Front garden

Cork Trucker

I plan to put a steel shed in my front garden as I have no access to the rear without going in through the house.

The shed height is 7ft high, 4 metres in length and 3 metres in width. I asked the county council and they said no problem once it’s not towering over other properties, it won’t be, I just don’t want to run into problems before i start the process

Anyone with knowledge in this area I’d be interested in hearing from you

looksee

Get that in writing!

Cork Trucker

I’m calling in to them tomorrow to try and get same

BryanF

For the exempted development act:

No such structure (Shed) shall be constructed, erected or placed forward of the front wall of a house.

Cork Trucker

BryanF wrote: »

For the expected development act:

No such structure (Shed) shall be constructed, erected or placed forward of the front wall of a house.

So once it’s inside the gate basically?

BryanF

No front wall of the house.

Cork Trucker

BryanF wrote: »

No front wall of the house.

Ah jasus

iwillhtfu

Do you get on with your neighbours? Have you asked them what they think as it will most likely be them that calls the council.

Hagimalone

Where did you tell the council you were putting it?

elperello

CT, just how many houses have you seen with steel sheds in the front garden?

Cork Trucker

iwillhtfu wrote: »

Do you get on with your neighbours? Have you asked them what they think as it will most likely be them that calls the council.

I haven’t moved in yet, signing the contracts tomorrow and getting the keys then

Cork Trucker

Hagimalone wrote: »

Where did you tell the council you were putting it?

I showed them where last week when at the house, they had 2 officials there.

Cork Trucker

elperello wrote: »

CT, just how many houses have you seen with steel sheds in the front garden?

A few over the years, maybe one or two dozen in 20 years

ActingDanClark

Hagimalone wrote: »

Where did you tell the council you were putting it?

Aras ui dalaigh

Gumbo

Cork Trucker wrote: »

I plan to put a steel shed in my front garden as I have no access to the rear without going in through the house.

The shed height is 7ft high, 4 metres in length and 3 metres in width. I asked the county council and they said no problem once it’s not towering over other properties, it won’t be, I just don’t want to run into problems before i start the process

Anyone with knowledge in this area I’d be interested in hearing from you

Not exempt from planning.
Most likely will not get planning either.

Gumbo

Cork Trucker wrote: »

I showed them where last week when at the house, they had 2 officials there.

Why were 2 planning officials at the property?

Cork Trucker

Gumbo wrote: »

Why were 2 planning officials at the property?

They weren’t planning officials, they were from a different department but I questioned them on it.

iwillhtfu

Cork Trucker wrote: »

I haven’t moved in yet, signing the contracts tomorrow and getting the keys then

I don't fancy your chances much so, what you plan on putting in must be taking up the whole front garden. I also can't see how any council official would say it would be ok as it clearly would be an obvious change/eyesore to the front of the house.

Cork Trucker

iwillhtfu wrote: »

I don't fancy your chances much so, what you plan on putting in must be taking up the whole front garden. I also can't see how any council official would say it would be ok as it clearly would be an obvious change/eyesore to the front of the house.

It’s quite a big garden, I’m planning to put in hedging which would outgrow it in height anyway, therefore camouflage it. It’s to store bikes.

Gumbo

Cork Trucker wrote: »

They weren’t planning officials, they were from a different department but I questioned them on it.

They were misguided to offer any opinion on planning to you to be honest.
The planning department will direct you to the exemptions. The exemptions will show you require planning for what you propose.

iwillhtfu

Cork Trucker wrote: »

It’s quite a big garden, I’m planning to put in hedging which would outgrow it in height anyway, therefore camouflage it. It’s to store bikes.

Still a non runner I'm afraid. I assume its a terraced house and garden only the width of the house so its unique in having a large garden.

A pain though if you have a number of bikes, perhaps a lower height storage area might work but would likely still need planning.

muffler

See Class 3 of Schedule 2 here which clearly sets out the conditions that apply for a shed to be classed as exempt development. The relevant part in this scenario states ... No such structure shall be constructed, erected or placed forward of the front wall of a house

You may have seen (like I have) sheds in other people's front gardens but how many have you seen that have planning permission? None of them are exempt and without knowing any specific details I would doubt very much if you would be successful with a planning application.

Not what you want to hear but that's just my personal opinion and Im always a believer in "never say never"

Cork Trucker

iwillhtfu wrote: »

Still a non runner I'm afraid. I assume its a terraced house and garden only the width of the house so its unique in having a large garden.

A pain though if you have a number of bikes, perhaps a lower height storage area might work but would likely still need planning.

