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Decathlon impressions

  • 27-12-2020 10:12pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭


    I thought declaton would be like halfords in where the mechanics would struggle putting air into a tyre.

    Turns out I was wrong. The mechanic I spoke to today was a manager in a city centre shop and a fully qualified mechanic with tons of experience. Flew threw my sons bmx that I tried to set up and made a balls off. Fixed it on the spot in a few minutes.

    He was telling me that van rysels are as good as anything yet cheaper cause they don't have the big name. Some serious bikes over there and I might get the next one there.

    Anyone have a carbon van rysel, what are they like?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,429 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    byrnem31 wrote: »
    I thought declaton would be like halfords in where the mechanics would struggle putting air into a tyre.

    Turns out I was wrong. The mechanic I spoke to today was a manager in a city centre shop and a fully qualified mechanic with tons of experience. Flew threw my sons bmx that I tried to set up and made a balls off. Fixed it on the spot in a few minutes.

    He was telling me that van rysels are as good as anything yet cheaper cause they don't have the big name. Some serious bikes over there and I might get the next one there.

    Anyone have a carbon van rysel, what are they like?

    Well he is hardly going to tell you that the bikes are crap in the shop he works in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,313 ✭✭✭07Lapierre




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,041 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    byrnem31 wrote: »
    ...He was telling me that van rysels are as good as anything yet cheaper cause they don't have the big name...
    In fairness though, it's hardly a neutral opinion. I know nothing about them but it might be like going into your local Dacia dealer and hearing a salesman say that Dacia are as good as anything but cheaper because they don't have a big name.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭byrnem31


    In fairness though, it's hardly a neutral opinion. I know nothing about them but it might be like going into your local Dacia dealer and hearing a salesman say that Dacia are as good as anything but cheaper because they don't have a big name.

    That's why I was asking what were people's opinions on them that owned one. Dacias are awful now in fairness. The van rysels look like nice bikes. But how do they ride, what are they like in general etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,300 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    I live in France so have been going to Decathlon for years. Their bikes are great value, in my mind they have replaced Canyon who used to provide the best specs / best value for money (but have now increased prices closer to main brands). They are a bit slow in advancing new technologies though (e.g. almost no road disc braked bikes). I wouldn't say you will find ex LBS managers in every store though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭byrnem31


    I live in France so have been going to Decathlon for years. Their bikes are great value, in my mind they have replaced Canyon who used to provide the best specs / best value for money (but have now increased prices closer to main brands). They are a bit slow in advancing new technologies though (e.g. almost no road disc braked bikes). I wouldn't say you will find ex LBS managers in every store though.


    Thanks for that. Yeah, disc brakes are a must for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭Tony04


    Well obviously components wise their bikes are relative bargains.
    Its not unheard of for people to buy a bike from decathlon for the components and to sell the frame, but I cant see why their frames would be no worse.
    Firstly theyre raced by junior teams on the continent, if theyre stiff enough and good enough for racing for them theyre good enough for any buyer.
    Secondly the majority of carbon bikes are pretty much built to the same standard, as the majority of carbon bikes are built in asia by a handful of unheard if manufacturers. How good a bike is depends on the brands contract with the manufacturer which specifies the quality control hence cannondale is manufactured in the same factories as other brand but has notoriously
    sh*te bottom brackets. As with all bikes manufactured in asia the majority will be perfectly fine but with the odd lemon as the qc process for bikes isnt exactly the same as the aerospace industry, which should be replaced under warranty. Personally for me the selling point on a certain brand is the warranty and other customers experience of the warranty as thats the only difference between the majority of brands.
    My only gripe with van rysel would be that they could benefit from a bit more R&D, frames could be a bit nicer and could be a little more aero etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭Tony04


    And your mechanic in decathlon is right other brands youre paying more for nothing but the brand. Take this review of these colnagos cut up and youll see that the quality is not what youd expect of such a revered brand, i mean the quality isnt awful but isnt 100%.

    But without a doubt there is a brand snobbery in cycling that for the most part is total bs and helps makes the sport the cost it is.
    If you want a boutique bike buy a Time as they seem to be the only brand that acctually manufacturers to a higher standard than anyone else. If you want to see this for yourself look at the cutups luescher does.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭dom_1000


    I bought the new Van rysel gravel bike in October. Its an all carbon frame for 2k.

