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SV650s restriction help

  • 10-01-2021 12:14pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭


    Hey guys, so about a month ago I purchased and Sv650s from UK and had it delivered over.

    The bike has a restricter on it and came with all the restriction certs etc I'm wondering whats the best way to go about removing the restrictor? It says on the certs the type of restriction is a throttle stop restricted to 35kw.

    Any help appreciated


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    Long screw driver on the left side beside where the idle adjustment is

    There is a small cam shaped metal plate on the side of the throttle body assembly where the throttle cable is

    Unscrew that and use a magnet on an extension to lift it out.

    About a 45 second job


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭E46Dream


    Long screw driver on the left side beside where the idle adjustment is

    There is a small cam shaped metal plate on the side of the throttle body assembly where the throttle cable is

    Unscrew that and use a magnet on an extension to lift it out.

    About a 45 second job

    And its that easy?? Its FI international throttle stop

    Sorry I'm pretty much a noob to stuff like this does the tank etc have to come off?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    E46Dream wrote: »
    And its that easy?? Its FI international throttle stop

    Sorry I'm pretty much a noob to stuff like this does the tank etc have to come off?

    Don't know that brand of restrictor but have a look here as you twist the throttle and you should hear and see the metal piece with the tiny red dot/arrow in this picture. Thats whats stopping the full rotation of the throttle if you have this style of restrictor

    538970.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    Its like a little shoe shape metal _/* and will be an obviously different type of metal to the rest of the components there

    Not the only type of restrictor though but definitely the easiest to remove


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭E46Dream


    Its like a little shoe shape metal _/* and will be an obviously different type of metal to the rest of the components there

    Not the only type of restrictor though but definitely the easiest to remove

    I have the left side fairing off now there's a stamp on the fram saying " 35kw power reduced by alpha technik" is that the same as fi international or whats going on?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    E46Dream wrote: »
    I have the left side fairing off now there's a stamp on the fram saying " 35kw power reduced by alpha technik" is that the same as fi international or whats going on?

    Probably the mechanics who carried out the work or something like that. Can you see that little metal piece?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭E46Dream


    Probably the mechanics who carried out the work or something like that. Can you see that little metal piece?

    I'm not sure if you can see this but this is the only viewpoint I have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    Is it a curvy or pointy sv


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭E46Dream


    Is it a curvy or pointy sv

    SV650s k9 full faired


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    Should be that silver thing top right of your photo, turn the throttle and see if thats what is stopping it. If it is then just long screw driver and a magnet to fish it out. Put the screw back in where it came from for safe keeping and jobs done


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭flashinthepan


    Is there any chance it is electronic
    Like this one
    https://motobroker.co.uk/suzuki-sv650-s-2016-35kw-47bhp-a2-alpha-technik-motorcycle-restriction-kit/
    Says pre 2016 kit was mechanical like Frozenfrozen is describing
    Post 2016 is electronic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭E46Dream


    Should be that silver thing top right of your photo, turn the throttle and see if thats what is stopping it. If it is then just long screw driver and a magnet to fish it out. Put the screw back in where it came from for safe keeping and jobs done

    Sorry for not replying I didn't have time yesterday to look at it. Yeah I'm debating whether to go at it myself or have someone do it for me its pretty hard to see in there or get access to.

    Its definitely a throttle stop the throttle just comes to an abrupt stop 3/4 of the way through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    ya well if you want to do it it's that silver yoke in your picture it will look like this when its out just the little pointy one not the washers Restrictorwashers_zpsd50085e4.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭E46Dream


    ya well if you want to do it it's that silver yoke in your picture it will look like this when its out just the little pointy one not the washers Restrictorwashers_zpsd50085e4.jpg

    Nice one I'll have a proper look tomorrow is there a special screwdriver required for that screw that holds it in?

