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Front garden

  • 20-12-2020 01:57PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭


    I plan to put a steel shed in my front garden as I have no access to the rear without going in through the house.

    The shed height is 7ft high, 4 metres in length and 3 metres in width. I asked the county council and they said no problem once it’s not towering over other properties, it won’t be, I just don’t want to run into problems before i start the process

    Anyone with knowledge in this area I’d be interested in hearing from you


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,691 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Get that in writing!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    I’m calling in to them tomorrow to try and get same


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    For the exempted development act:

    No such structure (Shed) shall be constructed, erected or placed forward of the front wall of a house.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    BryanF wrote: »
    For the expected development act:

    No such structure (Shed) shall be constructed, erected or placed forward of the front wall of a house.

    So once it’s inside the gate basically?


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    No front wall of the house.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    BryanF wrote: »
    No front wall of the house.

    Ah jasus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    Do you get on with your neighbours? Have you asked them what they think as it will most likely be them that calls the council.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭Hagimalone


    Where did you tell the council you were putting it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,941 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    CT, just how many houses have you seen with steel sheds in the front garden?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    iwillhtfu wrote: »
    Do you get on with your neighbours? Have you asked them what they think as it will most likely be them that calls the council.

    I haven’t moved in yet, signing the contracts tomorrow and getting the keys then


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    Hagimalone wrote: »
    Where did you tell the council you were putting it?

    I showed them where last week when at the house, they had 2 officials there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    elperello wrote: »
    CT, just how many houses have you seen with steel sheds in the front garden?

    A few over the years, maybe one or two dozen in 20 years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭ActingDanClark


    Hagimalone wrote: »
    Where did you tell the council you were putting it?

    Aras ui dalaigh


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,226 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    I plan to put a steel shed in my front garden as I have no access to the rear without going in through the house.

    The shed height is 7ft high, 4 metres in length and 3 metres in width. I asked the county council and they said no problem once it’s not towering over other properties, it won’t be, I just don’t want to run into problems before i start the process

    Anyone with knowledge in this area I’d be interested in hearing from you

    Not exempt from planning.
    Most likely will not get planning either.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,226 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    I showed them where last week when at the house, they had 2 officials there.

    Why were 2 planning officials at the property?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    Gumbo wrote: »
    Why were 2 planning officials at the property?

    They weren’t planning officials, they were from a different department but I questioned them on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    I haven’t moved in yet, signing the contracts tomorrow and getting the keys then

    I don't fancy your chances much so, what you plan on putting in must be taking up the whole front garden. I also can't see how any council official would say it would be ok as it clearly would be an obvious change/eyesore to the front of the house.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    iwillhtfu wrote: »
    I don't fancy your chances much so, what you plan on putting in must be taking up the whole front garden. I also can't see how any council official would say it would be ok as it clearly would be an obvious change/eyesore to the front of the house.

    It’s quite a big garden, I’m planning to put in hedging which would outgrow it in height anyway, therefore camouflage it. It’s to store bikes.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,226 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    They weren’t planning officials, they were from a different department but I questioned them on it.

    They were misguided to offer any opinion on planning to you to be honest.
    The planning department will direct you to the exemptions. The exemptions will show you require planning for what you propose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    It’s quite a big garden, I’m planning to put in hedging which would outgrow it in height anyway, therefore camouflage it. It’s to store bikes.

    Still a non runner I'm afraid. I assume its a terraced house and garden only the width of the house so its unique in having a large garden.

    A pain though if you have a number of bikes, perhaps a lower height storage area might work but would likely still need planning.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,876 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    See Class 3 of Schedule 2 here which clearly sets out the conditions that apply for a shed to be classed as exempt development. The relevant part in this scenario states ... No such structure shall be constructed, erected or placed forward of the front wall of a house

    You may have seen (like I have) sheds in other people's front gardens but how many have you seen that have planning permission? None of them are exempt and without knowing any specific details I would doubt very much if you would be successful with a planning application.

    Not what you want to hear but that's just my personal opinion and Im always a believer in "never say never" :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    iwillhtfu wrote: »


    Still a non runner I'm afraid. I assume its a terraced house and garden only the width of the house so its unique in having a large garden.

    A pain though if you have a number of bikes, perhaps a lower height storage area might work but would likely still need planning.

    It’s a semi D. Yeah I’ve a few bikes. I’ll run it by the council planning dept tomorrow. Hopefully the neighbours aren’t difficult


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    It’s a semi D. Yeah I’ve a few bikes. I’ll run it by the council planning dept tomorrow. Hopefully the neighbours aren’t difficult

    Does it not have a side entrance so? One of those tiny space ideas that enclose the side walkway would work well id have thought

    https://static.wixstatic.com/media/ff0d8d_016d44d7e3d34ee387a00975f6011a34~mv2.jpeg/v1/fill/w_538,h_950,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/side_entrance_cover_3%20(1).webp


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    iwillhtfu wrote: »
    Does it not have a side entrance so? One of those tiny space ideas that enclose the side walkway would work well id have thought

    https://static.wixstatic.com/media/ff0d8d_016d44d7e3d34ee387a00975f6011a34~mv2.jpeg/v1/fill/w_538,h_950,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/side_entrance_cover_3%20(1).webp

    It did not the previous owner built an extension taking away the side entrance. Having trouble opening that link at the moment


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,226 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    It’s a semi D. Yeah I’ve a few bikes. I’ll run it by the council planning dept tomorrow. Hopefully the neighbours aren’t difficult

    What did the Council say?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    Gumbo wrote: »
    What did the Council say?

    They have no issue with it


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,226 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    They have no issue with it

    LOL

    Either your explaining it wrong to us then or your telling the council something different because what you have highlighted in your previous posts certainly is not exempted development.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,876 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Have to agree with Gumbo. There is something amiss here or else its trolling plain and simple.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭Tpcl20


    Why do you need a steel shed for storing bikes? This box would be the job and it's moveable so I doubt you have to get planning permission for it:
    https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Keter-Store-It-Out-Max-Outdoor-Plastic-Garden-Storage-Shed-Beige-and-Brown/402355941480?hash=item5dae487068:g:BtUAAOSwUUhfL7Xw


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    Gumbo wrote: »
    LOL

    Either your explaining it wrong to us then or your telling the council something different because what you have highlighted in your previous posts certainly is not exempted development.

    They asked me for measurements I have a revised size of 3x3m and 2m high.

    3 separate departments I’ve been to now


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