Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

happyoutscan

happyoutscan wrote: »

I'm gonna guess that anyone who isn't Kate deserves it.

Nope, she's been trying a long time
Effort

Marine Layer

Marine Layer wrote: »

Nope, she's been trying a long time
Effort

a long time inability to connect with voters has been demonstrated also.

Loafing Oaf

Marine Layer wrote: »

The DBS seat is probably Ivana Baciks now and she deserves it in my opinion career wise

I would have thought the Greens were best placed, given they should be picking up transfers from both government and opposition

seligehgit

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

I would have thought the Greens were best placed, given they should be picking up transfers from both government and opposition

Who's likely to pick up the Green nomination?

Surely Hazel Chu's recent shenanigans will count against her irrespective of how well she polled in the local elections.

It appears she's got many backers within the party.

The deputy leader Catherine Martin and her faction within the party,not forgetting her husband.

Can't imagine Eamon Ryan will be her biggest advocate.

Massive schism within the party.

Very hard constituency to call.

I'd have imagined Kate O Connell would have been strongly favoured to win the by election,far less certainty around a James Geoghegan candidacy.

Leo is risking the seat as he just doesn't like this KOC.

Loafing Oaf

glasso wrote: »

Leo is risking the seat as he just doesn't like this KOC.

Looks that way, would prefer the seat go to another party than see 'that woman' win it. Guess a Green victory could be a bit of a face-saver...

Marcusm

glasso wrote: »

Leo is risking the seat as he just doesn't like this KOC.

And working with Murph to organise the nomination for young Geoghegan who jumped ship with Lucinda Creighton (KO’C’s predecessor) to form Renua before running back to FG with his tails between his legs when it all blew up on them. I wonder is it his years or prior loyal service to FG which got him back or his establishment credentials - after all not many people can claim to be the child of two Supreme Court justices and the grandchild of two others. It’s not what one would naturally have seen as Varadkar’s approach to politics. He is the creative disruptor rather than establishment after all.

skimpydoo

Marcusm wrote: »

And working with Murph to organise the nomination for young Geoghegan who jumped ship with Lucinda Creighton (KO’C’s predecessor) to form Renua before running back to FG with his tails between his legs when it all blew up on them. I wonder is it his years or prior loyal service to FG which got him back or his establishment credentials - after all not many people can claim to be the child of two Supreme Court justices and the grandchild of two others. It’s not what one would naturally have seen as Varadkar’s approach to politics. He is the creative disruptor rather than establishment after all.

One of his grand fathers was a FF TD.

Marcusm

skimpydoo wrote: »

One of his grand fathers was a FF TD.

And the other one an FG TD.

Marcusm

Marcusm wrote: »

And working with Murph to organise the nomination for young Geoghegan who jumped ship with Lucinda Creighton (KO’C’s predecessor) to form Renua before running back to FG with his tails between his legs when it all blew up on them. I wonder is it his years or prior loyal service to FG which got him back or his establishment credentials - after all not many people can claim to be the child of two Supreme Court justices and the grandchild of two others. It’s not what one would naturally have seen as Varadkar’s approach to politics. He is the creative disruptor rather than establishment after all.

or tbh, could be at least partly if not fairly easily substantially (aside from Leo's obvious aversion to this particular member) as simple as Lucinda C's intimation that the local FG party members in DBS have come to the rational conclusion that KOC is a pain in the hole?

https://extra.ie/2021/05/09/news/irish-news/gardai-have-found-no-evidence-varadkar-should-be-charged-after-leak-investigation

FrancieBrady

Marine Layer wrote: »

https://extra.ie/2021/05/09/news/irish-news/gardai-have-found-no-evidence-varadkar-should-be-charged-after-leak-investigation

‘There is insufficient evidence to support a charge and gardai will potentially recommend no prosecution, though they may also simply outline the facts and leave it for the DPP to decide.’

Not out of the woods yet so.

Marine Layer

Marine Layer wrote: »

https://extra.ie/2021/05/09/news/irish-news/gardai-have-found-no-evidence-varadkar-should-be-charged-after-leak-investigation

Well, that’s a shocker! Never expected that!

