Emerald Airlines.... new kid in town!

HTCOne

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118475825#Comment_118475825

ATR 72-600 has the lowest CASM (cost per available seat mile) of any commercial aircraft in operation today. Essentially if you can fill it, nothing is as cheap to operate per seat.

smurfjed

They are advertising for crews in Belfast, are these for EI routes ? 3 airplanes so far, what is the final expected fleet number ?

kevinandrew

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118549021#Comment_118549021

Emerald announced their intention to set up a base at Belfast City under the Aer Lingus Regional brand a week or two ago. No firm dates or numbers were given but they did list the six ‘high frequency’ routes they plan to operate.

https://www.emeraldairlines.com/article/more-flights-and-lower-fares-passengers-set-to-benefit-as-emerald-airlines-and-george-best-belfast-city-airport-announce-new-long-term-partnership

donkey balls

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118467253#Comment_118467253

Yep the ATR on some routes would use about 1700kgs of fuel for a sector,Mate of mine flies the 737 and they could use about 2000kgs of fuel if departing from RWY 10 with the long taxi and possible delays.

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California Dreamer

Are ops starting this weekend?

kevinandrew

It looks like it, all going well the first flight is scheduled to be EI3401 CFN-DUB at 07:55 on 26 February.

California Dreamer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118666499#Comment_118666499

You are way way off the mark here on your 2000kg taxi fuel for a 73. Assuming the airline is Ryanair, no way would MOL order aircraft with a fuel burn like that.

Now, 230kg taxi fuel for 28L and about 600kg for 10L on a 320. The airbus is very fuel efficient but not that much!

You could use 2000kg on a neo from DUB-LHR!

California Dreamer

EI-GPO the latest ATR to leave the paintshop.

kevinandrew

Emerald also bas EI-FSK and EI-FSL fully painted in Toulouse Francazal which brings the painted fleet to five.

donkey balls

My bad added an extra 0 at the end,

Van.Bosch

First flight completed

kevinandrew

Emerald expanded into Belfast City today with its initial daily flight to Birmingham taking off, further expansion of services commences this weekend from both Belfast and Dublin with another ramp up in frequencies in early May.

There's now 6 aircraft registered to the airline;

EI-GPN - In service

EI-GPP - In service

EI-GPO - Training (Dublin)

EI-GZV - Stored (Exeter)

EI-GZY - Stored (Franczazal)

EI-FSL - Stored (Franczazal)

It appears to be coming together quite nicely, the first real test is the expansion this weekend so hopefully the remaining aircraft will be entering service imminently ready for busy weeks ahead.

kevinandrew

Emerald appears to have suffered some nasty delays so far this week. The Edinburgh flight this evening is operating almost four hours late.

The relatively small fleet is being kept very, very busy.

EDIT: Manchester service is also four hours late this evening. There was no explanation in the terminal building but crew on board claim they’d been ready and waiting for over an hour.

Locker10a

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118863487#Comment_118863487

Yep noticed that! They seem to be in meltdown! Not a great start…. Anyone know why?

Oscar Bravo

The Donegal flight which was due to leave at 1845 has just left Dublin now. With such a small fleet once one aircraft runs late thats it for the day

California Dreamer

Eagle eyes on Emerald ready to pounce for any misdemeanours in the early days. Good thing no other airlines experience delays or tech aircraft....

bikeman1

I was looking on FR24 at some of the Emerald delays yesterday. I understand aircraft go tech and the subsequent knock on delays with a small fleet. However, I have noticed that they seem to spend a lot of time on the ground between flights. No quick turnarounds. I've seen Stobart do some nice snappy turnarounds and make up some time as well as good block times. Unloading and loading an ATR72 should not take that long.

Is there some ground handling issues?

Take EI-FSR yesterday.

Landed DUB 09:51, departed 10:53.

Landed EDI 11:46, departed 12:46.

These should be back up in circa 30/35 minutes.

maxamillius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118863487#Comment_118863487

I was stuck in Edinburgh due to that delayed and subsequently cancelled flight last Monday. The plane couldn’t land due to fog so had to divert to Glasgow. An absolute disaster to be honest, it was not handled well by Swiss port at all.

