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Interdepartmental Higher Executive Officer 2020 - (Serving Civil Servants ONLY)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭Uncle Pierre


    eroc79 wrote: »
    It's normally the verbal and situational combined for the final ranking with numeric being pass/fail. If you fail any part, you're out. Not the most efficient method.

    Yeah, it's true that people will only be ranked after the SJT is also completed all right. But it's not beyond the bounds of possibility that they'll issue the scores for verbal and numerical even in advance of the SJT.

    Like somebody else a few pages back, am hoping myself that the numerical score actually counts, rather than just being a simple pass/fail. I normally score higher on it than I do in verbal.

    But as with the other thing, and based on info provided so far, I reckon it's also a "cannot say" right now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 388 ✭✭insert name here 123


    Any idea when we can expect results to issue? Best of luck to everyone!

    Say couple of weeks time... depends on how many applied id imagine...


  • Registered Users Posts: 199 ✭✭Kittykat6


    eroc79 wrote: »
    It's normally the verbal and situational combined for the final ranking with numeric being pass/fail. If you fail any part, you're out. Not the most efficient method.

    I thought stage 1(b) would be the short listing of your application form??


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭cw67irl


    Kittykat6 wrote: »
    I thought stage 1(b) would be the short listing of your application form??


    No one seems to know yet what stage 1B will be. Seems to be a toss up between SJT and Shortlisting. Both likely to feature in the process just not sure where yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭italodisco


    cw67irl wrote: »
    No one seems to know yet what stage 1B will be. Seems to be a toss up between SJT and Shortlisting. Both likely to feature in the process just not sure where yet.

    So is there a chance that those of us that feel we didn't do well in numeric will still get called for further testing???


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  • Registered Users Posts: 27 Dagner88


    From what I remember in the last interdepartmental, you get your results from numerical and verbal. If you passed, you will get a separate notification to say whether your competencies on your application were accepted. If it was felt that the competencies were lacking in info then you did not proceed to the next stage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭Csk2019


    Dagner88 wrote: »
    From what I remember in the last interdepartmental, you get your results from numerical and verbal. If you passed, you will get a separate notification to say whether your competencies on your application were accepted. If it was felt that the competencies were lacking in info then you did not proceed to the next stage.

    I just checked my message board, so in 2019 we got verbal, numerical and management scenarios all in one go and then got results based on verbal and management scenarios and having to pass the numerical. So appears a bit different this time! Unless they send on link for management scenarios now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭caarp


    lucat wrote: »
    Yes they do, and I'm doing the SEO stage 2 this week too, which entails me recording myself answering competency based interview questions. If I pass then you get to do a live interview, yipee. I haven't done any preparation yet as I had to work today, so I'm going to get up early tomorrow morning, do some preparation like timing myself talking & then do the recordings at ab 12 when I'll have the house free.

    How'd it go? Did you do it this morning?


  • Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭Ahshurlookit


    Stage 1(b) will be management scenarios, stage 2 will be shortlisting, stage 3 will either be video interview or an etray exercise or presentation and stage 4 will be the final interview.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,601 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    Stage 1(b) will be management scenarios, stage 2 will be shortlisting, stage 3 will either be video interview or an etray exercise or presentation and stage 4 will be the final interview.

    wow sounds a lot tougher than the last one in 2019


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  • Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭caarp


    Stage 1(b) will be management scenarios, stage 2 will be shortlisting, stage 3 will either be video interview or an etray exercise or presentation and stage 4 will be the final interview.

    Thanks for the information Ahshurlookit. Could I ask you where you found this information? I've looked through the circular announcing the competition and the booklet with the pre-test material but I must have overlooked it somehow? MTIA.


  • Registered Users Posts: 337 ✭✭lucat


    caarp wrote: »
    How'd it go? Did you do it this morning?

    Did it this evening. Hated the whole thing. I made no eye contact with the camera- too busy rushing through answers and wondering if I had forgotten to mention anything important. You only get 3 minutes to answer each question.


  • Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭Ahshurlookit


    It wasn't in the information booklet, I've heard it third hand from a friend of a friend who's in the know!

    The 2019 competition had stage 1 aptitude tests, stage 2 shortlisting, stage 3 supervised tests and stage 4 interview and presentation. The recording has done away with the supervised tests. I'd argue that this is easier as you don't have to do interview and presentation the same day, which was an absolute nightmare!


  • Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭caarp


    It wasn't in the information booklet, I've heard it third hand from a friend of a friend who's in the know!

    The 2019 competition had stage 1 aptitude tests, stage 2 shortlisting, stage 3 supervised tests and stage 4 interview and presentation. The recording has done away with the supervised tests. I'd argue that this is easier as you don't have to do interview and presentation the same day, which was an absolute nightmare!

    Ahhh, very good. Yes, doing a presentation and interview on the same day sounds awful alright. Hope we hear back soon with the results.


