Cork Property Thread

Mav11

All I can say about this is wow!! Look at the price increase!

https://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/17-centenary-row-ballyhooly-cork-t23-d6v3/4502877

ofcork

SummerK wrote: »

Yes the 4 bed detached are hovering around 480k & 500k in ballinglana, not sure if they still have LIHAF grant of 20k.

A friend recently purchased a new 4 bed detached in whites cross for 440k. A bit steep price IMO. He got 400k mortgage approved, so he is happy.

Is that in coppinger fields brother paid 340 last year for a 4 bed semi there.

whatever76

Mav11 wrote: »

All I can say about this is wow!! Look at the price increase!

https://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/17-centenary-row-ballyhooly-cork-t23-d6v3/4502877

Jaysus - that cant be right surely ?

Mav11

whatever76 wrote: »

Jaysus - that cant be right surely ?

If somebody is bonkers enough to pay it, its right.

dockysher

Is moving to cork considered foreign travel if your living in galway?

SummerK

ofcork wrote: »

Is that in coppinger fields brother paid 340 last year for a 4 bed semi there.

Yes it is in coppenger fields. I felt price is steep but it appears house is slightly bigger at 166 m2 and since its a corner detached unit, he was ok to pay that kind of money.
340k for 4 bed sounds reasonable to me in today's scenario.

liam7831

I find The Examiner are great at making the market even more frenzied with their articles online and in print sensationalising ever property.

marno21

JCD 25 storey apartment block scrapped at Albert Quay. Rents of €2.8k required to make it viable which is a 50%+ premium on the Elysian.

It speaks volumes that level of rent is required to make this viable. You can find apartments in more luxurious towers than this twice the height in other western cities for much less than that.

Something has got to chance in this city or we'll be looking at offices or derelict sites for the forseeable.

Lia_lia

Okay this is probably the most ridiculous I’ve seen. Over half a million for a 3 bed D rated bungalow on the the Model Farm Road. Paying for the location but come on!

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/bungalow-shalom-model-farm-road-co-cork/3255713

namloc1980

Lia_lia wrote: »

Okay this is probably the most ridiculous I’ve seen. Over half a million for a 3 bed D rated bungalow on the the Model Farm Road. Paying for the location but come on!

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/bungalow-shalom-model-farm-road-co-cork/3255713

Lunacy. The garden and driveway are in a bad state and need serious money. Inside needs a massive revamp too. And what's going on with that sliding door in one of the pictures? It seems to immediately lead into a wall with another door.

shnaek

Lia_lia wrote: »

Okay this is probably the most ridiculous I’ve seen. Over half a million for a 3 bed D rated bungalow on the the Model Farm Road. Paying for the location but come on!

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/bungalow-shalom-model-farm-road-co-cork/3255713

Whoever buys it will knock it.

shnaek

marno21 wrote: »

JCD 25 storey apartment block scrapped at Albert Quay. Rents of €2.8k required to make it viable which is a 50%+ premium on the Elysian.

It speaks volumes that level of rent is required to make this viable. You can find apartments in more luxurious towers than this twice the height in other western cities for much less than that.

Something has got to chance in this city or we'll be looking at offices or derelict sites for the forseeable.

So they knocked the Sextant for nothing - just like Camden Palace and Sample Studios. And the brewery (so far at least).

IHateNewShoes

Lia_lia wrote: »

Okay this is probably the most ridiculous I’ve seen. Over half a million for a 3 bed D rated bungalow on the the Model Farm Road. Paying for the location but come on!

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/bungalow-shalom-model-farm-road-co-cork/3255713

Agreed!!

I’ll also ever understand the attraction to having a small bar counter in your house to be honest. Looks more awkward than anything!

Kerry25x

IHateNewShoes wrote: »

Agreed!!

I’ll also ever understand the attraction to having a small bar counter in your house to be honest. Looks more awkward than anything!

I sometimes like them but this one is very bulky and squashed in to that room.

Photo selection is pretty dire, didn't clearly show any bedrooms.

rob316

Very interested in this. It's about 500m from the main road and 10 mins from ballincolig. Massive garden.

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/bungalow-farran-ovens-ballincollig-co-cork/1519052

namloc1980

rob316 wrote: »

Very interested in this. It's about 500m from the main road and 10 mins from ballincolig. Massive garden.

