New Tucson

Bez Bing

Any opinion on this?
Looks like a good upgrade to what was a very popular car.

https://www.hyundai.ie/all-new-tucson/

colm_mcm

Didn’t expect it to look like that!

biko

Looks very different. Very rugged/aggressive.

Stallingrad

Kind of came out of no-where and fair play to Hyundai, looks great inside and out, much more desirable. If this was VW they would not mess with a winning formula and just churn out another derivative. This is much more brave.

shanec1928

Markn on here has a video up on it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebeDePHaNMI&t=410s

colm_mcm

Stallingrad wrote: »

Kind of came out of no-where and fair play to Hyundai, looks great inside and out, much more desirable. If this was VW they would not mess with a winning formula and just churn out another derivative. This is much more brave.

The problem with contemporary is that it’s only fresh for so long.

Look at the likes of the Renault Megane through the years. They were forever trying new looks, and there is no relationship between them bar the badge. VW have at least kept the lineage very clear, and this helps repeat sales.

Hats off to Hyundai though, it makes it’s rivals looks very plain. Clear influences from the likes of the VW Touareg and the Toyota RAV4

Let’s see what an oversupply of them to the likes of Gardai and rentals, and what the inevitable small wheels for emissions does to dampen the appeal.


Curious to see what the new Sportage will be like now. Any renderings I’ve seen seem to be more of a facelift.

For Forks Sake

Did they kidnap a Lexus designer?

Bez Bing

colm_mcm wrote: »

The problem with contemporary is that it’s only fresh for so long.

Look at the likes of the Renault Megane through the years. They were forever trying new looks, and there is no relationship between them bar the badge. VW have at least kept the lineage very clear, and this helps repeat sales.

Hats off to Hyundai though, it makes it’s rivals looks very plain. Clear influences from the likes of the VW Touareg and the Toyota RAV4

Let’s see what an oversupply of them to the likes of Gardai and rentals, and what the inevitable small wheels for emissions does to dampen the appeal.


Curious to see what the new Sportage will be like now. Any renderings I’ve seen seem to be more of a facelift.

What do you mean by 'small wheels for emissions' ?

punisher5112

Bez Bing wrote: »

What do you mean by 'small wheels for emissions' ?

They make them skinnier on some models to get the 18s etc...

Toyotafanboi

Had a go in one yesterday, interior is nice, the front end is very edgy, excuse the pun but i think the rear end may take a bit of getting used to in the flesh. The rear wiper is clever the way it hides in the spoiler. It looks a bit lost on the 17's, bigger wheel options do a lot for it.

The only other really strinking thing for me is how much smaller it is than the outgoing Tucson. Reasonably spacious inside but i would say the new model is probably a bit smaller than the current Tiguan for example.

colm_mcm

Qashqai sized?

Toyotafanboi

Give or take, yeah.

Much more that type of a car than any of the previous Tucsons.

MarkN

Qashqai sized - not sure I'd fully agree anymore. Feels a little roomier - the rear legroom in the back of the last model had more room than a Qashqai too I felt.

Not Qashqai priced however - the mid trim petrol is just shy of 40k albeit with an auto gearbox due to hybrid but you do get leather etc at that too.

Cordell

According to this it's actually a bit longer and wider https://www.automobiledimension.com/car-comparison.php
I love the interior and how they went for a classic in dash screen rather than that bolt on tablet that's now in fashion.
Im not a fan of the front grille, but the rest of the exterior looks good enough.

punisher5112

Cordell wrote: »

According to this it's actually a bit longer and wider https://www.automobiledimension.com/car-comparison.php
I love the interior and how they went for a classic in dash screen rather than that bolt on tablet that's now in fashion.
Im not a fan of the front grille, but the rest of the exterior looks good enough.

Funny it looks smaller in the comparison photos....

Probably something inside is taking up a bit more room such as trim design etc.

nsnoefc1878

MarkN wrote: »

Qashqai sized - not sure I'd fully agree anymore. Feels a little roomier - the rear legroom in the back of the last model had more room than a Qashqai too I felt.

Not Qashqai priced however - the mid trim petrol is just shy of 40k albeit with an auto gearbox due to hybrid but you do get leather etc at that too.

Looks very well in the black in your video.
Interior looks very good. That'll sell like hot cakes.

declanflynn

Are they more expensive than the old model?

