Targeting the elderly and vulnerable is a despicable thing to do

Eleven Benevolent Elephants

Who would do such a thing and how can they sleep at night knowing what they did?

Will the elderly lady get her money back?

Will the scumbags' assets be seized?
Will they fuck.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/brothers-pushed-woman-72-to-write-25-000-in-cheques-for-power-tools-1.4398877?mode=amp

biko

It takes a certain kind of honour-less person to intimidate old and defenceless people.

Thelonious Monk

Part of their remit. Really some kind of public warnings should issue about these kind of things, it seems to happen a lot in rural Ireland. Surely when people hear the accent and notice the mannerisms they know these people should be avoided? I mean my Dad is 70 but would still spot these f*ckers a mile away.

B.A._Baracus

O'Driscoll huh?

.... Da ya like dags?

Pkiernan

In the US theyd be charged with the crime of Elder Abuse and would have gotten 10 years plus.

Irelands just too far left to punish criminals.

Jequ0n

Come on...i’m not saying she deserved it but some people are really asking to be taken advantage of.
It’s too convenient to play the victim card when you realise that you have actually been incredibly stupid/ gullible

Eleven Benevolent Elephants

Jequ0n wrote: »

Come on...i’m not saying she deserved it but some people are really asking to be taken advantage of.
It’s too convenient to play the victim card when you realise that you have actually been incredibly stupid/ gullible

I hope your own mother never falls victim.

Jequ0n

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

I hope your own mother never falls victim.

Couldn’t care less

dennyire

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

Who would do such a thing and how can they sleep at night knowing what they did?

Will the elderly lady get her money back?

Will the scumbags' assets be seized?
Will they fuck.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/brothers-pushed-woman-72-to-write-25-000-in-cheques-for-power-tools-1.4398877?mode=amp

Terrible thing to happen to this lady but it seems at least she got her money back

dennyire

Jequ0n wrote: »

Couldn’t care less

That is some effin statement

Hangdogroad

CAB should hit these feckers and take them for everything they have.

Hercule Poirot

Jequ0n wrote: »

Come on...i’m not saying she deserved it but some people are really asking to be taken advantage of.
It’s too convenient to play the victim card when you realise that you have actually been incredibly stupid/ gullible

They followed her home and intimidated her into signing cheques for them - yes she shouldn't have given them her number but it's not like she was a complete idiot

And even if she was an idiot those ar5eholes had no right to do what they did and while it's unlikely I hope their time in prison is really unpleasant

biko

At least other old people are safe from these two during their stint in prison.
Prison for them isn't rehabilitation, it's simply to keep them from preying on other old people.

Spanish Eyes

Hangdogroad wrote: »

CAB should hit these feckers and take them for everything they have.

I think there have been quite a few CAB raids recently. Not sure if targeted at ethnic folk but there is a good chance they are. About bloody time too.

SnowyMay

Jequ0n wrote: »

Come on...i’m not saying she deserved it but some people are really asking to be taken advantage of.
It’s too convenient to play the victim card when you realise that you have actually been incredibly stupid/ gullible

Are you kidding? Do you reckon that she suddenly realised that she needed €25k worth of power tools or the like, and then had buyer’s remorse afterwards?

whisky_galore

Jequ0n wrote: »

Couldn’t care less

You're a real piece of work.

Jequ0n

Hercule Poirot wrote: »

They followed her home and intimidated her into signing cheques for them - yes she shouldn't have given them her number but it's not like she was a complete idiot

And even if she was an idiot those ar5eholes had no right to do what they did and while it's unlikely I hope their time in prison is really unpleasant

I didn’t say that she deserved it, I merely pointed out that she contributed to the situation by being incredibly gullible. I am sick of people blaming everyone for their misfortune when they should really question their own actions.

screamer

They call here all the time with various things for sale. Some are ok, some very aggressive and have to be told to Fvck off by the men, or they just won’t.

Spanish Eyes

A Ring doorbell or equivalent is a great investment. sod everyone knocking at my door that I don't know these days, they can feck right off.

Great for deliveries too.

So sorry for that woman, but she appears sound as a pound, The intimidation and bullying they can put these folk through is awful. And worse still if you live rurally, you'd never know when they or members of their cohort might come back. That is bloody awful really isn't it.

I wonder if all the goods supplied were stolen? If so, I hope the owners got them back.

Good result.

JustAThought

screamer wrote: »

They call here all the time with various things for sale. Some are ok, some very aggressive and have to be told to Fvck off by the men, or they just won’t.