    Its very well put together and the components are fantastic.

    my only complaint is that they had only three frame sizes and so the one I got might be a little big for me. but that can be sorted out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 190 ✭✭Jonesy101


    Ive used decathlon cycling clothing, tents, ski gear, lights, wet suits and and golf clubs and everything is great quality. Their gear comes in varying degrees of quality from low to their high end. Van Rysel is their high end so im sure it is v good quality stuff too. Their clothing looks great as well. Listening to a Decathlon bike mechanic is the same as listening to a local bike shop mechanic you can choose to trust them or not.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭byrnem31


    dom_1000 wrote: »
    I bought the new Van rysel gravel bike in October. Its an all carbon frame for 2k.

    Its very well put together and the components are fantastic.

    my only complaint is that they had only three frame sizes and so the one I got might be a little big for me. but that can be sorted out.

    My defy is slightly too big for me, m/l, cause I can't get down as much with a disc gone in my back. I moved the seat forward to the limit and flipped the stem so it's more upright, fits perfect now. Id say I'd be cramped on a medium in anyway at 5,11.

    You could try that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    byrnem31 wrote: »
    I thought declaton would be like halfords in where the mechanics would struggle putting air into a tyre.

    Halfords is a car shop. Bikes are just as important as air fresheners to them.


    Decathlon are a long time doing sports and doing it well. Apples and oranges.


  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Does anyone know where Decathlon ship from for online orders?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,185 ✭✭✭nilhg


    Does anyone know where Decathlon ship from for online orders?

    Some locally from their warehouse but quite a significant amount from France.

    I had an order made in November held up for almost a month before Christmas, quite a lot of the delay seemed to occur once the package had reached An Post and I had a tracking number (notified by An Post via SMS), but today I got an email from Decathlon apologising for the delay and giving me a 30% off my next online order discount code, there doesn't seem to be any spending limit attached either.

    That would seem to me to be a decent way to deal with a situation which was somewhat out of their control.


  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cheers for that nilhg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,429 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Does anyone know where Decathlon ship from for online orders?

    Locally if they have stock but quite alot of the time they are fulfilled from Germany and especially France.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    ED E wrote: »
    Halfords is a car shop. Bikes are just as important as air fresheners to them.


    Decathlon are a long time doing sports and doing it well. Apples and oranges.

    A lot of of the guys I've dealt with in Halfords have nothing to do with the car side and are knowledgeable about bikes and repairs. I started using them for repairs as their book in and book collection was vastly more reliable and convenient than the all the LBS I've used. Last time I got rear hub replaced.

    Using the LBS always felt like a lottery when they would take the bike in and when you would get it back, and even if they would do what was asked. Why they think getting customers to ring "is it done yet" baffles me. Puts me off buying a bike from them.

    That's my 2 cents at least.

    Haven't tried decathlon yet but hope to do it soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭wersal gummage


    Does anyone know where Decathlon ship from for online orders?

    They have details on their website about this, not sure where or how to find it but I only read it the other day. From recollection, everything is shipped from France unless you contact the Dublin store by phone or WhatsApp and they will then take payment and dispatch directly to you if in stock. Without any experience of this, I'd recommend it as the orders from France are not great and presumably extra delays at the moment.

    I also ordered in November like other person mentioned, and was waiting around 3 / 3.5 weeks, just a few small bits.

    I ordered again a few weeks ago (bigger items) and still waiting.

    They give you no tracking information other than dispatched, then when it arrives in Ireland if its smaller stuff it'll be an post and you'll get tracking then, or if its a larger item apparently they'll ring you to arrange delivery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Parcel arrived this evening from Decathlon by An Post. Ordered on 27 Dec and dispatched 29.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,903 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Does anyone know where Decathlon ship from for online orders?