MarkN

declanflynn wrote: »

Are they more expensive than the old model?

Manual diesel similar but the petrol has gone up due to price increases, budget and the fact that all petrols are now an auto box.

nsnoefc1878

MarkN wrote: »

Manual diesel similar but the petrol has gone up due to price increases, budget and the fact that all petrols are now an auto box.

Did you say there was a hybrid one?

DaveyDave

Doesn't look too bad. Reminds me a bit of the RAV4 styling. I like the sharp lines and more boxy look on these things.

MarkN

nsnoefc1878 wrote: »

Did you say there was a hybrid one?

All petrol hybrid now

Bez Bing

I assume it’s main competition would be the Peugeot 3008 but at over 40K it’s getting into Q5 and XC 60 territory.

Toyotafanboi

A basic Q5 starts at like €55k? €40k wouldn't even get you into a Q3.

Bez Bing

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

A basic Q5 starts at like €55k? €40k wouldn't even get you into a Q3.

You’re right, I had mid 40,000 in my head for a Q5 SE.
Still though, it is edging into the premium space when you go over 40K

MarkN

The diesel starts at 33. Closest would be the 3008 alright, especially if you go GT-Line in the Peugeot etc

NIMAN

Bez Bing wrote: »

I assume it’s main competition would be the Peugeot 3008 but at over 40K it’s getting into Q5 and XC 60 territory.

Funny I think the styling is like the recent Peugeots.

RoscommonTom

shanec1928 wrote: »

Markn on here has a video up on it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebeDePHaNMI&t=410s

that fella does mighty videos,

younggalway

Is the diesel now in Band C based on the WLTP figures? (147g/km) Seems high at 23% no? Suppose thats to be expected across the board now

Cordell

The hybrid petrol is a 230 hp automatic, so who cares about diesel and its CO2 band?
I have the 2015 model diesel manual, but with this new one I won't consider it again, if ever going to get it.

MarkN

147 yes €270 per annum. Petrol is 133.

younggalway

I'd imagine anyone doing 30k kilometers a year would still be justified going for the diesel no? A family member is looking at going for a new Tucson/Rav4 etc type thing in the new year but she does big mileage and wants a diesel automatic. Its a pity Hyundai Ireland don't do the 2.0 Diesel model here that they do in the UK with 185ps. Wonder would they do it on special order?

I know the market is phasing out diesels but I would be concerned recommending a hybrid to her when she's doing a big mix of rural and N-road driving where I assume the hybrid system wouldn't be kicking in enough and she'll essentially end up with a 1.6l petrol jeep?

Bez Bing

I’m considering the new Tucson also so would be interested in hearing opinions on when the hybrid becomes a better option that the diesel?

nsnoefc1878

Bez Bing wrote: »

I’m considering the new Tucson also so would be interested in hearing opinions on when the hybrid becomes a better option that the diesel?

If you are doing mostly little short hops, max 20km each way approx, then I'd say get the hybrid. Anything above those and I'd say get the diesel.

Cordell

nsnoefc1878 wrote: »

If you are doing mostly little short hops, max 20km each way approx, then I'd say get the hybrid. Anything above those and I'd say get the diesel.

I don't think it's that simple with this model range. This may apply to petrol vs. diesel, where petrol is cheaper to buy but more expensive to run. This time the hybrid is more expensive to buy and only in some cases may be cheaper to run.

Also, all diesels in the offer are manuals, and hybrids are autos, so that's another choice you need to make.

AMKC

Bez Bing wrote: »

I assume it’s main competition would be the Peugeot 3008 but at over 40K it’s getting into Q5 and XC 60 territory.

40k would not even get into a Volvo XC40 never mind an XC60.

I think it looks great especially the interior. Looks really classy. The rear view is the one that will take time to get used to the most I'd say. The front grill is very American like I think but looks great.

AMKC

colm_mcm wrote: »

The problem with contemporary is that it’s only fresh for so long.

Look at the likes of the Renault Megane through the years. They were forever trying new looks, and there is no relationship between them bar the badge. VW have at least kept the lineage very clear, and this helps repeat sales.

Hats off to Hyundai though, it makes it’s rivals looks very plain. Clear influences from the likes of the VW Touareg and the Toyota RAV4

Let’s see what an oversupply of them to the likes of Gardai and rentals, and what the inevitable small wheels for emissions does to dampen the appeal.