  • Registered Users Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Dublintigger


    It wasn't in the information booklet, I've heard it third hand from a friend of a friend who's in the know!

    The 2019 competition had stage 1 aptitude tests, stage 2 shortlisting, stage 3 supervised tests and stage 4 interview and presentation. The recording has done away with the supervised tests. I'd argue that this is easier as you don't have to do interview and presentation the same day, which was an absolute nightmare!

    Is this for HEO or SEO?


  • Registered Users Posts: 337 ✭✭lucat


    Is this for HEO or SEO?

    HEO


  • Registered Users Posts: 161 ✭✭Kenevil


    I reckon we should hear something on Wednesday either results or stage 1(b). Hopefully anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭italodisco


    Kenevil wrote: »
    I reckon we should hear something on Wednesday either results or stage 1(b). Hopefully anyway.

    Hope it's results, don't fancy getting asked to another stage if I failed one of the parts I did last week


  • Registered Users Posts: 680 ✭✭✭redmgar


    Kenevil wrote: »
    I reckon we should hear something on Wednesday either results or stage 1(b). Hopefully anyway.

    Not a chance it will be results on Wednesday.
    At least another two weeks away.


  • Registered Users Posts: 161 ✭✭Kenevil


    redmgar wrote: »
    Not a chance it will be results on Wednesday.
    At least another two weeks away.

    Just going on previous comp. I got results a week after close of test link. Being hopeful too.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 680 ✭✭✭redmgar


    Kenevil wrote: »
    Just going on previous comp. I got results a week after close of test link. Being hopeful too.

    Maybe it's different for heo campaigns, but all other campaigns are extremely slow.
    Obviously smaller numbers might apply, which speed it up, I am surprised that you got results in a week though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 161 ✭✭Kenevil


    redmgar wrote: »
    Maybe it's different for heo campaigns, but all other campaigns are extremely slow.
    Obviously smaller numbers might apply, which speed it up, I am surprised that you got results in a week though.

    It was 2016 EO comp stage 1 b we got results 2 weeks after the test link was issued and had a week to take the test like this comp. But since we have still a stage 1 b to do on this one it will probably be different as I said i'm just being hopeful :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭westhamlady


    Took 3 weeks to get the results last year for the EO comp


  • Registered Users Posts: 181 ✭✭Purpletoes


    No real hints other than to get as much practice in. The % ones are the usual stuff. It can be hard to know which figure you're basing your percentage off, at times. The trick is to put yourself in the position of the correct element, and use that as your baseline.

    e.g.......

    Liverpool scored 43 goals so far this season
    Man Utd scored 49 goals so far this season

    Depending on how the question is phrased, you can have different answers.
    a. Liverpool have scored 87.7% of the amount of Man Utd goals.......(43/49)
    b. Man Utd are 12.2% ahead of Liverpool in goals scored........(49-43)/49
    c. Liverpool must score 13.9% more goals to catch up........(49-43)/43

    In b, you are Man Utd and basing the percentage of your figure so 49 is your baseline. Whereas in c, you're using Liverpool as the baseline, if you get me, so you need to increase your figure by a certain percentage.....so 43 is the figure you use.

    Just because the answer you arrive at is one of the options available, doesn't mean you got it correct.

    FWIW, I found it much easier than the tests for the last few EO ones I've done. I agree about one of the graphs not making sense in terms of how to calculate your answer. They were looking for the average weekly figure for X. When I added them up and divided by 7, it didn't look anything like the answers offered.
    (Having typed this up now, perhaps I should have divided by 5 instead, using the work week instead of the actual week).

    It specified business days which is 5


  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭Gillouise


    Just wondering if everyone got the link for the situational tests stage 1b... or is it an indication of passing 1a?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 96 ✭✭Milenauno


    Gillouise wrote: »
    Just wondering if everyone got the link for the situational tests stage 1b... or is it an indication of passing 1a?

    I got the link but it’s not clear if we passed the stage 1 a or not.


  • Registered Users Posts: 544 ✭✭✭jules86


    Gillouise wrote: »
    Just wondering if everyone got the link for the situational tests stage 1b... or is it an indication of passing 1a?

    Not yet, probably won't send all at once (I hope)
    I wouldn't imagine they would have them all marked in a week PAS usually take a while for results


  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭Gillouise


    jules86 wrote: »
    Not yet, probably won't send all at once (I hope)
    I wouldn't imagine they would have them all marked in a week PAS usually take a while for results

    It came through email only this time just incase you haven't checked


  • Registered Users Posts: 544 ✭✭✭jules86


    Gillouise wrote: »
    It came through email only this time just incase you haven't checked

    Thanks I did, and I logged in nothing yet. :(


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  • Registered Users Posts: 544 ✭✭✭jules86


    There it is


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