I happen to walk by as one drove by an elderly woman weeding in her garden. He parked up, blocked her drive, and hasasled
and hassled her - gutters, then powerwashing, then landscaping, the gardening. She was
being polite and kept saying no but he just kept hassling her. Some
people were brought up not to tell people to F off and are too polite to or afraid to take people on. I sat down on the neighbours wall after she had finally given up and gone back into her house - but he stayed all the time pulled up outside in his van watching in and blocking her drive. Eventually felt I had to intervene. NO OLD person should have to go through this kind of intimidation or menaces for money. Australia had the rihht idea when they rounded up elder scammers into vans, took away all their tools profits and summarily deported them. We should have mandatory harsh sentencing for this kind of scum and their assets seized to compensate the victims and other victims of crime. One wonders what the f* the tossers in CAB most of
the time, apart from willy wagging from behind their desks. We seem to have almost nothing in return for their salaries and highly paid pensionable jobs - what the F are they doing all day every day that we have almost nothing to
show for their efforts. And why are criminals and their families still be casually allowed
to profit from crime. If they cannot demonstrate where they got the money to buy & run their cars impound them and get revenue to penalty tax their undeclared and untaxed income - what are these desk sloths up to if they cannot achieve the minimum?

As for criminal vermin - I’ve said
it all on other threads. Serious Ministerial and political negligence in letting this continue for decades . They found a way to tax our water and houses overnight. Why is there zero attention to
this?

ChikiChiki

Surprise, surprise our highly esteemed ethnic brethren. My own mother was intimidated into buying "Italian Leather" couches that the arms fell off 3 months later.

A small minority are decent in travelers.

Spanish Eyes

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Surprise, surprise our highly esteemed ethnic brethren. My own mother was intimidated into buying "Italian Leather" couches that the arms fell off 3 months later.

A small minority are decent in travelers.

Most of us know and acknowledge this, but the only ones we hear about are the criminal manipulative element. Disgraceful and they know their targets too.

billyhead

I was only selling tools like boss. ****ing scum of the earth.

Kivaro

Hangdogroad wrote: »

CAB should hit these feckers and take them for everything they have.

I'd be happy just to see their welfare payments stopped, but the "progressives" in Ireland would not allow it.
Saw the two O' Driscoll brothers on the news outside the court; both strapping men ..... and yet would bet that they are both on disability.

Foxhound38

I'm guessing it was all just a beautiful display of ethnic, indiginous nomadic culture we should all respect and accomodate. :rolleyes:

billyhead

Hercule Poirot wrote: »

They followed her home and intimidated her into signing cheques for them - yes she shouldn't have given them her number but it's not like she was a complete idiot

And even if she was an idiot those ar5eholes had no right to do what they did and while it's unlikely I hope their time in prison is really unpleasant

She probably felt she had no other option. When you have these big fat ****ers intimidating you and you refuse to pay them they could do anything.

This is it

I wouldn't be surprised if that is updated with "suspended" sentences such is the ridiculousness of our courts

Rodney Bathgate

Liamo57 wrote: »

They dont even use toilet paper, hand wipe and clean their hand on their trousers.

Poor “etiquette” there.

Darc19

And the silence from pavee point is deafening as usual.

When I heard "Rathkeale" it wasn't going to take a Sherlock Holmes to deduce it was a racially oppressed minority in our population. Plus ça change.

snickers

Was the stuff they sold her just a pile of broken ****e or was it decent stuff that they may try to buy or steal back worse still it was probably stolen so the little old lady was in receipt of stolen goods.

Foxhound38

Darc19 wrote: »

And the silence from pavee point is deafening as usual.

If they did make a statement it would probably be blaming this incident on the racist Irish State for not providing them with a designated area to sell stolen tools.

It's pretty much the argument they make whenever Sulky racing on motorways comes up.

Hellrazer

If it was my family the ****ers would be chopped up Saw style with all the tools they coerced her into buying.

2 years - they`ll be out in less than a year and back to robbing old people again.

Necro

Mod:

After review and a clean up I'm reopening this - with a specific warning. Keep on topic or you will be sanctioned - absolutely no generalisations are permitted.

Keep it civil. I've already had to hand out a number of cards for posts that were over the line.

Rodney Bathgate

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Poor “etiquette” there.

FFS

Eleven Benevolent Elephants

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

FFS

I don't get it.

