moved from a long list of saloons to a 5series estate 2 years ago and don’t know how i would do without the estate now.

I also am going to stick with estates for the next car as Much prefer them to SUVs

Everyone in the family borrows it for moving stuff.

User1998

Cuttlefish wrote: »

I was actually thinking of a Skoda until a local dealer put me off saying they have issues after 40/50KM but speaking to a work colleague and he has a Skoda Octavia saloon and is more than happy with it, it being his second Skoda

FYI Skoda octavia is the same car as a Golf, same engine gearbox etc, just different body panels. I definitely wouldn’t be put off one

Shiny

Luckycharm wrote: »

Yep bought an old A6 estate last year love it, think I will be staying with Estates going forward prefer them to SUVs.

Have been considering an A6 (2016+) estate myself. Currently have a Mazda 6 Estate and quite like it but looking for a bit more comfort.

Luckycharm

Shiny wrote: »

Have been considering an A6 (2016+) estate myself. Currently have a Mazda 6 Estate and quite like it but looking for a bit more comfort.

I bought an 2009 A6 with high mileage so it was pretty cheap, love it used to have to borrow parents Tuscon if ever had to carry anything. It also feels a bit nippier and more stable on road than an SUV. It is also very nice inside and very comfortable to drive. Also am a golfer so was actually one of the main reasons I got it was for the clubs. Only issue with mine one was parking sensors not working and too expensive to get fixed so very wary of size when parking.
Think will stick with old A6s going forward as don't think could ever afford a new one.

pullandbang

bazz26 wrote: »

Renault reliability has improved vastly in the last 10+ years. They even gave 5 year warranties on their cars in that time.

I've a 131 Megane Estate automatic with 190k on the clock.
Apart from it's regular (though not often) service @24k and a replacement timing belt (at the required mileage) it's never given me a days trouble. Couldn't fault it except for the back seats not folding flat. And that's only an issue when I'm sleeping in it - it doubles as my "camper" when I'm away fishing :-)

horseofstone

Would you consider a fiat tipo estate. Nice looking car and excellent value. Fiat are well improved in recent years. Personally I like the tipo.

kirving

If you want space, take a look at an E-Class. Easily got for 15k.

Rented a Megane estate a few days after selling mine, and it didn't come anywhere close in terms of refinement, comfort or space.

Cuttlefish

What do you guys think of this car


https://m.carsireland.ie/detail-images.php?ad_id=2655967

Cuttlefish

Or these


https://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/Hyundai/i30-1.6-DSL-TOURER-DELUXE/202008082251923

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2015-kia-ceed-estate-ex-1-6-cdri/25973796?campaign=6

https://www.kielysofmallow.ie/used-cars/Toyota/Auris/1-4-D/202005259532609/

colm_mcm

They would all be good sensible choices. Personally I don’t like that generation Civic interior, and I’d be lukewarm about the styling, but it’s probably the most interesting of that lot.

The Auris is quite well specced for a Toyota. If power isn’t a priority then it’s probably the best all rounder. Parts will be the cheapest of them all.

There’s nothing between the Kia and Hyundai, they’re basically the same thing. Kia probably more desirable than the Hyundai as you won’t get mistaken for a Garda car.

It’s all very marginal tbh, they’re all roughly as good as each other.

Jofspring

Any opinions on the Kia Optima sportswagon? Very nice looking car, decent spec and most would still have a few years of warranty left in them. Seem to be discontinued in Ireland though. Did they not sell well?

In America it seems to be replaced by a Kia K5.

Cuttlefish

Jofspring wrote: »

Any opinions on the Kia Optima sportswagon? Very nice looking car, decent spec and most would still have a few years of warranty left in them. Seem to be discontinued in Ireland though. Did they not sell well?

In America it seems to be replaced by a Kia K5.

Looked at a Kia Optima estate huge car in fact too huge but looked fantastic

Cuttlefish

Looking at the VW Golf Estate