    France and the UK. But contact the Irish store via Instagram and they’ll sort let you order and ship from the store




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭Gorteen


    I ordered some sports equipment a month ago and delivery took longer than I anticipated. I didn't complain. I've now got an email from Decathlon apologising and offering 30% discount on my next order. I like this approach to customer care


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,190 ✭✭✭cletus


    Gorteen wrote: »
    I ordered some sports equipment a month ago and delivery took longer than I anticipated. I didn't complain. I've now got an email from Decathlon apologising and offering 30% discount on my next order. I like this approach to customer care

    I got that yesterday too. Went about using it, system said voucher was invalid. A series of emails back and forth between yesterday and today, and eventually they had to credit my account with the amount I would have saved with the voucher. I placed my order, and 10 minutes later got an email saying that one of the items I was buying had just gone out of stock before I purchased, so they were giving me a refund


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭harringtonp


    nilhg wrote: »
    Some locally from their warehouse but quite a significant amount from France.

    I had an order made in November held up for almost a month before Christmas, quite a lot of the delay seemed to occur once the package had reached An Post and I had a tracking number (notified by An Post via SMS), but today I got an email from Decathlon apologising for the delay and giving me a 30% off my next online order discount code, there doesn't seem to be any spending limit attached either.

    That would seem to me to be a decent way to deal with a situation which was somewhat out of their control.

    Pretty much the exact same happened me and I was put through the wars chasing the order. Ordered well before the end of November, no sign of it, several emails to Decathlon who came back with standard response of xmas delays, eventually it came into the An Post tracking system but was shown in a depot in Dublin for a couple of weeks without movement, rang An Post with tracking and they told me it was an incomplete address and sent back but they didn't update that in the An Post status, got on to Decathlon again and whatever they did caused it to arrive the next day just in time for xmas.

    Anyway I got the 30% voucher too. Am in the market for a disc brake, decent tire clearance bike but they their range is limited and there are no discs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭harringtonp


    If they had a disc brake equivalent of

    https://www.decathlon.ie/ie_en/ultra-rcr-cf-dura-ace-road-bike-black-en-s300815.html

    it would be great Wheels alone retail for almost 1000 euro

    Actually as an aside I was wondering why bikes with tubeless tires sometimes come with tube and saw this under the above bike description

    "Yksion Pro UST Front and rear tread: Single-density 11 Storm rubber UST Tubeless Ready. The tyres are installed with inner tubes as required by law. Dimension"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭harringtonp


    Actually I don't trust there website. Why is

    https://www.decathlon.ie/ie_en/ultra-rcr-cf-carbon-road-bike-dura-ace-di2-en-s326942.html

    1800 euro more expensive (di2...) and heavier


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭Tony04



    Apparently theyre getting disc specced bikes this year...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭Tony04


    Actually I don't trust there website. Why is

    https://www.decathlon.ie/ie_en/ultra-rcr-cf-carbon-road-bike-dura-ace-di2-en-s326942.html

    1800 euro more expensive (di2...) and heavier

    It has an integrated deda carbon bar so price makes sense although you would be better getting the cheaper model and using a farsports integrated bar imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,196 ✭✭✭PaulieC


    oh temptation. That 30% discount has seemingly no upper limit. I just applied mine to a 2k bike which brought the price down to 1400. What am I supposed to do now ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,942 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    What 30% discount?? :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,190 ✭✭✭cletus


    If you made a purchase last November/December, most of them were delayed, so Decathlon sent out a 30% discount code to those people, to be used before the end of January. I used mine already, but not for anything as big as a bike. January spending won't allow that, unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,942 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Got it. Didn't buy anything unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭Gorteen


    Do Decathlon orders get sent from Ireland or will the discount just end up being spent on VAT / import duties?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,903 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Gorteen wrote: »
    Do Decathlon orders get sent from Ireland or will the discount just end up being spent on VAT / import duties?

    It doesn’t matter as they are registered for VAT in Ireland. So these prices are included.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    if anyone has a 30% code they won't be using i'd be delighted to have it, going to pull the trigger on the €3200 van rysel come pay day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭harringtonp


    PaulieC wrote: »
    oh temptation. That 30% discount has seemingly no upper limit. I just applied mine to a 2k bike which brought the price down to 1400. What am I supposed to do now ?

    Did the website actually accept your code at the time of checkout ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,196 ✭✭✭PaulieC


    Did the website actually accept your code at the time of checkout ?

