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The Beatles: Get Back

  • 24-12-2020 8:48pm
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    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 17,381 Mod ✭✭✭✭ The Black Oil


    Peter Jackson delving into the archives once more.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,595 ✭✭✭✭ Beechwoodspark


    Saw the “sneak peek”. Not overly impressed. Will catch it whenever it is on tv


  • Registered Users Posts: 56,306 ✭✭✭✭ Agent Coulson


    So do Disney now own the rights to The Beatles catalogue?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,810 ✭✭✭ cml387


    A bit of backstory here.

    Hours and hours of footage were shot in 1969 as part of what The Beatles planned as a "back to basics" music album of which the film was going to be part.

    What emerged eventually was a heavily censored (by the fab four) film and the album "Let It Be" was a mish mash cobbled together by Lennon and Phil Spector.

    For a Beatles fan what makes this Jackson version special is the restoration of the film and the novelty of seeing The Beatles in sparkling HD as if recorded yesterday.

    I doubt whether it will much appeal to a casual viewer but the trailer did knock me back a bit, I shall be interested to see the final version.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭ Mrs Gilhooley


    I adored Eight Days a Week and can't imagine anything better, but I'd watch Beatles docs all day long so will pick it up at some stage


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,915 ✭✭✭ emo72


    Growing up in the 70s we were told that those recordings were a fractious affair. Lots of bad blood between the fab 4. That snippet tells a different story. It looks like they had great fun. The quality of the restoration is amazing. I can't wait to see the movie.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,507 ✭✭✭ El Gato De Negocios


    I adored Eight Days a Week and can't imagine anything better, but I'd watch Beatles docs all day long so will pick it up at some stage

    Same, more excited to see this than anything else coming down the tracks. Its pretty heartbreaking when you think that so little footage of the band exists considering they are arguably the greatest band of all time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 56,306 ✭✭✭✭ Agent Coulson


    Now a 3 episode series which drops one episode a day starting November 25th, 26th & 27th on Disney+.




  • Registered Users Posts: 56,306 ✭✭✭✭ Agent Coulson




  • Registered Users Posts: 10,147 ✭✭✭✭ The Nal


    This is so good. Every second of it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,110 ✭✭✭ TheIrishGrover


    Looking forward to checking this out. The footage restoration looks fantastic.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭ trashcan


    Ditto to all of that. I’m a sucker for most music documentaries, but especially the Beatles. Eight Days a Week was great, this should be too. I found a low quality copy of the original on YouTube a few years ago and it wasn’t great to be honest, so hopefully this will be an improvement.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭ Seathrun66


    Watched the first half of the first part earlier today. Fascinating stuff but hard to see it appealing to non-fans in the way that previous material on the band has. Seven hours of studio interplay and forty mins of a rooftop gig. Catnip for me though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭ Arghus


    I'm loving it too, but I'd have a hard time selling it to someone who didn't love them - it is just guys working on music. I'd understand how eight hours of it mightn't do it for people.

    So cool to see them working through the songs. Everyone looks so cool.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,237 ✭✭✭ phonypony


    Pretty decent so far, but I find the constant shoehorning of b-roll where it's not necessary to be really annoying. It's one thing (and often a necessary evil) to cut to a shot from a totally different song, different tempos, even when it's painfully obvious, I think it's generally accepted in a film like this. But cutting to a half second shot of Linda for example, 20 feet away from the others in the conversation, mouthing a different word to what's on the audio, it's like a bad home movie in places. There are even times where it's clear it's Paul saying something on the audio and they've cut in a shot of John mouthing a similar word.

    I thought this production would be above all that and let the footage they do have and the matching audio speak for themselves.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,507 ✭✭✭ El Gato De Negocios


    Their creativity was and is staggering. Literally just sitting there with a tune in their head, playing it, mmmm mmmm mmmming the sound of the words they think fit, then fitting the words around it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,507 ✭✭✭ El Gato De Negocios


    You'd have to wonder what effect Epsteins death had on them as a group. The reverence they had for him, referring to him as Mr Epstein even though he was just a couple of years older than them. He could well have been the glue that was holding them together, they even said as such in part 1. A case of what might have beens.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,147 ✭✭✭✭ The Nal


    Well they'd no issue taking the piss either. Lennon used to sing "Baby You're a Rich Fag Jew" when they were recording Baby Youre a Rich Man.

