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"Security at Leinster House to be urgently reviewed in light of Washington riots"

  • 07-01-2021 3:02pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 eyeforaneye


    Notice in Irish Independent this morning: "Security at Leinster House to be urgently reviewed in light of Washington riots"

    Nonsense. A lot of us in Ireland have issues with our politicians but to be honest none of them(not many anyway) descend to the imbecilic level of Donald Trump who single handedly caused insurrection to break-out on Capital Hill. Fears that groups could target Leinster House in a similar fashion to what played out in Washington overnight are baseless. Keep the focus on Covid and concentrate Government resources on expediting more vaccines into the country. We are lagging way behind Britain and the rest of the world and this will inevitably delay our recovery and increase short term unemployment.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,147 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Give them all iodine tablets. Be grand.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,485 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Shur they’ll hardly come over here !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,944 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    Shur they’ll hardly come over here !!

    There's a certain amount of Irish people who think they're American and seem to mindlessly copy everything they do. Just look at the anti-mask and anti-vax crowd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,072 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Give the security stab vests for when dee wall is poking them with her crutch....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 326 ✭✭dzsfah2xoynme9


    Rothko wrote: »
    There's a certain amount of Irish people who think they're American and seem to mindlessly copy everything they do. Just look at the anti-mask and anti-vax crowd.


    And the BLM crowd...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭Irishphotodesk


    is this a case of civil servants/politicians thinking they are important ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,236 ✭✭✭bigroad


    Rothko wrote: »
    There's a certain amount of Irish people who think they're American and seem to mindlessly copy everything they do. Just look at the anti-mask and anti-vax crowd.
    Yea and most of those wanna be air head Americans thought Trump was our leader.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,869 ✭✭✭golfball37


    I hope that’s a p1ss take?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,834 ✭✭✭CFlat


    They're going to ramp up security by 50% I heard. They're going to have three Gards standing outside the gates instead of two:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Trump supporters are on the way as we speak.....

    They are going to use oversized mega trucks, they plan on turning it into a McDonald's


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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,444 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    They just need to keep an eye on this forum. Any insurrection in Ireland is likely to be co-ordinated by one or two of our regulars....


    :pac:


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Anyone on for storming it for the craic?..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Orange Tiny Terror


    Anyone on for storming it for the craic?..

    I’m in as long as I’m first into the dail bar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,380 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Rothko wrote: »
    There's a certain amount of Irish people who think they're American and seem to mindlessly copy everything they do. Just look at the anti-mask and anti-vax crowd.

    Only thing they aren’t anti is free money...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,169 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    I'm not sure I see the connection between our Dail and American politics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 684 ✭✭✭Dank Janniels


    Didn't a guy ram a cement mixer thru the gates afew years ago? Think a security guard got injured. I imagine the caretakers of all parliament buildings around the world are at the same thing today


  • Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Didn't a guy ram a cement mixer thru the gates afew years ago? Think a security guard got injured. I imagine the caretakers of all parliament buildings around the world are at the same thing today

    story-5705-5705-xlarge.jpg

    McNamara's folly. A once successful property developer who had enough shortly after the economic crash. You can be sure those gates will receive a rattle by March if lockdowns persist.




  • I've seen Gemmas mob (another one that has lost reality) outside the GPO on many occasions heckling and stoking and protesting against all sorts. They are not a small crowd relatively speaking to inflict some damage on Leinster house. There are other hatefilled groups that join them aswell.

    They have used the pandemic to gather more disenfranchised mentally fragile people into their ranks.

    Leinster house are right to bulk up security. I think it's a prudent assessment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 684 ✭✭✭Dank Janniels




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    I've seen Gemmas mob (another one that has lost reality) outside the GPO on many occasions heckling and stoking and protesting against all sorts. They are not a small crowd relatively speaking to inflict some damage on Leinster house. There are other hatefilled groups that join them aswell.

    They have used the pandemic to gather more disenfranchised mentally fragile people into their ranks.

    Leinster house are right to bulk up security. I think it's a prudent assessment.
    They usually have reinforcements down there pretty sharpish if a crowd starts to form tbf.

    Securing any building is fairly difficult without the use of heavy weaponry or a lot of manpower


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭emmalynn19


    twitter.com/Philip_Ryan/status/1347158821588840449?s=20

    /whistles


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭Ray Donovan


    Rothko wrote: »
    There's a certain amount of Irish people who think they're American and seem to mindlessly copy everything they do. Just look at the anti-mask and anti-vax crowd.

    And the BLM movement


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭emmalynn19


    thejournal.ie/sinn-fein-activists-breach-dail-gates-ff-td-demands-election-48937-Nov2010/#comments

    /continues whistling


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭landofthetree



    McNamara's folly. A once successful property developer who had enough shortly after the economic crash. You can be sure those gates will receive a rattle by March if lockdowns persist.

    They will if other countries are lifting restrictions and we are way behind in vaccination.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,380 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    story-5705-5705-xlarge.jpg

    McNamara's folly. A once successful property developer who had enough shortly after the economic crash. You can be sure those gates will receive a rattle by March if lockdowns persist.

    If anybody drives an articulated lorry/truck at or into Leinster House it simply needs to be considered an attack on democracy. A violent attack on the state, and its citizens as well as the people working there....

    The state, democracy, it’s citizens, staff and elected representatives simply can and should repel any such act with force, ie. fûckin shoot them.. it would be prudent if a threat escalated against the state as well as barriers to have a trench dug either end to ensure no unauthorized vehicles could access Kildare st period...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,401 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    If that mob were ISIS how many would be dead now? They have to up security everywhere. An armoured car at the Dail 24/7?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,694 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    Just FYI. There are armed DF personnel in Leinster House. Just don't interupt during dinner time. They wont be happy.

