Is Ireland the only country in the world that tolerates lawlessness on Halloween?

Fred Cryton

Dublin's welfare class out in force tonight with illegal fireworks and bonfires.



Are we the only country in the world that tolerates complete lawlessness on a night like this? And every other night it seems.



I get it, i get it. There's no father at home. Single mothers. Drugs. Alcohol. Seems like two thirds of Dubliners come from such a home but that's another story.



But no-where else in the world does it manifest like this where they just do whatever they want and get away with it. That's the point, society is letting them get away with it.

salmocab

Sees thread name, checks who created. Yep that checks out.

gmisk

Fred Cryton wrote: »

Dublin's welfare class out in force tonight with illegal fireworks and bonfires.



Are we the only country in the world that tolerates complete lawlessness on a night like this? And every other night it seems.



I get it, i get it. There's no father at home. Single mothers. Drugs. Alcohol. Seems like two thirds of Dubliners come from such a home but that's another story.



But no-where else in the world does it manifest like this where they just do whatever they want and get away with it. That's the point, society is letting them get away with it.

Have you ever been to a far away land known as England?

I spent one halloween in manchester.....never again

Man with broke phone

Watching Liverpool playing West Ham and the fireworks are going off outside the stadium the whole time.

Padre_Pio

Man with broke phone wrote: »

Watching Liverpool playing West Ham and the fireworks are going off outside the stadium the whole time.

Fireworks are legal in the UK

Overheal

The short answer is no; you may be just a little bit melodramatic with your outrage at some fireworks and bonfires. Maybe as an American I don’t associate fireworks with lawlessness but bonfires? Fires aren’t inherently lawless or violent and IME Irish bonfires aren’t you know, bat**** lawless affairs it’s just community members coming together to burn scrap wood and enjoy the craic peaceably.

One eyed Jack

Fred Cryton wrote: »

Dublin's welfare class out in force tonight with illegal fireworks and bonfires.

Are we the only country in the world that tolerates complete lawlessness on a night like this? And every other night it seems.

Yes Fred, yes, we’re the only country in the world that tolerates lawlessness every night of the week...

Odhinn

Fred Cryton wrote: »

Dublin's welfare class out in force tonight with illegal fireworks and bonfires.



Are we the only country in the world that tolerates complete lawlessness on a night like this? And every other night it seems.



I get it, i get it. There's no father at home. Single mothers. Drugs. Alcohol. Seems like two thirds of Dubliners come from such a home but that's another story.



But no-where else in the world does it manifest like this where they just do whatever they want and get away with it. That's the point, society is letting them get away with it.

Yep, cannibal gangs of disaffected youth terrorise us all.

People tend to treat it like a ‘free pass’ night. More power needs to be given to the cops to crack skulls and remind these cretins when they’re acting the bollocks.

ShayNanigan

Well, when you don't have a police... Bunch of eejits have been shooting each other with fireworks for hours in a park near where I live. Seems like they smuggled in a trainload of fireworks as they don't seem to run out of them. No use reporting them to the not-police as they wouldn't do a thing. Too busy pretending they're doing something. Have I seen something like it? Yes I have but usually the cops put a stop to it.

banie01

So basically in Ireland, the 31st of October is the combo of The Crow, The Purge and Gotham?

How does anyone survive? Where is Brandon Lee and Bruce Wayne?
Do we actually even deserve a hero?
Won't somebody please, please think of the children?

Have I hit the right histrionic note? Can I join the OP's club?
Is it called pearl clutches utd?

On a far more serious note, No OP.
Ireland isn't the only country with such issues, and it is far, far from the worst.

Galwayguy35

They are going off here all evening as well, was afraid they would frighten my cat but she is taking it all in her stride.

AlphaDelta1

Bonfires are just an excuse for people to act the bollox and usually attract societies scummers. It's absolutely pathetic that they are illegal yet are massively widespread throughout the country and Dublin in particular. They do huge damage to the environment also

beachhead

Fireworks going in my area for 2 hours now-non stop.Much more this year than ever b4.One session(all,sorry) is illegal but tolerated cuz a "respectable". community member pays 4 it.But,mostly scummers in certain parts of town doing it.

ShayNanigan

I'm used to fireworks on New Year's but never on Halloween and never as much as this year.

wpd

are they social welfare giving away free fireworks tonight?

Sardonicat

gmisk wrote: »

Have you ever been to a far away land known as England?

I spent one halloween in manchester.....never again

I spent a few in a city just across the Pennines and I used to be afraid to go out after dusk. It goes on for longer there, too, with Guy Fawkes night on Nov 5.

s1ippy

What sounded like a machine gun just going off outside our house there. The pets are cuddled up here with me, very startled by it.