Curious to see what the new Sportage will be like now. Any renderings I’ve seen seem to be more of a facelift.

Look at the likes of the Renault Megane through the years. They were forever trying new looks, and there is no relationship between them bar the badge.

I disagree. If you look at the saloon version from the Megane Classic to the Megane sports saloon, the Fluence and then the Megane Grand Coupe you can see the evolution of them.

Yes maybe for the hatch it changed more but then it keeps it fresh unlike say a VW Golf or a Porsche 911 both of which have changed feck all in the last 30 years.

jake frost

Just comparing the starting price between a Hyundai Tuscon (just under €40K) and a Kia Sportage (just over €30K). is the Tuscon really worth an extra €10K.. i haven't driven either of them so I dont know, it just seems the differential is quite high for similar type cars..

Bez Bing

Well the basic spec Tucson starts at €32,495

jake frost

Bez Bing wrote: »

Well the basic spec Tucson starts at €32,495

Sorry your right.. I must have been looking at a higher spec.. Yes they are similar pricing range..

bazz26

The Sportage is dated now as it has been around since 2016 and will be replaced with a new model(same platform and tech) as the new Tuscon in mid 2021. I wouldn't be buying a new current model Sportage unless it was seriously discounted.

Sami23

Bez Bing wrote: »

Well the basic spec Tucson starts at €32,495

Some up to date prices on the diesels as have been pricing around this week:

Comfort Plus - 34k
Executive - 37k
Executive Plus - 39.5k

Massive increase in price for the Executive of 3-4k over last 2 years

Sami23

MarkN wrote: »

Not Qashqai priced however - the mid trim petrol is just shy of 40k albeit with an auto gearbox due to hybrid but you do get leather etc at that too.

Any know the Qashquai price for similar spec to the Tucson diesel Executive @ 37k ?

bazz26

The Qashqai is being replaced with an all new model later this year. The current model is around 7 years and the tech is very dated now. You would want to be mad to buying a brand new old model now imo unless Nissan give it to you for next to nothing.

This is the new one:

Sami23

bazz26 wrote: »

The Qashqai is being replaced with an all new model later this year. The current model is around 7 years and the tech is very dated now. You would want to be mad to buying a brand new old model now imo unless Nissan give it to you for next to nothing.

This is the new one:

Agree with you on that was just wondering about price.
I know Hyundai are looking for nearly the same money for the last stock of the old Tucson as they are for the new model

pippip

Sami23 wrote: »

Some up to date prices on the diesels as have been pricing around this week:

Comfort Plus - 34k
Executive - 37k
Executive Plus - 39.5k

Massive increase in price for the Executive of 3-4k over last 2 years

About 1500 of that was the recent increase in VRT.

Bez Bing

Sami23 wrote: »

Agree with you on that was just wondering about price.
I know Hyundai are looking for nearly the same money for the last stock of the old Tucson as they are for the new model

I think there are very good deals to be done on the old model.
I wouldn’t entertain paying anything close to the price of the new model for it. Why would you? The new model is a complete step up.

Sami23

Bez Bing wrote: »

I think there are very good deals to be done on the old model.
I wouldn’t entertain paying anything close to the price of the new model for it. Why would you? The new model is a complete step up.

I can get a 202 demo model with low milage for about 4k less than the new model.
Would you think that's enough of a difference or will I get caught when trading in again in future due to older model I wonder

colm_mcm

I think you’d be better off getting the new model. Even if the old model was a 211 for €4K less.

Sami23

colm_mcm wrote: »

I think you’d be better off getting the new model. Even if the old model was a 211 for €4K less.

Jes 4 grand is a lot of money though.
Old model is a 202

colm_mcm

If you brought a 202 old model into them today and wanted a 211 they’d be looking for a lot more than €4K.

I would say you’ll recoup a lot more than that in resale as the 202 is already a year old technically and of course an older very high selling model, so that will affect resale negatively.

Bez Bing

I think you will lose a lot on the resale of an old model.
If you are planning to hold onto it for a long time , now might be a good time to get a high spec model with a decent discount.

I would push the dealer hard, you are in the power position.
They are going to be inundated with old model Tucson’s soon enough as the new model looks like a significant step up so many will want to trade up.