USA Election - Who would you vote for? POLL

jaymla627

bogman_bass wrote: »

Republicans weren’t one bit worried about the national debt for the past 4 years but that tube will change in 14 days time!

As for the economy, 2019 figures (latest available figures I could find) GDP growth for CA (2.6%) and NY (2.4%) were ahead of the national average (2.1%)

But with Covid both will be be hit hard due to large urban populations and being the two centers on the entertainment and tourism industries which has been decimated worldwide

Nebraska naturaly isn’t going to be hit as hard but wasn’t flying it to start with.
Growing corn isn’t really affected by a pandemic

The below article sums up nicely why California will be a crack pot state in the not so distant future, running your highest paying tax base out of town with current and future planned tax legislation is economic suicide

https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2020/12/10/california-s-latest-effort-to-raise-taxes-on-the-w.html

Suckler

jaymla627 wrote: »

The full video was released today, the above video was edited from a hour long phone call, the finding votes mentioned by Trump pertained to votes cast for Biden by voters that had left the state of Georgia and relocated with evidence to back this up on the change of address database

Again, statements like this show how trump gets his blindly unwavering support.

I'm not sure where you've gotten your info from but it's patently and unquestionably wrong.

The statement of "crooked and desperate" you responded to was putting it very mildly.

Edit:

To clarify; Trump lost Georgia by 11,779 votes.
Trump wanted them to "find" (via numerous conspiracy theory accusations) 11,779 / 11,780 / 12,000 votes (depending on which of his ramblings
you want to select).

jaymla627

Suckler wrote: »

Again, statements like this show how trump gets his blindly unwavering support.

I'm not sure where you've gotten your info from but it's patently and unquestionably wrong.

The statement of "crooked and desperate" you responded to was putting it very mildly.

Your well under the spell of the mainstream media by the looks of it, I have no love for Trump the man is narcissist and has very questionable morals but what’s coming in after him is no better and probably worse, Kamila Harris is on record stating she believed the accusations of sexual assault against Biden https://nypost.com/2020/08/12/kamala-harris-believed-joe-bidens-accusers-until-she-didnt/
She also went out on a limb for Jacob Blake https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/28/kamala-harris-jacob-blake-police-officer-404230, a sociopath who was rapping his estranged wife when her mother called police to intervene he was shot in the back after repeated calls for him to stand down and about to jump into his SUV with three of his kids armed with a razor blade, all 3 cops where clear of any wrong doing as of today, I could keep rambling on but the above is just a snapchat of what’s ahead of America....

Suckler

jaymla627 wrote: »

Your well under the spell of the mainstream media by the looks of it,

Explain that one to me.

jaymla627 wrote: »

I have no love for Trump the man is narcissist and has very questionable morals but what’s coming in after him is no better and probably worse, Kamila Harris is on record stating she believed the accusations of sexual assault against Biden https://nypost.com/2020/08/12/kamala-harris-believed-joe-bidens-accusers-until-she-didnt/
She also went out on a limb for Jacob Blake https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/28/kamala-harris-jacob-blake-police-officer-404230, a sociopath who was rapping his estranged wife when her mother called police to intervene, all 3 cops where clear of any wrong doing as of today, I could keep rambling on but the above is just a snapchat of what’s ahead of America....

None of this relates to what I've said.

Just like a GOP playbook: President is proven to be telling lies / morally corrupt / fiscally irresponsible / sh1tting on soldiers / sh1tting on reporters that don't blindly swallow his bullsh1t etc. and the response is......But but but look at what the other side did / look at what the other side will do / look at who the others talk to and are friends with. :rolleyes:

Injuryprone

Jay has well and truly drank the trump kool-aid

jaymla627

Suckler wrote: »

Again, statements like this show how trump gets his blindly unwavering support.

I'm not sure where you've gotten your info from but it's patently and unquestionably wrong.

The statement of "crooked and desperate" you responded to was putting it very mildly.

Edit:

To clarify; Trump lost Georgia by 11,779 votes.
Trump wanted them to "find" (via numerous conspiracy theory accusations) 11,779 / 11,780 / 12,000 votes (depending on which of his ramblings
you want to select).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-transcript-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/2768e0cc-4ddd-11eb-83e3-322644d82356_story.html

Read down a few paragraphs the votes he wants to find pertain to reversing alleged spoiled and not countable ballots that Trump deemed illegal

jaymla627

Suckler wrote: »

Explain that one to me.



None of this relates to what I've said.