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/bungalow-farran-ovens-ballincollig-co-cork/1519052

In Google maps it literally backs into the N22. I'd say the traffic noise would be horrendous.

Spideoige

rob316 wrote: »

Very interested in this. It's about 500m from the main road and 10 mins from ballincolig. Massive garden.

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/bungalow-farran-ovens-ballincollig-co-cork/1519052

Been on the market at least a few years, must be some issues other than the road.

shnaek

shnaek wrote: »

So they knocked the Sextant for nothing - just like Camden Palace and Sample Studios. And the brewery (so far at least).

Plenty has been built on that site.

shnaek

Augeo wrote: »

Plenty has been built on that site.

True, but not the main thing they were supposed to build on that site.

rob316

rob316 wrote: »

Very interested in this. It's about 500m from the main road and 10 mins from ballincolig. Massive garden.

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/bungalow-farran-ovens-ballincollig-co-cork/1519052

Only a fifth of an acre, that's very small for a countryside house.

rob316

Spideoige wrote: »

Been on the market at least a few years, must be some issues other than the road.

Didn't realize it was up that long, ya must be something else. Its a perfect location. I'll look into it, maybe the noise is horrendous.

namloc1980

rob316 wrote: »

Didn't realize it was up that long, ya must be something else. Its a perfect location. I'll look into it, the noise wouldn't bother me, I've lived off south gate bridge for 12 years.

Its a countryside setting, but its practically ovens.

The garden is about 6 or 7 metres from the N22 which is a very busy road with lots of heavy traffic. You can see how close it is to the N22 on this link - it's on top of the road. Wouldn't describe that as "perfect".

https://goo.gl/maps/qrPzhgPh9Lb1DqVT7

donnaille

Does anyone know much about this new development of 4 bed detached in Carrigaline? - https://www.daft.ie/new-home-for-sale/abbeylane-road-carrigaline-co-cork/3219283

shnaek

shnaek wrote: »

True, but not the main thing they were supposed to build on that site.

Well you claim the brewery was knocked for nothing, that's obviously not the case, there has been considerable investment on the site that has manifested itself in what can be seen there now
And what's there now was supposed to be built there unless they've gone rogue, which they haven't

Lia_lia

rob316 wrote: »

Very interested in this. It's about 500m from the main road and 10 mins from ballincolig. Massive garden.

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/bungalow-farran-ovens-ballincollig-co-cork/1519052

That’s been up for years, must be some issue.

Nerdlingr

Mav11 wrote: »

All I can say about this is wow!! Look at the price increase!

https://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/17-centenary-row-ballyhooly-cork-t23-d6v3/4502877

Was gonna post this too. Unbelievable.
No wonder the market is f*cked.

shnaek

Augeo wrote: »

Well you claim the brewery was knocked for nothing, that's obviously not the case, there has been considerable investment on the site that has manifested itself in what can be seen there now
And what's there now was supposed to be built there unless they've gone rogue, which they haven't

Yera, I just liked having the oldest brewery in Ireland there (and the Beamish too ). Could have lived with them knocking it for an event centre and rehearsal rooms that would bring life, music and business to the town. I guess I'm just sickened when I see the cultural type things being knocked\not built - hence the reason I included the Brewery site in my list. Seems that permission is granted for large scale developments with artistic(Event Centre) environmental(green spaces) food(Capital building) and living(apartments changed to offices) elements, then those elements are dropped after the land is cleared. Maybe that happens outside of Ireland too. Kinda comes across as a bit rogue to me

rob316

A friend of mine inherited this, and has it up for sale. I helped him refurbish it years ago, the price is ridiculous though, its absolutely tiny inside. The pictures make it look far bigger.

https://irishandeuropean.ie/property/113-high-street-cork-city-co-cork/

rain on

rob316 wrote: »

A friend of mine inherited this, and has it up for sale. I helped him refurbish it years ago, the price is ridiculous though, its absolutely tiny inside. The pictures make it look far bigger.

https://irishandeuropean.ie/property/113-high-street-cork-city-co-cork/

I was looking at that on Daft recently alright. The location is great, arguably, but 44 sqm with almost no outside space is really cramped. Potential for serious traffic noise from the junction and road outside as well.