BrianD3

My mother has been pestered by these sorts of "people calling to the door" for many years, they can detect that she has cognitive impairment and is very trusting.

I've had some interaction with them myself and pretend that I am stupid/naïve just to see what scams they'll try to pull. It is almost comical how every sentence that comes out of their mouths is a blatant lie or some attempt at manipulation. Even the relatively decent ones can't help themselves.

Of course I would never "tar" these callers as being from any particular ethnic group :rolleyes:

Often the services or (stolen) goods that they are offering aren't even good value, they are such greedy parasites that they'd try to sell stolen tools for more than what they would cost to buy new.

They've been driving around the country during both Covid lockdowns and over and back to GB and "not a bother" on them. Driving commercially taxed vehicles without any legitimate business, claiming social welfare as well. Waved on at Covid checkpoints with the legitimate vans and trucks and even the most obnoxious Gardai are no match for them.

Steve012

Necro wrote: »

Mod:

After review and a clean up I'm reopening this - with a specific warning. Keep on topic or you will be sanctioned - absolutely no generalisations are permitted.

Keep it civil. I've already had to hand out a number of cards for posts that were over the line.

Peoples emotions run high with this particular topic, my 70 odd year old Mam was targeted. You say generalizations (the general amount of crime per head per population is far far higher than any other group) 80% of men over 22 have criminal convictions, that's a generalization ...but a true one.

People have had enough.

Baggly

Mod

Issue with a card? Pm the mod. Don't derail the thread. Rodney is taking time off to consider this.

Atlantic Dawn

snickers wrote: »

Was the stuff they sold her just a pile of broken ****e or was it decent stuff that they may try to buy or steal back worse still it was probably stolen so the little old lady was in receipt of stolen goods.

All fake or burner brand junk worth a fraction of the retail price of the real deal.


Fake Honda generators are another gem they deal in.

Spanish Eyes

BrianD3 wrote: »

My mother has been pestered by these sorts of "people calling to the door" for many years, they can detect that she has cognitive impairment and is very trusting.

I've had some interaction with them myself and pretend that I am stupid/naïve just to see what scams they'll try to pull. It is almost comical how every sentence that comes out of their mouths is a blatant lie or some attempt at manipulation. Even the relatively decent ones can't help themselves.

Of course I would never "tar" these callers as being from any particular ethnic group :rolleyes:

Often the services or (stolen) goods that they are offering aren't even good value, they are such greedy parasites that they'd try to sell stolen tools for more than what they would cost to buy new.

They've been driving over the country during both Covid lockdowns and over and back to GB and "not a bother" on them. Driving commercially taxed vehicles without any legitimate business, claiming social welfare as well. Waved on at Covid checkpoints with the legitimate vans and trucks and even the most obnoxious Gardai are no match for them.

CAB is the only deterrent for recidivist criminals no matter what their ethnicity is. And from what I can see they are upping their game lately. Probably because Covid restrictions give them a bigger lens. I dunno.

Steve012

Baggly wrote: »

Mod

Issue with a card? Pm the mod. Don't derail the thread. Rodney is taking time off to consider this.

Not issued with a card just my post was deleted.

Baggly

Mod

Pm the mod.

gigantic09

I wonder did their sales team just get lazy and try to get this poor lady to buy all the stock. What a couple of dumb callous fools.

Hercule Poirot

gigantic09 wrote: »

I wonder did their sales team just get lazy and try to get this poor lady to buy all the stock. What a couple of dumb callous fools.

You make a valid point here, I'd say if they had scalped her a few hundred euro there wouldn't even be a sentence but the sheer scale of their greed has been their undoing

Kivaro

Foxhound38 wrote: »

If they did make a statement it would probably be blaming this incident on the racist Irish State for not providing them with a designated area to sell stolen tools.

But they are provided these areas all around the country ....... at the local markets and festivals.

Church on Tuesday

dennyire wrote: »

That is some effin statement

I think it's sad TBH.

Up Donegal

biko wrote: »

At least other old people are safe from these two during their stint in prison.
Prison for them isn't rehabilitation, it's simply to keep them from preying on other old people.

They'll probably be out in a few weeks for good behaviour inside. :mad:

Music Box

It's cultural activities mostly that these individuals are involved in. We need to respect this grouping of individuals. They're ethnically diverse really

Eleven Benevolent Elephants

Another scummer


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/woman-jailed-for-stealing-271-000-from-elderly-and-vulnerable-1.4402480?mode=amp

punisher5112

The face palm picture is quite fitting to be honest.....