    In my picture the black block to the left with 2 wires coming out what is that? Thats in my way to see and access through the other gap in the frame which is where I need to get straight access to the throttle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    that could be a few things mine was a k3 and I don't remember that there but it could be the tip sensor or a reg/rec or part of an aftermarket alarm on your bike. You could unbolt whatever that black thing is for a minute to gain access. maybe mark the orientation with tipex first incase it is a tip sensor but I think mine was somewhere else like under the pillion seat.

    you just need a long screw driver, maybe with a bit to give a bit of extra angle on it or one of those bendy extensions.

    other than that just screw it out and catch the metal piece before it flies off down into your belly pan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭E46Dream


    that could be a few things mine was a k3 and I don't remember that there but it could be the tip sensor or a reg/rec or part of an aftermarket alarm on your bike. You could unbolt whatever that black thing is for a minute to gain access. maybe mark the orientation with tipex first incase it is a tip sensor but I think mine was somewhere else like under the pillion seat.

    you just need a long screw driver, maybe with a bit to give a bit of extra angle on it or one of those bendy extensions.

    other than that just screw it out and catch the metal piece before it flies off down into your belly pan

    Yeah cause that first picture you posted is looking in through that gap where that black piece is covering mine I'll show you tomorrow.

    Guess I'll have a go at it anyway seems I have no work for the next 3 weeks cause of covid :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭E46Dream


    Found another pic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    ya will be tight enough I presume it's this one

    FnFLuY2.png

    you might get a better view at it to make sure it looks like the one in the other picture


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,236 ✭✭✭Idleater


    My pointy k5 was factory ECU restricted. I should have a deristricted ecu somewhere, i sold my sv with the restricted ECU.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭E46Dream


    Idleater wrote: »
    My pointy k5 was factory ECU restricted. I should have a deristricted ecu somewhere, i sold my sv with the restricted ECU.

    I'd imagine mine is just throttle stop as I can feel it? The ecu is hardly restricted aswell would it be?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,236 ✭✭✭Idleater


    E46Dream wrote: »
    I'd imagine mine is just throttle stop as I can feel it? The ecu is hardly restricted aswell would it be?

    Yeah, apologies, the page loaded on page 1 where the ECU was questioned. I saw later the conversation moved on. From my recollection, factory restricted (pointy) sv are ECU restricted. That's what i had (to get the insurance discount).
    Washers and throttle stops were the non factory methods (in my time anyway).

    You can easily get to the ECU, under the seat (?) And I think the number on it is easily identified as a restricted one IIRC.

    If it turns out to be, I'll find my full power one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭E46Dream


    Idleater wrote: »
    Yeah, apologies, the page loaded on page 1 where the ECU was questioned. I saw later the conversation moved on. From my recollection, factory restricted (pointy) sv are ECU restricted. That's what i had (to get the insurance discount).
    Washers and throttle stops were the non factory methods (in my time anyway).

    You can easily get to the ECU, under the seat (?) And I think the number on it is easily identified as a restricted one IIRC.

    If it turns out to be, I'll find my full power one.

    No worries, yeah I'll try and get the throttle stop off and see how we go. Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭E46Dream


    Hey guys, I'm going at this today to remove the throttle stop. I found a video on YouTube that shows exactly what I need to do and everything is the same. He says the tank needs to come up and undo the air box to gain better access to it, and also that little black box needs to be loosened off too. If you want to have a look heres the link https://youtu.be/1tEDkxWGoqQ.

    Do you reckon the tank needs to come up or would it be possible to do all this through the frame?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭zubair


    E46Dream wrote: »
    Hey guys, I'm going at this today to remove the throttle stop. I found a video on YouTube that shows exactly what I need to do and everything is the same. He says the tank needs to come up and undo the air box to gain better access to it, and also that little black box needs to be loosened off too. If you want to have a look heres the link https://youtu.be/1tEDkxWGoqQ.

    Do you reckon the tank needs to come up or would it be possible to do all this through the frame?