Just like a GOP playbook: President is proven to be telling lies / morally corrupt / fiscally irresponsible / sh1tting on soldiers / sh1tting on reporters that don't blindly swallow his bullsh1t etc. and the response is......But but but look at what the other side did / look at what the other side will do / look at who the others talk to and are friends with. :rolleyes:

Biden/Harris has the presidency that’s almost guaranteed bar Trump declares marshal law and gets his loyalists to implement it, I’m just highlighting that a sh**t show is about to start in America that’s going to have worldwide consequences, you have nearly half the population seeing Biden as illegitimate president weather rightly our wrongly and the other half who voted for him just to get the orange man out who has been nailed to the cross as having orchestrated all Americans current problems and then you have the extreme far left of Antifa and Blm who Harris/Biden strung along to get votes and used as political weapon with the riots and unrest who they now have cast aside and aren’t listening too, it’s a powder keg about to explode over their in the next few months

Suckler

jaymla627 wrote: »

Your well under the spell of the mainstream media by the looks of it,

Again. Explain this to me.

jaymla627 wrote: »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-transcript-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/2768e0cc-4ddd-11eb-83e3-322644d82356_story.html

Read down a few paragraphs the votes he wants to find pertain to reversing alleged spoiled and not countable ballots that Trump deemed illegal

Telling me to "read down a few paragraphs" tells us what exactly? You obviously haven't read/listened to it. You're cherry picking bits.

Trump "deemed" illegal....utterly meaningless.

jaymla627 wrote: »

Biden/Harris has the presidency that’s almost guaranteed bar Trump declares marshal law and gets his loyalists to implement it,

That's not going to happen. If he did go down that road, it still doesn't help him.

jaymla627 wrote: »

I’m just highlighting that a sh**t show is about to start in America that’s going to have worldwide consequences,

You're not highlighting anything. You're having a wild guess. The same statements were said in the run up to 2016, through 2017/2018 etc. about Trumps administration.
In any case, it's all still irrelevant to the "find me 11,779/11,780, 12,000 votes" part.

jaymla627 wrote: »

you have nearly half the population seeing Biden as illegitimate president weather rightly our wrongly

Wrong again. To insinuate that every Trump voter or even close to 50% of the population believes that the entire vote was rigged/fraudulent is wildly off.

jaymla627 wrote: »

and the other half who voted for him just to get the orange man out who has been nailed to the cross as having orchestrated all Americans current problems

Wrong again. It is beyond strange logic..... So there are no regular/dyed in the wool democratic voters? Not one of them listened to both candidates and decided on Biden?? Just voted for anyone but Trump.....all 80 million of them......sure.

jaymla627 wrote: »

and then you have the extreme far left of Antifa and Blm who Harris/Biden strung along to get votes and used as political weapon with the riots and unrest who they now have cast aside and aren’t listening too, it’s a powder keg about to explode over their in the next few months

Biden has openly condemned both Antifa and BLM violence. As far as "strung along" goes - how so? And if so, is it not a good thing they've cast them aside and are no longer listening to them?

But same tactic - "Extreme far left" etc deflection I highlighted above.

Bass Reeves

jaymla627 wrote: »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-transcript-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/2768e0cc-4ddd-11eb-83e3-322644d82356_story.html

Read down a few paragraphs the votes he wants to find pertain to reversing alleged spoiled and not countable ballots that Trump deemed illegal

Trump's problem was that the black vote came out. This was made easier by postal ballots. Taking Georgia as an example when Kemp (the present state Governer) was Sec of State he took about 700k of the voting register. These were mainly black voters.it was practised right across the state. Along with that they reduced the polling stations in black neighbourhoods which had the impact that on election days( mainly in November) black voters had to que for hours to vote.

This happened in the Spring for the Democratic primaries there was massive que's at Democratic polling stations and this transferred into a fear that with COVID that it would impact the election. With the dear if COVID more democratic voters opted for postal balloting and with the issues with black neighbourhoods polling stations activists encouraged black voters to register for postal ballots.

Georgia in particular had serious issues with the primaries and Rafenbrager a Republican had to allow postal balloting similar to some Democratic run states. The Republican issue is that for the last while due to there control at state level they have been gerrymandering election constituency's to help them maintain control at State, Senate and gain control of Congress. There is a huge reward for them with electoral votes decided by national censuses to disenfranchise parts of the population that will vote Democratic to allow them to win Senate and presidency's with 47-48 %of the national vote. This was one of the few times the total poll was counted due to no concession from either side it shone a huge light on the issues..

zetecescort

Some Trump protestors after gaining entry to Capitol Hill

Suckler

zetecescort wrote: »

Some Trump protestors after gaining entry to Capitol Hill

That's nothing. Wait until you see what Antifa / BLM / Kamala / Hillary Clinton will do when the Radical extreme left backed by Bernie Sanders get in to power.:rolleyes:

JohnnyKq

Suckler wrote: »

Trump wanted them to "find" (via numerous conspiracy theory accusations) 11,779 / 11,780 / 12,000 votes (depending on which of his ramblings
you want to select).