It’s a semi D. Yeah I’ve a few bikes. I’ll run it by the council planning dept tomorrow. Hopefully the neighbours aren’t difficult

iwillhtfu

Cork Trucker wrote: »

It’s a semi D. Yeah I’ve a few bikes. I’ll run it by the council planning dept tomorrow. Hopefully the neighbours aren’t difficult

Does it not have a side entrance so? One of those tiny space ideas that enclose the side walkway would work well id have thought

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/ff0d8d_016d44d7e3d34ee387a00975f6011a34~mv2.jpeg/v1/fill/w_538,h_950,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/side_entrance_cover_3%20(1).webp

Cork Trucker

iwillhtfu wrote: »

Does it not have a side entrance so? One of those tiny space ideas that enclose the side walkway would work well id have thought

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/ff0d8d_016d44d7e3d34ee387a00975f6011a34~mv2.jpeg/v1/fill/w_538,h_950,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/side_entrance_cover_3%20(1).webp

It did not the previous owner built an extension taking away the side entrance. Having trouble opening that link at the moment

Gumbo

Cork Trucker wrote: »

It’s a semi D. Yeah I’ve a few bikes. I’ll run it by the council planning dept tomorrow. Hopefully the neighbours aren’t difficult

What did the Council say?

Cork Trucker

Gumbo wrote: »

What did the Council say?

They have no issue with it

Gumbo

Cork Trucker wrote: »

They have no issue with it

LOL

Either your explaining it wrong to us then or your telling the council something different because what you have highlighted in your previous posts certainly is not exempted development.

muffler

Have to agree with Gumbo. There is something amiss here or else its trolling plain and simple.

Tpcl20

Why do you need a steel shed for storing bikes? This box would be the job and it's moveable so I doubt you have to get planning permission for it:
https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Keter-Store-It-Out-Max-Outdoor-Plastic-Garden-Storage-Shed-Beige-and-Brown/402355941480?hash=item5dae487068:g:BtUAAOSwUUhfL7Xw

Cork Trucker

Gumbo wrote: »

LOL

Either your explaining it wrong to us then or your telling the council something different because what you have highlighted in your previous posts certainly is not exempted development.

They asked me for measurements I have a revised size of 3x3m and 2m high.

3 separate departments I’ve been to now

Cork Trucker

muffler wrote: »

Have to agree with Gumbo. There is something amiss here or else its trolling plain and simple.

Trolling? Come to Cork I’ll show you my house

Gumbo

Cork Trucker wrote: »

They asked me for measurements I have a revised size of 3x3m and 2m high.

3 separate departments I’ve been to now

Planning still required. You cannot have any structure in the front garden above 1.2m.

They really must have misunderstood your query. I can’t see any other reasoning.

If you want to Pm me your address or site plan as there may be some orientation if its a one off build your typical front may be your rear in planning terms?

muffler

Cork Trucker wrote: »

They asked me for measurements I have a revised size of 3x3m and 2m high.

Doesnt matter what size you have you will need permission if its more than 1.2m high.

Cork Trucker wrote: »

3 separate departments I’ve been to now

Thats a laugh really ... I mean that in a nice way. There is only ONE dept. you need to discuss this issue with and thats the Planning Dept.

Cork Trucker wrote: »

Trolling? Come to Cork I’ll show you my house

Nah, you're grand. I've been in this business for longer than I care to remember and I think I know by now what requires planning permission and what doesnt.


We will obviously agree to disagree on the assertion that you were told that you didnt need PP but I'll tell you what ... get it in writing from your local Council and post it up here with the personal details removed of course.

A.W 0110

Just seeing this thread. I live in Dublin, in a terraced house which has quite a long driveway. I too want to put a shed in the front garden to store a motorcycle. I have no access to the rear garden without going through the house. I'm looking at maybe 6 foot wide by 9 foot long and 7 foot high. Going around the DunLaoghaire area, there are loads of houses with sheds in the front garden and I can assume, all installed without planning permission. I'm wondering, did you ever go ahead with this and were there any issues with the council? I was planing on fitting the shed, won't look ideal but if I surround it with bushes or some other plants amd wheelie bin storage unit to cover it, there shouldn't be an issue. Hopefully

mulbot

Just build it, lots of examples of these in older estates. Deal with it if it becomes an issue,..

muffler

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122602890#Comment_122602890

Terrible advice.

mulbot

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122603126#Comment_122603126

It's great advice

Rows Grower

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122602806#Comment_122602806

Have you considered installing a bike shelter?

gooseman12

There was a case involving Cork City Council and a resident installing a bike storage shed in their front garden not so long back. Both Council and Bord Pleanala rejected planning. General consensus seems to be that the best bet in these cases was something along the lines of a horsebox or enclosed trailer for storage as you do not need planning or any permission to park these in front of your house.

https://irishcycle.com/2023/09/28/cork-city-council-latest-planning-authority-to-reject-bicycle-shed-in-front-driveway/

https://irishcycle.com/2024/07/21/an-bord-pleanala-writes-16-page-report-rejecting-bicycle-shed-but-owner-now-might-replace-it-with-trailer-which-isnt-covered-by-planning-laws/

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122603352#Comment_122603352

In cork. A 2m high bike shelter, in the front garden of a semi D with a side extension blocking access to the rear.

hmmm…..

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/115671014#Comment_115671014

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/115671937#Comment_115671937

The parallels are staggering. What are the chances