Stag shot in Tarbert, Co. Kerry

Slinky94

Rows Grower wrote: »

You don't have any real info Slinky.

Guess not. It's not any skin off my back like I said I seen the post and thought I'd shed some light on it since people were looking for more info. If I get anything else though I'll run it by you beforehand so you can decide if it's real...

dodderangler

I'm confused! Why is it a big deal that it was shot? Big sika stag shot!? Was it poached is that why.. ?
A good stag like but still fair game isn't it as long as it was shot by a deer licence holder with permission to the land it was shot on!?

gozunda

dodderangler wrote: »

I'm confused! Why is it a big deal that it was shot? Big sika stag shot!? Was it poached is that why.. ?
A good stag like but still fair game isn't it as long as it was shot by a deer licence holder with permission to the land it was shot on!?

For the same reasons that there was uproar when there was a cull in the phoenix Park. Cue public 'outrage'. And Its not clear that the shooter had permission - presuming they were licensed. For land owner who allows hunting who've had a share of chancers and unfortunately things like that can give everyone a bad name. Just some basic common sense required tbh.

dodderangler

gozunda wrote: »

For the same reasons that there was uproar when there was a cull in the phoenix Park. Cue public outrage. And Its not clear that the shooter had permission - presuming they were licensed. For land owner who allows hunting who've had a share of chancers and unfortunately things like that give everyone a bad name. But yeah if its the local tourist attraction or someone's pet - them a bit of cop on should generally prevail imo.

Basically like locals near my permission feeding a foxing taking pictures if this tame fox and then I pose a pic with it as it came into my land yeah??

gozunda

dodderangler wrote: »

Basically like locals near my permission feeding a foxing taking pictures if this tame fox and then I pose a pic with it as it came into my land yeah??

As a land owner No. Read it again. Especially the last bit ...

ganmo

To me this is the like the was some hunters leave stags to mature in order to get bigger antlers but then a neighbouring hunter takes it before the first guy.
A wild animal is nobody's property or pet

J.R.

dodderangler wrote: »

I'm confused! Why is it a big deal that it was shot? Big sika stag shot!?

There are not many wild deer in North Kerry where this happened.

Seeing a wild deer around there would be a very rare occurrence for the locals.

Feisar

ganmo wrote: »

To me this is the like the was some hunters leave stags to mature in order to get bigger antlers but then a neighbouring hunter takes it before the first guy.
A wild animal is nobody's property or pet

Isn't the idea that shooting a specimen stag removes him from the gene pool, you want him breeding and producing more lads with impressive antlers?

Grizzly 45

Thats subjective too.
Like everything in life, stags get older too, and once a certain age is reached they are past it, and won't or can't add any more to the gene pool due to age or not being able to hold their harem and ground from challenges by stronger younger stags. Depending on age,and it doesn't hurt to take out a resident mature dominant stag either,as his genes can be sometimes a bit glitchy too.

This fellah sounds like he was a tourist that decided to stay in the area and had more novel value rather than being part of a local herd.

tudderone

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8953135/Sacred-white-spirit-moose-killed-hunters-Canada-outrage-local-indigenous-population.html

Heavy handed

So the word is now that this guy has had he’s firearms lifted and been done for a few various things in relation to the event. All over a sika stag that looked more like a pricket a was left off by a few apes thinking one deer could populate an area.

Grizzly 45

Official verifiable word...Or " best mate, of a 2nd cousin who knows the family well thru a half brother!" word:D

Heavy handed

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Official verifiable word...Or " best mate, of a 2nd cousin who knows the family well thru a half brother!" word:D

From some of the members of he’s local gun club.

Grizzly 45

Heavy handed wrote: »

So the word is now that this guy has had he’s firearms lifted and been done for a few various things in relation to the event. All over a sika stag that looked more like a pricket a was left off by a few apes thinking one deer could populate an area.

So IOW a lot more going on there than is out in the public eye and ear?

Heavy handed

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

So IOW a lot more going on there than is out in the public eye and ear?

I would think so.

dodderangler

gozunda wrote: »

As a land owner No. Read it again. Especially the last bit ...

hi mate sorry for late reply. you said read last bit. I did and still cant wrap my head round the issue.
it entered farmland a week before it was shot. if the person who shot him had permission and a deer licence correct calibre etc then I don't see the issue.
from the pic it looks a standard 6 point stag. 4 5 year old.
sika aren't native here so no point making a celebrity out of one.
now a true Kerry red stag id be outraged myself. but not a sika. I see 8 or 12 each time I go out on my permission every time. more deer than foxes and rabbits up my way

J.R.

dodderangler wrote: »

I see 8 or 12 each time I go out on my permission every time.

That area of North Kerry does not have any large numbers of deer - no reds, sika or fallow. Deer are extremely rare in that area of the county.

To see a stag in a field would be a very rare sighting and locals there would stop their car to admire a deer if they saw one in a field along the roadside.

I think locals looked forward to getting a fleeting glimpse of it and many were annoyed when it was shot.

As one of them is quoted as saying - "it was their Fungi!"

J.R.

dodderangler wrote: »

. I did and still cant wrap my head round the issue.

As one of them is quoted as saying - "it was their Fungi!"

It was a very rare occurence to see one there.

Richard308

As with fungi, it’s a wild animal and not theirs.

sheesh

I understand that people are upset about a single deer it would be interesting to see one around if you are not used to it. I cannot explain how this is a story in a national news paper it is clearly an escapee from a deer farm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSApEAPJAOI

Heavy handed

Maybe the clowns that let that deer off a few years back will let another off to replace the culled one.

Rows Grower

sheesh wrote: »

I understand that people are upset about a single deer it would be interesting to see one around if you are not used to it. I cannot explain how this is a story in a national news paper it is clearly an escapee from a deer farm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSApEAPJAOI

The Kerryman is a local newspaper and there are no Sika deer farms.

feargale

Many years ago I dwelt in a small town in the Netherlands that had a deerpark. Nice especially for old folks and kids. Could the aggrieved farmer not have reported his problem to local wildlife rangers? Would a nearby town not be glad to esconce the deer in a similar enclosure?

Rows Grower

feargale wrote: »

Many years ago I dwelt in a small town in the Netherlands that had a deerpark. Nice especially for old folks and kids. Could the aggrieved farmer not have reported his problem to local wildlife rangers? Would a nearby town not be glad to esconce the deer in a similar enclosure?

They're wild animals.

Richard308

Wild deer while nice to look at, they are wild, they occasionally will attack humans during the rut, they cause traffic collisions often resulting in serious damage to vehicles, injury and death. They can transmit TB, carry ticks and transmit lymes disease through them. They damage fencing and eat grassing land. Sika are not a native specie and in my opinion shouldn’t be in Ireland full stop. They compete for food with the only native specie the Irish red deer. Why are people treating this like they’re an endangered specie. While not plentiful in North Kerry all three deer species are found there. So stop the crying over a solitary stag. He was not afraid of humans through contact. It’s like feeding bears in canada, it never ends well for the bear. If you see a deer do not try to domesticate, give it a fear of humans. It’s the only chance it has to survive.

Cody montana

Poor animal.

feelpablo

Cody montana wrote: »

Poor animal.

Who?

Cody montana

feelpablo wrote: »

Who?

The deer.

ThewhiteJesus

Majestic looking animal all the same

feelpablo

Cody montana wrote: »

The deer.

Can you expand on your thoughts there a little as to why you think that maybe?