Since when do Gardai give official statements on matters they've referred to the DPP!

Bubbaclaus

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Since when do Gardai give official statements on matters they've referred to the DPP!

Can you link to the official statement? I haven't seen it.

McMurphy

Deleted User wrote: »

Well, that’s a shocker! Never expected that!

You said she was an unreliable source anyway Maryanne, so undoubtedly you'll not be believing what she writes....

Deleted User wrote: »

Another Twitter dump from an unreliable source.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Not out of the woods yet so.

Exactly, it's going to be a binary outcome no matter what, and that Garda source is saying he might be prosecuted, but then again he might not. It's up to the DPP.

FrancieBrady

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Not out of the woods yet so.

You may move into the Eoghan Harris thread for kicks soon when riggamortis sets into this story
Oh wait ...already the top poster there:D

FrancieBrady

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Can you link to the official statement? I haven't seen it.

Have Garda sources always been right?

No, they certainly haven't, so we are no further on from the last article quoting a Garda source.

Bubbaclaus

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Have Garda sources always been right?

No, they certainly haven't, so we are no further on from the last article quoting a Garda source.

Not sure what your comment means, I was asking for the official Garda statement the other poster mentioned had been issued.

Bubbaclaus

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Not sure what your comment means, I was asking for the official Garda statement the other poster mentioned had been issued.

There has been an official paddy cosgrave statement

https://twitter.com/bloodyshinners/status/1391520144191598592?s=20

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Not out of the woods yet so.

So there is a chance?

FrancieBrady

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Not sure what your comment means, I was asking for the official Garda statement the other poster mentioned had been issued.

I think the poster was being sarcastic as there are those here treating the 'source' as an official statement.

Poor auld Paddy and his online rabble of pirate flags have lost so much time and emotional energy on this story.

What a waste of time. Anger really is an emotion that consumes people. They say meditation is a good tool for handling it. You’d never get women getting this angry and indeed deluded about a story.

JeffKenna

Marine Layer wrote: »

You may move into the Eoghan Harris thread for kicks soon when riggamortis sets into this story
Oh wait ...already the top poster there:D

Thats an awful post.

Pintman Paddy Losty

Deleted User wrote: »

Poor auld Paddy and his online rabble of pirate flags have lost so much time and emotional energy on this story.

What a waste of time. Anger really is an emotion that consumes people. They say meditation is a good tool for handling it. You’d never get women getting this angry and indeed deluded about a story.

Nail on the head Dr. Phil. Couldn't have put it better myself.


There will be an awful lot of anger when this gets dropped!

Pintman Paddy Losty

Marine Layer wrote: »

There has been an official paddy cosgrave statement

https://twitter.com/bloodyshinners/status/1391520144191598592?s=20

The smile on Varadkar in that picture is great.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Poor auld Paddy and his online rabble of pirate flags have lost so much time and emotional energy on this story.

What a waste of time. Anger really is an emotion that consumes people. They say meditation is a good tool for handling it. You’d never get women getting this angry and indeed deluded about a story.

I'd say the ring leaders of this story get off on it
Their followers looking to their masters for more
Thats a reflection on them

Most are already populating social media threads about Eoghan Harris's trolling as methodone to replace the drug that was this made up crime
And good luck to them,I say

FrancieBrady

It's one in a now long line of controversies this coalition has embroiled itself in.

If you got genuinely angry at them all you'd be in the padded cell.

Varadkar may very well avoid a prison sentence for what he confessed to, but he will never be able to wipe the slate clean, nor hide under it.

Meanwhile we await the DPP decision, and it hasn't gone away.

RandomName2

FrancieBrady wrote: »

It's one in a now long line of controversies this [organization] has embroiled itself in.

If you got genuinely angry at them all you'd be in the padded cell.

[insert name here] may very well avoid a prison sentence for what he confessed to, but he will never be able to wipe the slate clean, nor hide under it.

[...] and it hasn't gone away [you know].

*Slow blinking*

seamus

"avoid a prison sentence". That's a fun use of words.

I avoided a prison sentence after burning the toast this morning. I know I didn't actually commit any crimes, but technically it is true that I avoided a prison sentence.