Stovepipe

well, that's whatcha get when the companies pay minimum wage, shite contracts to loaders/cleaners/handlers,etc and yet expect flawless service. race to the bottom.

California Dreamer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118885550#Comment_118885550

As soon as I read the word 'Swissport' I thought to myself that this will not end well for anyone but most especially the passenger.

Lapmo_Dancer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118666499#Comment_118666499

Much less than 1700 kgs on a typical DUB to U.K. sector. 1700 might be the dispatch/block fuel but that will include taxi, a conservative trip figure, contingency, alternate, final reserve and a fair bit of extra the crew have decided on.

Chris_5339762

Emerald really don't seem to be doing very well for punctuality. I know things are hard at the moment but this is the late evening Bristol to Dublin flight and its almost always well over an hour late. Is this just how things are (I doubt it because no other airline seems this bad), or is it something fundamentally wrong at Emerald? Aer Arann was never this bad.

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kevinandrew

Take a look at all the departures from BRS this evening, every flight departing late, plenty of them well over an hour behind schedule. It's chronically understaffed there and it's become a common sight every day this summer.

Emerald at DUB have been very poor across the board it has to be said, they had some teething problems in the first few weeks which were being ironed out but then the summer schedule really took off and they've been fighting a losing battle with congestion, poor ground handlers and staff shortages ever since.

Elsewhere, BHD seems to be a much healthier operation, they manage to keep to schedule or recover more quickly when things do go wrong which suggests the problems aren't endemic to Emerald but rather a symptom of the general situation.

Nowhere near as bad as whats going on at Flybe 2.0 though.

bikeman1

What I can’t understand is how slow they are at turning around the 72’s. Stobart were very good at this. Had one or two buses out at the plane as the last passengers were disembarking. Boarding commenced ASAP and with 60 / 70 pax, it was a fast enough boarding.

These guys look to take well over an hour on ground each time.

Probably partly due to their ground handling agents in the UK having literally no staff.

California Dreamer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119224741#Comment_119224741

I love when they or others blame ground crew and/or staff shortages for the delays.

On Indeed, the rates of pay for a flight dispatcher is €13-€14 an hour.

PSA is €12.09

Who wants to work those unsociable hours for that kind of money?

All the big corporations cried foul that they would go bust if they paid higher wages to staff. Some companies did and do pay more and guess what, they didn't go bust! All that happens here is that the common traveller moans, swears they will never fly them again and then be back on the same flight the following month.

Stovepipe

Eu 14/hr for a dispatcher?! no wonder they can't get people!

FlubberJones

Emerald were the company taking me to Bristol on Saturday, after four hours delay I decided not to fly, it was shocking.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119233453#Comment_119233453

The last part of your post is definitely not true. Most of their routes have strong competition and people are not as big of idiots as you are making out.

California Dreamer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119241858#Comment_119241858

You are talking about the travelling public here? Ok! :)

Stovepipe

Well, McCarthy had better do something about Dublin Aerospace, as his workforce is leaving as fast as they can quit. The ordinary hangar worker, engaged in overhauls, can't sustain a decent living when they are paid the lowest in the airport and bag slingers are earning more than them. All he wants to do is pare costs to the bone but regular humans take the hit and Emerald will go the same way.

Browney7

Anyone know if they are strict on cabin baggage dimensions? I have a case that suffices for the 10kg limit on Aer Lingus but is over the allowed size as per the aer Lingus info. Don't fancy checking in a bag given the DUB landside situation or else I would carry to the gate if they allow pax to put in the hold at the gate?

California Dreamer

More often than not, getting to the aircraft and seeing that it’s too big they will throw it in the hold.

kevinandrew

More new routes from Belfast City; Southampton & Cardiff starting 7 July.

Seems a very short lead in for new routes but may be a case of restricting FlyBe's chances at getting much of a foothold.

easygoing39

Connor himself loading bags for Emerald this week and last.