If you're over seven year old and bangers appeal to you, a serious evaluation of your mental capacity should be undertaken to determine if you should be allowed to continue sharing space with the rest of us. The same effect could be got slamming doors annoyingly but people don't go around doing that.

Man Vs ManUre

The Purge nite in America is even worse. You can do anything you want.

.anon.

wpd wrote: »

are they social welfare giving away free fireworks tonight?

No, they're only open Monday to Friday. They were giving them out in Intreo offices around the country yesterday. My brother's friend's girlfriend's father works for Dublin Bus and apparently a Nigerian woman left an entire box of quarter sticks at a bus stop yesterday, claiming that she could just pop into the community welfare officer and get more anyway.

Jinglejangle69

Sure there's nothing else for the kids to do...

.anon.

s1ippy wrote: »

The same effect could be got slamming doors annoyingly but people don't go around doing that.

You haven't met my neighbours.

Day Lewin

Its been so drab, no pubs, no parties, no visiting, not much trick-or-treating except for the smallies.

I honestly think people sort of collectively decided to celebrate with a blast of pyrotechnics, brightens up the place.

Calm down, everyone.

mloc123

gmisk wrote: »

Have you ever been to a far away land known as England?

I spent one halloween in manchester.....never again

Spent a Halloween in New Orleans once... I think about 30 people were shot that night (per news reports), it was one of the scariest places I have been to walk down the street.

Sardonicat

Sardonicat wrote: »

I spent a few in a city just across the Pennines and I used to be afraid to go out after dusk. It goes on for longer there, too, with Guy Fawkes night on Nov 5.

Spent my childhood in a city across the penines & I loved loved loved bonfire night!

Day Lewin

Day Lewin wrote: »

Its been so drab, no pubs, no parties, no visiting, not much trick-or-treating except for the smallies.

I honestly think people sort of collectively decided to celebrate with a blast of pyrotechnics, brightens up the place.

Calm down, everyone.

Yeah setting things like buildings on fire is great.

the purple tin

mloc123 wrote: »

Spent a Halloween in New Orleans once... I think about 30 people were shot that night (per news reports), it was one of the scariest places I have been to walk down the street.

It was very bad in the 80s and 90s, especially in Detroit. Huge amount of arson used to happen over Devil's Night and Halloween.

Fred Cryton

Fred Cryton wrote: »

Dublin's welfare class out in force tonight with illegal fireworks and bonfires.



Are we the only country in the world that tolerates complete lawlessness on a night like this? And every other night it seems.



I get it, i get it. There's no father at home. Single mothers. Drugs. Alcohol. Seems like two thirds of Dubliners come from such a home but that's another story.



But no-where else in the world does it manifest like this where they just do whatever they want and get away with it. That's the point, society is letting them get away with it.

Plenty of the landowner farmer class out here with fireworks and bonfires tonight.
Terrible that society lets them away with it.

whisky_galore

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

People tend to treat it like a ‘free pass’ night.

That and St Patrick's Night, New Years Eve, prob Stephens' Night too.
Usually underage knackbags who can't be touched by law or even named.

.anon.

Day Lewin wrote: »

Its been so drab, no pubs, no parties, no visiting, not much trick-or-treating except for the smallies.

I honestly think people sort of collectively decided to celebrate with a blast of pyrotechnics, brightens up the place.

Calm down, everyone.

Largely peaceful too, according to the fire brigade. Some miserable bores on here.

https://twitter.com/DubFireBrigade/status/1322668038697721861

Sardonicat

bubblypop wrote: »

Spent my childhood in a city across the penines & I loved loved loved bonfire night!

Bonfire night is magical when you're a kid and you go to the the organised bonfires to see the fireworks. When you're an adult living in a rough area of a rough city and coming home from work when gangs of teen boys are setting off bangers in the middle of the road, lobbing them at each other and the occasional passers by with a menacing atmosphere increasing nightly its quite an intimidating experience for a lone early 20s female.

dd973

gmisk wrote: »

Have you ever been to a far away land known as England?

I spent one halloween in manchester.....never again

Used to live in Dublin, now live in Manchester.

Mancunians are nicer people, in leaps and bounds.

JJayoo

**** weather = tame night

Atlantic Dawn

Why do we not allow fireworks to be sold legally and take in taxes from them when most EU countries legally trade them?

jill_valentine

the purple tin wrote: »

It was very bad in the 80s and 90s, especially in Detroit. Huge amount of arson used to happen over Devil's Night and Halloween.

Someone mentiones The Crow above - the fact it's set in in Detroit during a load of arsons on Devil's Night into Halloween is actually a plot point.

Atlantic Dawn

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Why do we not allow fireworks to be sold legally and take in taxes from them when most EU countries legally trade them?

Blame the IRA

Day Lewin

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Yeah setting things like buildings on fire is great.

You're right, there's barely a building left standing in Dublin this morning.