Why are Trumps ethical standards accepted when we replace MEPs for attending a Party?

tanko

JohnnyKq wrote: »

Why are Trumps ethical standards accepted when we replace MEPs for attending a Party?

Which MEP's did we replace for attending a party?

Lots of calls for Trumps arrest, some craic if he had to flee he country. Has anyone the A Teams number?

Suckler

jaymla627 wrote: »

it's pretty screwed up on social media and mainstream media the mocking and jeering of the allegations of voter fraud even though some really compelling evidence is starting to come out if you look at the right sources but not one of the mainstream outlets is reporting on it

How'd that work out?

CloughCasey1

He won't be happy until there is a civil war over him. ; )

Kaybaykwah

What a piece of unadulterated beefy ****e that Chump.

jaymla627

Suckler wrote: »

How'd that work out?

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01/06/us/washington-dc-protests

Its cumulated in the above

Kaybaykwah

Giuliani incited sedition by telling the crowds that "Now is the time for trial by combat".

Suckler

jaymla627 wrote: »

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01/06/us/washington-dc-protests

Its cumulated in the above

No - this bit

jaymla627 wrote: »

allegations of voter fraud even though some really compelling evidence is starting to come out if you look at the right sources

Bass Reeves

Suckler wrote: »

No - this bit

The problem is they are just allegations. There is absolutely no proof of wholesale vote fraud. You will always have issues with small scale voter issues where single votes act illegally. You have both Republican and Democrats voters doing it off there own batt. Trump decided that postal ballots equaled to voter fraud. Postal balloting was historically always there in the US but COVID encouraged a large amount of people to opt for this.

The casting of the Democratic party as socialist is totally incorrect. The US is a two part system as it is a single constituency electrol system which forces a two party only system. The democratic encompasses people who we consider maybe similar in idealogy to FF to members who are to the right of FG.

The Republican takes up from there to what are virtualneo Nazi. As there is virtually no state/federal support for the individual people have a mortal fear of taxation. It make system reform very hard. There is a huge section that it is said vote Republican holding there nose as it is on economic issues they are.only slightly in agreement with the GOP and have a mortal fear of what are called progressives in the Dems.

It is interesting that one thing that was stopping repeal of Obamacare was one part that stopped health insurers from loading/withdrawal of insurance when you got sick.

Bass Reeves

Ossoff takes second Georgia seat for for Democrats. Control of Senate passed to Democrats.

Suckler

Wasn't that nice of the policeman to help this 'lady' down the steps after her tiring day wrecking the shop..

https://twitter.com/i/status/1346944262148136960

Say my name

A woman who was shot in the Congress building has died.

Several police officers also received gunshot wounds inside the building.

Source - Al Jazeera.

patsy_mccabe

Thats it. I'm cancelling my membership to Trump International Doonbeg. :rolleyes:

_Brian

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1347334804052844550?s=20

My guess this speech is part of a dealers struck to save his ass from impeachment or Article 25 being enacted.

_Brian

_Brian wrote: »

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1347334804052844550?s=20

My guess this speech is part of a dealers struck to save his ass from impeachment or Article 25 being enacted.

I'd like to see what the fact checkers have to say about "immediately deployed", afaicr the DOD refused to deploy the National Guard and it was the Gov of Virginia that deployed their National Guard plus several hundred Staties.

jaymla627

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'd like to see what the fact checkers have to say about "immediately deployed", afaicr the DOD refused to deploy the National Guard and it was the Gov of Virginia that deployed their National Guard plus several hundred Staties.

Once Biden gets sworn in America will become a totalitarian state effectively, the far right republicans and maga supporters will either lie down and accept their fate our civil war breaks out

Dinzee Conlee

jaymla627 wrote: »

Once Biden gets sworn in America will become a totalitarian state effectively, the far right republicans and maga supporters will either lie down and accept their fate our civil war breaks out

Explain that one to me - the totalitarian state bit...

CloughCasey1

_Brian wrote: »

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1347334804052844550?s=20

My guess this speech is part of a dealers struck to save his ass from impeachment or Article 25 being enacted.

The last line wasn't on the autocue I'd say.