Reminds me of this one, which has been up for a while: https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/end-of-terrace-house-the-lodge-1a-thomond-square-co-cork/2845239
Nice location, nice finish, but nearly 200k for 33 sqm? You might be able to swing a cat, if you were very careful about it..

rob316

rain on wrote: »

I was looking at that on Daft recently alright. The location is great, arguably, but 44 sqm with almost no outside space is really cramped. Potential for serious traffic noise from the junction and road outside as well.

Reminds me of this one, which has been up for a while: https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/end-of-terrace-house-the-lodge-1a-thomond-square-co-cork/2845239
Nice location, nice finish, but nearly 200k for 33 sqm? You might be able to swing a cat, if you were very careful about it..

Same here, https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/terraced-house-24-vicar-street-cork-co-cork/3188257

No doubt an excellent job at refurbishing it, but its like a house squeezed in between 2.

Mad money for essentially one open plan room.

liam7831

Some asking price on this end up not far off half a mill I'd say

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/detached-house-49-lisheen-fields-ovens-co-cork/3265436

Mav11

rob316 wrote: »

Same here, https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/terraced-house-24-vicar-street-cork-co-cork/3188257

No doubt an excellent job at refurbishing it, but its like a house squeezed in between 2.

Mad money for essentially one open plan room.

Mad money and tiny alright, but might be better value than a small studio apartment?

Mr.CoolGuy

donnaille wrote: »

Does anyone know much about this new development of 4 bed detached in Carrigaline? - https://www.daft.ie/new-home-for-sale/abbeylane-road-carrigaline-co-cork/3219283

I have a bit of experience with this one. What questions have you?

donnaille

Mr.CoolGuy wrote: »

I have a bit of experience with this one. What questions have you?

Hi Mr.Coolguy - a few questions I currently have.

I haven't come across the developer before so any detail on previous developments?
Also looks like it may have been started by another firm, before current developer took over - Could be way off on this, but I'm assuming this is some of the reason how some of these houses will be A3 BER, as seems like it's taken quite some time to get the first phase to completion? I haven't seen natural ventilation in any new builds recently, or chimneys for that matter.
Houses are big, but room layout and space utilisation mean the rooms are only similar sized to some smaller floor space 4 bed semis and detached in the Carrigaline area (e.g. Castle Heights, Janeville etc.). Currently looking to upsize from a 4 bed semi and not entirely sure we are getting enough extra space on this based on room sizes - however overall floorplan would be an increase.

Mr.CoolGuy

I actually don't know much about the developer so I can't help there. As far as I'm aware though it's been the same developer the whole way through.

The developer began by building the first 5, and is now starting on the second 5. I believe he expects the last houses to be handed over in about 16 months (I'd never believe any builder when they say this though). Chimneys aren't a thing in some new build developments (Janeville has none).


I fully agree regarding the layout. I'm in the same boat as you, and that is turning me off a bit. If I'm to trade up, I think I would like at least 2 living rooms on the ground floor, not including the living space attached to the kitchen. The Janeville 4 bed detached will go on the market at about €450k and will have a very similar layout to these. The quality of finish in Abbeylane will be much higher though, eg the corner window in the back room compared to normal windows in Janeville.

Overall I think the houses are really nice, and if you don't need a dedicated playroom downstairs than the layout should be ok. South facing gardens too. By the time they're finished the new western relief road will be opening so traffic might be a bit better too. I'm sorry I can't help you with some of your more technical queries

donnaille

Mr.CoolGuy wrote: »

I actually don't know much about the developer so I can't help there. As far as I'm aware though it's been the same developer the whole way through.

The developer began by building the first 5, and is now starting on the second 5. I believe he expects the last houses to be handed over in about 16 months (I'd never believe any builder when they say this though). Chimneys aren't a thing in some new build developments (Janeville has none).


I fully agree regarding the layout. I'm in the same boat as you, and that is turning me off a bit. If I'm to trade up, I think I would like at least 2 living rooms on the ground floor, not including the living space attached to the kitchen. The Janeville 4 bed detached will go on the market at about €450k and will have a very similar layout to these. The quality of finish in Abbeylane will be much higher though, eg the corner window in the back room compared to normal windows in Janeville.

Overall I think the houses are really nice, and if you don't need a dedicated playroom downstairs than the layout should be ok. South facing gardens too. By the time they're finished the new western relief road will be opening so traffic might be a bit better too. I'm sorry I can't help you with some of your more technical queries

Much appreciate all of that - thank you.