Great black heaps of smouldering ruins, everywhere.

It's a good thing they can't buy firelighters or matches any other day of the year, eh?

Day Lewin

Day Lewin wrote: »

You're right, there's barely a building left standing in Dublin this morning.

Great black heaps of smouldering ruins, everywhere.

It's a good thing they can't buy firelighters or matches any other day of the year, eh?

One is too many. People are slipping into that American attitude that anything goes on Halloween so it’s only going to get worse until offenders are dealt with.

osarusan

What a f**king pointless thread.

Timberrrrrrrr

gmisk wrote: »

Have you ever been to a far away land known as England?

I spent one halloween in manchester.....never again

"Mischeif" night in parts of Liverpool can be like a war zone.

sweet_trip

Good morning. I just want you to know I had a wonderful night launching a couple hundred euro worth of fireworks around my bonfire.
There was multiple houses in the area with fireworks too. Every little village had them going off and even out in the back arse of nowhere there was others setting them off near us.

Had a great night. None of us are "welfare class"

Go off and ****e with your dramatic "welfare class" snobbery and lawlessness.

Fireworks should be legal. Feel sorry for the people who genuinely cower in their houses and never have an ounce of fun because you're afraid of a minor law being broken.
some of you's wouldn't cross the road without a lolipop man out of fear of breaking the law.

Stihl waters

You must live a very sheltered miserable life if you think Ireland is lawless, your thread is stupid and you're a moron op

chosen1

I don't know why councils can't get a few organised local bonfires in different areas with a small fireworks display. Know it's not possible this year due to covid but it couldn't be that hard to organise and it's done in England safely for bonfire night there for years.

Like it or not, bonfires are an Irish tradition on Halloween and it would be much better to have it done properly and safely rather than leaving it to kids to burn potentially dangerous ones themselves. In some areas you get scrotes destroying football pitches and other local amenities and they are a magnet for antisocial behaviour. Time to take control back from them.

Sultan of Bling

sweet_trip wrote:

Fireworks should be legal. Feel sorry for the people who genuinely cower in their houses and never have an ounce of fun because you're afraid of a minor law being broken. some of you's wouldn't cross the road without a lolipop man out of fear of breaking the law.

I don't think most people have a problem with fireworks on Halloween.

The problem is for example in my area, we've had fireworks since feckin July.

cian68

s1ippy wrote: »

If you're over seven year old and bangers appeal to you, a serious evaluation of your mental capacity should be undertaken to determine if you should be allowed to continue sharing space with the rest of us.

Same could be said for all fireworks. I'm glad children enjoy them but after the first couple times you see them they're fairly dull.

Atlantic Dawn

bubblypop wrote: »

Blame the IRA

They mostly used fertilizer for bombs.

whisky_galore

osarusan wrote: »

What a f**king pointless thread.

And yet, you contributed this gem.

nullzero

Overheal wrote: »

The short answer is no; you may be just a little bit melodramatic with your outrage at some fireworks and bonfires. Maybe as an American I don’t associate fireworks with lawlessness but bonfires? Fires aren’t inherently lawless or violent and IME Irish bonfires aren’t you know, bat**** lawless affairs it’s just community members coming together to burn scrap wood and enjoy the craic peaceably.

Community members coming together to burn scrap wood and enjoy the craic?

Does you experience include any of the lunatic asylums alluded to in the OP?

Having grown up in a part of Dublin where Halloween meant the entire area turned into a lawless mess I have the perspective to understand that things aren't as bad now as they were back then, but in some areas people still lose the run of themselves and completely run amok. Peace and craic are the last things on the agenda.

nullzero

.anon. wrote: »

Largely peaceful too, according to the fire brigade. Some miserable bores on here.

https://twitter.com/DubFireBrigade/status/1322668038697721861

Pretty much the exception to the rule. Most years aren't anything like that, but I'm sure you knew that before you posted this.

TomTomTim

nullzero wrote: »

Community members coming together to burn scrap wood and enjoy the craic?

Does you experience include any of the lunatic asylums alluded to in the OP?

Having grown up in a part of Dublin where Halloween meant the entire area turned into a lawless mess I have the perspective to understand that things aren't as bad now as they were back then, but in some areas people still lose the run of themselves and completely run amok. Peace and craic are the last things on the agenda.

As a little **** of a young lad, Halloween always meant acting the bollocks. It was always a night to get up to some mischief. Nothing too bad of course, but we certainly didn't look at it as a night of unity and harmony.

Eric Cartman

We’re definitely not the only country , but it is sad. Its always the bad areas where the welfare class run wild and sadly, it almost always leads to pets being harmed with cats trapped in stolen cars set alight, having fireworks taped to them or dog being put on bonfires

https://www.buzz.ie/news/cat-left-dead-after-disgusting-halloween-act-204211