    I didn't checkout but it accepted the code and updated the price. I haven't figured out how to get a new bike past the missus 😂


  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    PaulieC wrote: »
    I didn't checkout but it accepted the code and updated the price. I haven't figured out how to get a new bike past the missus ��

    I'll PM you my address you can stash it at mine ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,937 ✭✭✭SmartinMartin


    I got a 30% discount code from them last week after complaining of a late delivery. Dunno what to use it for, but I'd save myself €220 on the couple of SUPs and accessories I've been wanting. Better than a kick in the proverbial hole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭Melanchthon


    Not made any big purchases but seems to me they are using the model of good value higher priced items and more expensive smaller cheaper items people might not realize are over priced, I know I didn't until I bought the same stuff from a lbs for cheaper (talking pads cables etc)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 FingerChips


    Wanted to upgrade from my Cube attain disc to a lighter bike with a better groupset. I had my eyes on the Canyon Endurance Al 7.0 and booked it. This was in July-August last year, delivery in October. Thought I'll just wait it out. Canyon pushed delivery to 2021. Cancelled my booking and ordered the Van Rysel EDR AF with full ultegra for 1.2K. Decathlon delivered the bike in 5 days. Extremely happy with the bike.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,196 ✭✭✭PaulieC


    I got a 30% discount code from them last week after complaining of a late delivery. Dunno what to use it for, but I'd save myself €220 on the couple of SUPs and accessories I've been wanting. Better than a kick in the proverbial hole.

    the SUPs are pretty good value already for what are good products. 30% off makes them great value.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,300 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    In previous years in France, they reduce these models (which can already be great value) in sales when they launch new ones. A bit like some people seem to be getting a 30% discount code to work on bikes which already seem cheap.

    I once saw a bike with Ultegra 8000, Fizik saddle, Mavic Cosmic wheels (the alu ones - B’Twin Ultra 920 AF) for 799€. In store so may have been ex-display. It was one of those times where I had no need for the bike and still walked around the shop for 20 minutes deciding whether or not I should buy it. Their stock seems as low as anywhere this year so I wouldn't be expecting that for a while again.

    You do see frames popping up for sale from people who buy the bikes just for the components and they don't tend to sell easily or quickly though. I'd only do that if I was going to use the frame myself and stick Shimano 105 on it.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,895 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    I got a 30% discount code from them last week after complaining of a late delivery.
    did they place any restrictions on its use? e.g. a max value on the purchase?
    would be gas to get a grand off a top of the range bike because of a late delivery...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,190 ✭✭✭cletus


    did they place any restrictions on its use? e.g. a max value on the purchase?
    would be gas to get a grand off a top of the range bike because of a late delivery...

    There was no restrictions in the email, but like I said, I only used mine to buy a few bits I was ordering anyway, a dry bag, neoprene gloves etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,937 ✭✭✭SmartinMartin


    did they place any restrictions on its use? e.g. a max value on the purchase?
    would be gas to get a grand off a top of the range bike because of a late delivery...

    No restrictions, did a dry run there and yes indeed, 30% off a €760 bill consisting of 2 large and 2 smaller items.
    That would mean a grand off a €3200 bike, as someone else mentioned earlier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭Gorteen


    Does anyone else find the website a pain in the a**e??? It keeps freezing and I don't know if its the site or my laptop!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭harringtonp


    Gorteen wrote: »
    Does anyone else find the website a pain in the a**e??? It keeps freezing and I don't know if its the site or my laptop!

    Site is dire but I think they recognise this. Part of the problem with my order was their postcode system brought up the wrong town and you couldn't override it. I made sure all the correct bits were in the address as well but who know what the order handling system did with the entered data


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Gorteen wrote: »
    Does anyone else find the website a pain in the a**e??? It keeps freezing and I don't know if its the site or my laptop!


    Thank you. I actually emailed them two weeks ago about that and their customer support team got back to me and said the problem wasn't at their end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭Gorteen


    cletus wrote: »
    If you made a purchase last November/December, most of them were delayed, so Decathlon sent out a 30% discount code to those people, to be used before the end of January. I used mine already, but not for anything as big as a bike. January spending won't allow that, unfortunately.

    Does anyone want my 30% discount code? I don't have a use for it and it would be a shame to waste it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,903 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Gorteen wrote: »
    Does anyone want my 30% discount code? I don't have a use for it and it would be a shame to waste it.

    Me please.


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