    Looks like a tank off job to me, but its only 2 bolts to lift it or 3 to remove it completely. The hardest bit will be that black plastic fiddly looking thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    I dont know about access to the black thing but I took mine off with the tank on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭E46Dream


    I have the tank lifted and the airbox lifted up too I can see the throttle stop now just removing that black box now 2 8mm bolts then I should be able to access the screw holding bracket.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭E46Dream


    https://ibb.co/jbLRMnx

    How am I supposed to access that screw?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    how come I had much better access in my picture I was able to get straight on at it but you are looking down at an angle.

    you might need a bendy extension for yours or just a long screw driver still might get at it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭E46Dream


    how come I had much better access in my picture I was able to get straight on at it but you are looking down at an angle.

    you might need a bendy extension for yours or just a long screw driver still might get at it

    No idea this is my access here

    https://ibb.co/wh5sjnM

    There's a little wire with piece of plastic looped into the bracket aswell I assume I can just cut this off its like an anti tamper plastic piece?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭E46Dream


    E46Dream wrote: »
    No idea this is my access here

    https://ibb.co/wh5sjnM

    There's a little wire with piece of plastic looped into the bracket aswell I assume I can just cut this off its like an anti tamper plastic piece?

    Also there's 2 screws in it 1 on top behind the wire and one at bottom that my screwdriver is on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    put a bit of tape on your frame so you don't scratch it and just try force the first couple of turns on the restrictor and it will come out by hand if you can reach maybe.

    yeah that's just to stop it flying away if it came loose


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭E46Dream


    put a bit of tape on your frame so you don't scratch it and just try force the first couple of turns on the restrictor and it will come out by hand if you can reach maybe.

    yeah that's just to stop it flying away if it came loose

    How do I access the top screw its behind the throttle cable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭zubair


    Be careful now while fiddling you don't round those f'ers. Make sure you're using the right tools to get them out in one go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    try undo the bottom one and swivel the restrictor until it loosens the top one enough to spin it by hand. yours is a bastard to remove compared to how mine was.

    if that doesn't work (screw might be too long to come out) you'll just have to remove the throttle cable to get to that top screw. mark where its adjusted on the bolts with a marker first and because you'll be leaving the other cable on it won't be bad to readjust when you put it back on


    mine only had the bottom screw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭zubair


    Is that definitely a screw on top, hard to see by the pic. And is it actually stopping you from taking it out. Time to start thinking about getting the tank off. Will spend less time doing that than fiddling.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭E46Dream


    zubair wrote: »
    Is that definitely a screw on top, hard to see by the pic. And is it actually stopping you from taking it out. Time to start thinking about getting the tank off. Will spend less time doing that than fiddling.

    This is where I'm at now I have removed the bottom screw as far as possible but that's perfectly hitting off the throttle cable too to stop it fully coming out. As far as the top one there's no way I'm getting access without loosening off throttle cable.

    https://ibb.co/CnjR7gN


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭E46Dream


    Update : Got the bracket off after lots of fiddling and loosening throttle cable now to reassemble I'm only going to put the top screw back in that should be enough to hold cables in place.

    https://ibb.co/tC9KdPz


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭zubair


    E46Dream wrote: »
    Update : Got the bracket off after lots of fiddling and loosening throttle cable now to reassemble I'm only going to put the top screw back in that should be enough to hold cables in place.

    https://ibb.co/tC9KdPz

    Whoop, now go out there and do 235km/h.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭E46Dream


    zubair wrote: »
    Whoop, now go out there and do 235km/h.

    Thats the first thing I'm going to do :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    E46Dream wrote: »
    Update : Got the bracket off after lots of fiddling and loosening throttle cable now to reassemble I'm only going to put the top screw back in that should be enough to hold cables in place.

    https://ibb.co/tC9KdPz

    Are those two screws the only thing holding the cable end plate securely to the engine? I'd be inclined to fit both screws, if its only one holding it in place and that loosens you could find yourself with no throttle.
    I'd fit both even if they are a pain, there are two because its subject to a twisting force.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭E46Dream


    CJhaughey wrote: »
    Are those two screws the only thing holding the cable end plate securely to the engine? I'd be inclined to fit both screws, if its only one holding it in place and that loosens you could find yourself with no throttle.
    I'd fit both even if they are a pain, there are two because its subject to a twisting force.

    You could be right I'll throw the other one on aswell


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