    Although he was still alive then.

    Theres a fantastic bit, still to come, when Ringo brings in Octopuses Garden and George helps him with it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,344 ✭✭✭✭ loyatemu


    more trivia - I Me Mine was the last song they ever recorded, in early 1970 (without Lennon) - they only went back to record it because that clip was featured in the original Let It Be movie and they wanted the song on the "soundtrack" album.



  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭ Toeuptony


    Yep, this interview with Peter Jackson goes into a bit more detail on what archives they had to work with and it also explains the gap between audio and video footage

    https://www.avclub.com/peter-jackson-on-asking-the-beatles-the-tough-questions-1848104306



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,507 ✭✭✭ El Gato De Negocios


    Just finished up with part two, a compelling watch. Lennon was very obviously out of it in parts and you'd have to have a degree of sympathy for Paul, George and John had checked out of the band but he was desperately trying to cling to the past.

    Just on Yoko. Its oft been reported that she wasn't to blame for the break up but fcuk me pink, she is stuck to Lennon like a barnacle. He obviously wanted it that way but there is no way in hell that she wasn't someway responsible for the wedge, even if it was indirectly. Can you imagine what it would be like, being there with the closest people in your life for more than a decade, trying to create something but having an omnipresent interlopper watching every single thing and interjecting in conversations that are of no concern to them.

    Won't get to watch part 3 til Sunday but I'm dying to see it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,334 ✭✭✭ Royale with Cheese


    Just watched episode 1 and the start of episode 2. I absolutely love the Beatles so I'm enjoying it but I can't help but feel I'm in a bit of a niche as far as viewers in 2021 go. My wife was falling asleep towards the end of episode 1. Could this really not have been edited down to a 2 - 2.5 hour film for the casual viewer?



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 59,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Wibbs


    Lindsey-Hogg comes across as a posh twat

    So it wasn't just me who thought that then? 😁

    Yeah, total eejit. Though he was at the start of the whole "music video" thing and had directed a few of the Beatles early ones and the Stones too, so was horribly well connected. It was that more than talent IMHO. They could have approached some of the new wave French directors(like the Stones did) or some of the top flight British or American guys too. Though maybe Hoggs slightly amateur faffing about made for a more gritty end project which looks more fly on the wall "modern". He was a young turk just like them and I suspect his posh background had some part to play in it too. Britain was still very much a class ridden society and him being a minor aristo was likely an automatic "respect" thing with the Beatles. George Martin had that effect on them early on and notice how they referred to their late manager as "Mr Epstein". It's easy to forget that though they were hipper than a hip thing they were a British generation born in the war and many of the old scutter was still very much in play. Lennon of course milked that the other way, with his "working class hero" schtick, even though he was by far the most middle class of the lot of them. Not too many working class English kids in the 1950's were swanning off to art school.

    Ringo was also dead set against Tripoli too. Which is a kind of a pity as the Beatles playing on that Roman stage would have been amazeballs(Pink Floyd nicked the Roman stage thing for themselves later). Though less so for the songs they were working on there. Abbey Road would have been the better fit IMHO. Then again with Hogg directing and the tech of the time it could well have been a washout. Now if they had David Lean shooting and George Martin producing the soundtrack...

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  • Registered Users Posts: 843 ✭✭✭ Simon201


    Easy to say now I suppose, and I'm only on the first episode but I love all the Beatles before and after the split but I just felt I wanted to hear Lennon and McCartney just occasionally give a bit of praise to George for the ideas of his early versions of songs. I've always been of the opinion that the best of George's songs easily equal the best of Lennon and McCartneys songs. It's just that they were more plentiful over the years they were together. And yes, as some have said how the hell did they pretty much disregard George doing his early version of All Things Must Pass!



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