I have a very similar view, would prefer more of the space to be in the living areas of the house vs the bedrooms. From what I've seen I prefer the houses that are built over 2 floors as the ground floor benefits from the majority of the space.

Re. Janeville, I'd heard there are significant increases on the cards for the 4 and 5 bed detached. I was expecting this to be in excess of 450k.

Spideoige

Mr.CoolGuy wrote: »

I actually don't know much about the developer so I can't help there. As far as I'm aware though it's been the same developer the whole way through.

The developer began by building the first 5, and is now starting on the second 5. I believe he expects the last houses to be handed over in about 16 months (I'd never believe any builder when they say this though). Chimneys aren't a thing in some new build developments (Janeville has none).


I fully agree regarding the layout. I'm in the same boat as you, and that is turning me off a bit. If I'm to trade up, I think I would like at least 2 living rooms on the ground floor, not including the living space attached to the kitchen. The Janeville 4 bed detached will go on the market at about €450k and will have a very similar layout to these. The quality of finish in Abbeylane will be much higher though, eg the corner window in the back room compared to normal windows in Janeville.

Overall I think the houses are really nice, and if you don't need a dedicated playroom downstairs than the layout should be ok. South facing gardens too. By the time they're finished the new western relief road will be opening so traffic might be a bit better too. I'm sorry I can't help you with some of your more technical queries

I think that it's a bit of a grim set up. Having only ten houses has it's merits but it feels so detached from everywhere else around it despite having a feel of a large housing estate. Having one less house here and giving a bit more space to each house would have worked I think. I see on the planning file that one house will go to Cork County Council. If it had been nine houses they would not have been required to do that. Although I suppose they just wanted to fit in what they could in the space and probably knew they'd get that kind of asking price in any case. I just don't see what sets this apart from Janeville or Castle Heights.

donnaille

Spideoige wrote: »

I think that it's a bit of a grim set up. Having only ten houses has it's merits but it feels so detached from everywhere else around it despite having a feel of a large housing estate. Having one less house here and giving a bit more space to each house would have worked I think. I see on the planning file that one house will go to Cork County Council. If it had been nine houses they would not have been required to do that. Although I suppose they just wanted to fit in what they could in the space and probably knew they'd get that kind of asking price in any case. I just don't see what sets this apart from Janeville or Castle Heights.

I do agree, they have built it like a street in any of the estates mentioned - reducing by 1-2 houses could have made a lovely small estate...although seems to be a challenge to get planning for those type of smaller developments now.

The planning file mentions a unit offsite, in Carrigaline village to comply with Part V requirements.

Spideoige

donnaille wrote: »

I do agree, they have built it like a street in any of the estates mentioned - reducing by 1-2 houses could have made a lovely small estate...although seems to be a challenge to get planning for those type of smaller developments now.

The planning file mentions a unit offsite, in Carrigaline village to comply with Part V requirements.

I didn't realise it would be an off-site unit. That's fair enough! It'll be interesting to see how quickly these houses go, they're pricey enough so I don't think it'll be too quick of a turnaround.

Bhail

Does anybody have/know any experience of Donnybrook?

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/semi-detached-house-1-daneswood-donnybrook-douglas-co-cork/3252020

Most options in Maryborough are too expensive.
I like that this estate is small. Less through traffic and noise?

This is on the opposite side of Douglas then, at Moneygurney then.

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/semi-detached-house-58-fort-hill-moneygurney-douglas-co-cork/3252348

But then this is starting off cheaper than both of the others. Quite a bit. Is there any particular reason? Does anyone currently or ever live in any of these areas?

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/terraced-house-40-belmont-avenue-rochestown-co-cork/3199362

Timing belt

Bhail wrote: »

Does anybody have/know any experience of Donnybrook?

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/semi-detached-house-1-daneswood-donnybrook-douglas-co-cork/3252020

Most options in Maryborough are too expensive.
I like that this estate is small. Less through traffic and noise?

This is on the opposite side of Douglas then, at Moneygurney then.

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/semi-detached-house-58-fort-hill-moneygurney-douglas-co-cork/3252348

But then this is starting off cheaper than both of the others. Quite a bit. Is there any particular reason? Does anyone currently or ever live in any of these areas?