    Or at least bribe them with a few Snickers, might just open the gates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,189 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Dee Wall (Gemmas sidekick) was saying before if they had the numbers they could storm the dail.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,189 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Shur they’ll hardly come over here !!

    We have them already. Gemma ODoherty and her followers

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,694 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    Dee Wall (Gemmas sidekick) was saying before if they had the numbers they could storm the dail.

    Jesus :pac:

    That one would get a serious crack over the head with a baton anyway. Might awaken a few of her brain cells.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    The difference between the Capitol building in Washington and the Dail is that the Gardai are unlikely to take down the barriers and stand idly by as a mob streamed up to the doors......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭theguzman


    I think the more worrying aspect is the fact that the National Library of Ireland and the Archaeological Museum are both located either side of the Dail. I'd spend a week laughing if the Dail was burned but not those two buildings.

    Stir up enough rabble rousing and gather 10-15k people and the Dail could easily be stormed, what Garda is going to fire and kill on the people and start another Civil war? I think when it didn't happen in 2010 it will never happen. There was a legitimate reason for an uprising in 2010 and unless the states finances are brought into check soon we are facing another economic disaster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,380 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    saabsaab wrote: »
    If that mob were ISIS how many would be dead now? They have to up security everywhere. An armoured car at the Dail 24/7?

    They’d have the army there..

    Part of their responsibility...

    To defend the Irish state against armed aggression.
    To give aid to the civil power (ATCP). This means that the Army assists, when requested, the Garda Síochána, who have primary responsibility for law and order in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    Rothko wrote: »
    There's a certain amount of Irish people who think they're American and seem to mindlessly copy everything they do. Just look at the anti-mask and anti-vax crowd.


    or the pro water fluoridation experts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,423 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Just FYI. There are armed DF personnel in Leinster House. Just don't interupt during dinner time. They wont be happy.

    Or at least bribe them with a few Snickers, might just open the gates.

    Depot police , I think.
    Isn't there a video going around of a Garda or soldier grabbing Aengus O Snotface of Sinn Fein by the throat when he was acting the bollix at the gates of Leinster House years ago ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭cajonlardo


    Just FYI. There are armed DF personnel in Leinster House. Just don't interupt during dinner time. They wont be happy.

    Or at least bribe them with a few Snickers, might just open the gates.

    : )
    Been there, done that.
    Face to face with very irate mob. Lads shouting in our faces what they were going to do to our families at home yada yada yawn...

    Soldier behind me says " I know you lot - ban the seal and save the bomb "

    Over zealous Lt gives order " shoot the first man over the gate..." Old sweat sgt produces his notebook and pen " very good sir - write that order down and sign it and I will carry it out"
    Nothing was written or signed and no one executed ( thankfully)

    Yeah, snickers could have swung it either way late in that day but they were marathons back then.




  • Rothko wrote: »
    There's a certain amount of Irish people who think they're American and seem to mindlessly copy everything they do. Just look at the anti-mask and anti-vax crowd.

    Recent events surrounding the shooting of the criminal in Clonee by the guards are a good example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,694 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    cajonlardo wrote: »
    : )
    Been there, done that.
    Face to face with very irate mob. Lads shouting in our faces what they were going to do to our families at home yada yada yawn...

    Soldier behind me says " I know you lot - ban the seal and save the bomb "

    Over zealous Lt gives order " shoot the first man over the gate..." Old sweat sgt produces his notebook and pen " very good sir - write that order down and sign it and I will carry it out"
    Nothing was written or signed and no one executed ( thankfully)

    Yeah, snickers could have swung it either way late in that day but they were marathons back then.

    Red arse!...and Red Cap! :pac:

    Good aul Lt's...still idiots!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Well let's not glorify violence and destruction of property and we'll be grand


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,189 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Seanergy wrote: »
    or the pro water fluoridation experts.

    The wha?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭cajonlardo


    Red arse!...and Red Cap! :pac:

    Good aul Lt's...still idiots!

    I wasnt p.a - I swear!!!
    ( think they were 1st fd down there. We were brought in for the day)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,423 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    cajonlardo wrote: »
    I wasnt p.a - I swear!!!
    ( think they were 1st fd down there. We were brought in for the day)

    Nobody ever admits to being a PA.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Beasty wrote: »
    They just need to keep an eye on this forum. Any insurrection in Ireland is likely to be co-ordinated by one or two of our regulars....


    :pac:

    Keep them busy in feedback ,

    They will forget about it in no time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Rothko wrote: »
    There's a certain amount of Irish people who think they're American and seem to mindlessly copy everything they do. Just look at the anti-mask and anti-vax crowd.

    You’re looking in the wrong direction. It’s the identity politics, BLM, looney left who think they’re American.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    You’re looking in the wrong direction. It’s the identity politics, BLM, looney left who think they’re American.

    It's both directions and it's sick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,067 ✭✭✭Gunmonkey


    I’m in as long as I’m first into the dail bar

    Ah but €9 wont buy ya much of a meal there!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,944 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    You’re looking in the wrong direction. It’s the identity politics, BLM, looney left who think they’re American.

    It's both.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,045 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Dee Wall (Gemmas sidekick) was saying before if they had the numbers they could storm the dail.

    The problem for them is they don't have the numbers.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    I once watched the Oireachtas staff play a 5-a-side tournament against the Prison Officers out at Sportslink near the airport....
    Dee and Gemma would be beaten black and blue if they tried to get into Government Buildings! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,401 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    I once watched the Oireachtas staff play a 5-a-side tournament against the Prison Officers out at Sportslink near the airport....
    Dee and Gemma would be beaten black and blue if they tried to get into Government Buildings! :D


    Being good at hurling doesn't mean you are good at chucking people out.


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