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/terraced-house-40-belmont-avenue-rochestown-co-cork/3199362

Donnybrook is a quite and safe neighborhood with good access to the woods and Douglas. The only drawback can be traffic in the mornings when schools are on.

Mav11

Started, I think at €250k in April now relisted at €205k.

Is there some sanity coming to the market??

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/terraced-house-34-ballyhooly-road-dillons-cross-co-cork/3281715

Gru

Bhail wrote: »

Does anybody have/know any experience of Donnybrook?

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/semi-detached-house-1-daneswood-donnybrook-douglas-co-cork/3252020

Most options in Maryborough are too expensive.
I like that this estate is small. Less through traffic and noise?

This is on the opposite side of Douglas then, at Moneygurney then.

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/semi-detached-house-58-fort-hill-moneygurney-douglas-co-cork/3252348

But then this is starting off cheaper than both of the others. Quite a bit. Is there any particular reason? Does anyone currently or ever live in any of these areas?

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/terraced-house-40-belmont-avenue-rochestown-co-cork/3199362

In my opinion Donnybrook is gone quiet enough, mix of elderly/older families/young families. Daneswood itself is at the start of a quiet enough road, just servicing the houses in the various estates off it. The Donnybrook hill can be a nightmare for traffic but Daneswood would be a 10-15 minute walk to Douglas village/local schools...etc and the uphill parts aren't that steep. it would have a bus every 20/30 minutes or so (the 207 which stops at 11pm-ish), the ballybrack walkway (mangla) can have gangs of teens, but in general is a much utilised by locals walkway to the village since it was done up lately. Internet services can be hit or miss depending on the estate.



in my opinion Maryborough is mostly young families/working professionals, quite a bit of trouble with teens around the mount oval/Broadale woods and garyduff woods area's which both those houses would be close to. you wouldn't really be walking to Douglas village from them either it would take you about 40+ minutes to walk the Maryborough hill, also coming back up it's much steeper than the donnybrook hill which puts people off walking or cycling up it (although it does have a dedicated cycle lane)

it's serviced by the 220 bus which is 24 hours (handy for nights out). Traffic coming down the Maryborough hill can easily back up in the mornings and is likely to get worse with 1000's of houses currently being built up there. but you do have feeder roads to carrigaline/rochestown road as options. Internet is generally great with Siro in the area in most of the estates.

leahyl

Mav11 wrote: »

Started, I think at €250k in April now relisted at €205k.

Is there some sanity coming to the market??

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/terraced-house-34-ballyhooly-road-dillons-cross-co-cork/3281715

Not surprised, what an odd looking back garden!

Mav11

leahyl wrote: »

Not surprised, what an odd looking back garden!

Indeed. On a very busy road also.

liam7831

Was previously advertised at €475 now €490.

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/detached-house-orchard-view-sweeney-146-s-hill-rathpeacon-blarney-co-cork/3285027

thejuggler

liam7831 wrote: »

Was previously advertised at €475 now €490.

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/detached-house-orchard-view-sweeney-146-s-hill-rathpeacon-blarney-co-cork/3285027

That house has been on the market several times over the last 20 years. Not sure if it ever sold.

rain on

Mav11 wrote: »

Started, I think at €250k in April now relisted at €205k.

Is there some sanity coming to the market??

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/terraced-house-34-ballyhooly-road-dillons-cross-co-cork/3281715

Similarly, this place which was listed at 195k for a few months is now relisted with an asking of 179k (still vastly overpriced for the size of it IMO) and the description "FIRST OFFER OF €179,000 SECURES":

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/end-of-terrace-house-the-lodge-1a-thomond-square-co-cork/3283449

theboringfox

Asked about one today and already over 10%\ 40k above asking less than week after going up. Not seeing any sign it is slowing down. This one has great garden, location and aspect but likely needs work and extension at some point. Ppl not being put off by construction / renovation costs going through roof it seems and not just houses already done up getting big prices. Great property tbf.

who_me

rain on wrote: »

Similarly, this place which was listed at 195k for a few months is now relisted with an asking of 179k (still vastly overpriced for the size of it IMO) and the description "FIRST OFFER OF €179,000 SECURES":

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/end-of-terrace-house-the-lodge-1a-thomond-square-co-cork/3283449

It's a very clever use of extremely limited space, and looks well. But by God it's tiny. For a short-term period it'd make an affordable home for a young professional... but very impractical and limiting for anything longer.